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2016 Postmortem

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts) Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:40 PM Oct 2016

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Media Reaction?

PBS seems to be leaning towards a slight Kaine win, especially towards the end. What are the others saying?

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Media Reaction? (Original Post) Doctor Jack Oct 2016 OP

Mathews - Pence Agschmid Oct 2016 #1

He always does that. BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #4

Yes he does. Agschmid Oct 2016 #8

Didnt he say trump won last week? Doctor Jack Oct 2016 #5

No. Matthews was very clear that Hillary won big last week. writes3000 Oct 2016 #15

Well, it is Mathews. GP6971 Oct 2016 #9

No need at all. Agschmid Oct 2016 #10

He couldn't blurt it out fast enough ooky Oct 2016 #21

Tweety said Pence won Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #2

I think too - Arte Johnson Laugh In asiliveandbreathe Oct 2016 #3

NBC is leaning towards Kaine. The takeaway? Pence completely unable to defend Donald. n/t Avalux Oct 2016 #6

Bloomberg says Pence. AirmensMom Oct 2016 #7

so all the lies he told don't count as deductions? KewlKat Oct 2016 #14

I guess not. AirmensMom Oct 2016 #20

I wonder if there's a gender split. Men prefer the faux commander vibe ecstatic Oct 2016 #11

Kaine won on substance and honesty, Pence won on style but dishonest and failed to defend Trump nt wishstar Oct 2016 #12

Carville basically just said that both played to their base BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #13

steve schmidt on msnbc says kaine was rude, interrupted all the time.......blah blah blah KewlKat Oct 2016 #16

But... he also said Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #19

But I thought the alpha males liked belligerence, rudeness, boldness, etc.? Mamajami Oct 2016 #23

Chuck Todd says Pence did well for Pence in 2020 LSK Oct 2016 #17

CNN Focus Group of independent voters said Kaine won Cakes488 Oct 2016 #18

ABC pretty much said Kaine did what he needed to do by forcing Pence to try to defend Trump's Quixote1818 Oct 2016 #22

We watched MSNBC after. As ALWAYS, the GOP is the default party in their minds. Hekate Oct 2016 #24

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)

1. Mathews - Pence

Reply to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:41 PM

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BumRushDaShow

(129,304 posts)

4. He always does that.

Reply to Agschmid (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:41 PM

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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)

8. Yes he does.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:42 PM

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Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)

5. Didnt he say trump won last week?

Reply to Agschmid (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:41 PM

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writes3000

(4,734 posts)

15. No. Matthews was very clear that Hillary won big last week.

Reply to Doctor Jack (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:46 PM

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GP6971

(31,199 posts)

9. Well, it is Mathews.

Reply to Agschmid (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:42 PM

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No need to say more

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)

10. No need at all.

Reply to GP6971 (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:42 PM

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ooky

(8,926 posts)

21. He couldn't blurt it out fast enough

Reply to Agschmid (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:07 PM

Oct 2016

and I couldn't change the channel to CNN's coverage fast enough.

Johnny2X2X

(19,095 posts)

2. Tweety said Pence won

Reply to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:41 PM

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Hmm

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)

3. I think too - Arte Johnson Laugh In

Reply to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:41 PM

Oct 2016

Pence reminds me of 'I'm

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Old+Man+On+Laugh+in+Arte+Johnson+As&&view=detail&mid=0269EE4DC199DE2C10FF0269EE4DC199DE2C10FF&FORM=VRDGAR

Avalux

(35,015 posts)

6. NBC is leaning towards Kaine. The takeaway? Pence completely unable to defend Donald. n/t

Reply to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:41 PM

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AirmensMom

(14,644 posts)

7. Bloomberg says Pence.

Reply to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:41 PM

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On style and form.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)

14. so all the lies he told don't count as deductions?

Reply to AirmensMom (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:45 PM

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he has great style and form and he spews lies? Not a winner to me

AirmensMom

(14,644 posts)

20. I guess not.

Reply to KewlKat (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:51 PM

Oct 2016

I thought Kaide did a better job. Pence gave me the creeps. His style was like that of a smarmy tv evangelist.

ecstatic

(32,726 posts)

11. I wonder if there's a gender split. Men prefer the faux commander vibe

Reply to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:43 PM

Oct 2016

And women prefer sincerity.

wishstar

(5,271 posts)

12. Kaine won on substance and honesty, Pence won on style but dishonest and failed to defend Trump nt

Reply to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:44 PM

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BumRushDaShow

(129,304 posts)

13. Carville basically just said that both played to their base

Reply to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:44 PM

Oct 2016

and I agree.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)

16. steve schmidt on msnbc says kaine was rude, interrupted all the time.......blah blah blah

Reply to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:46 PM

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Blue Idaho

(5,052 posts)

19. But... he also said

Reply to KewlKat (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:49 PM

Oct 2016

Pence spent his time trying to deny that Trump said what Trump said - so the news shows will likely show a Pence denial followed by a tape of Trump saying what Pence just denied.

Mamajami

(257 posts)

23. But I thought the alpha males liked belligerence, rudeness, boldness, etc.?

Reply to Blue Idaho (Reply #19)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:12 PM

Oct 2016

Then Kaine may change a few of their minds. Pence must appear to be a wuss to them?

LSK

(36,846 posts)

17. Chuck Todd says Pence did well for Pence in 2020

Reply to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:46 PM

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Cakes488

(874 posts)

18. CNN Focus Group of independent voters said Kaine won

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Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:47 PM

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Quixote1818

(28,955 posts)

22. ABC pretty much said Kaine did what he needed to do by forcing Pence to try to defend Trump's

Reply to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:09 PM

Oct 2016

insanity. Pretty much everyone was on the same page that Trump didn't gain at all after this.

Hekate

(90,769 posts)

24. We watched MSNBC after. As ALWAYS, the GOP is the default party in their minds.

Reply to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:38 PM

Oct 2016

Every damned thing is analyzed in reference to how it affects the outcome for the GOP candidate. I figured this out about 8 years ago -- that no matter who is in office, the MSM is going to refer back to the GOP.

SMH.

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