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2016 Postmortem

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts) Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:26 PM Oct 2016

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Frank Luntz focus group results: pretty brutal

Who won tonight's debate?
• Mike Pence: 21
• Tim Kaine: 4
• Tie/Neither: 3

Luntz is a GOP pollster but he had Hillary winning last week.

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Frank Luntz focus group results: pretty brutal (Original Post) democrattotheend Oct 2016 OP

And who is the focused group comprised of? Cakes488 Oct 2016 #1

Im sure he got a talking to about that focus group last time LSK Oct 2016 #2

Exactly underpants Oct 2016 #3

O for fucks sake Cosmocat Oct 2016 #4

who listens to anything Luntz produces? bigtree Oct 2016 #5

Racing to post bad news....AGAIN!!! Rarely post good news. You're so consistent! writes3000 Oct 2016 #6

I don't think that really matters. avebury Oct 2016 #7

He's an asshole, but Pence came across as "strong" Nevernose Oct 2016 #8

Ummm the debate isn't over... Agschmid Oct 2016 #9

They're done before the debate is done? Renew Deal Oct 2016 #10

Pence is a good actor cilla4progress Oct 2016 #11

This just puts more pressure on Trump at the next debate texasleo Oct 2016 #12

A Luntz focus group is always designed to benefit the Republicans. StevieM Oct 2016 #13

Pence was running for 2020. nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #14

because Americans are superficial. Pence looks like a movie ecstatic Oct 2016 #15

After the first debate madamesilverspurs Oct 2016 #16

Style over substance. Pence was good. George Eliot Oct 2016 #17

Cakes488

(874 posts)

1. And who is the focused group comprised of?

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Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:27 PM

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LSK

(36,846 posts)

2. Im sure he got a talking to about that focus group last time

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Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:27 PM

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underpants

(182,861 posts)

3. Exactly

Reply to LSK (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:28 PM

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Cosmocat

(14,567 posts)

4. O for fucks sake

Reply to democrattotheend (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:28 PM

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That is just absurd ...

bigtree

(86,005 posts)

5. who listens to anything Luntz produces?

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Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:28 PM

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writes3000

(4,734 posts)

6. Racing to post bad news....AGAIN!!! Rarely post good news. You're so consistent!

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Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:29 PM

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avebury

(10,952 posts)

7. I don't think that really matters.

Reply to democrattotheend (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:31 PM

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When it comes down to it, it will be Clinton vs Trump that matters and Trump is so self-destructive.

Kaine did a good job with keeping Trump's self-destructiveness front and center. Pence is refusing to acknowldege just how destructive Trump as been.

Pence - Trump is not a polished politician. Hell he wants to be President so not being a polished politician is not acceptable.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)

8. He's an asshole, but Pence came across as "strong"

Reply to democrattotheend (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:31 PM

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Completely full of shit, but it was MANLY bullshit, damnit.

Luntz is also full of shit, by the way.

We'll have to see what the polls are for undecideds and millenials, although this debate will be decided by the press, because the undecided and millenials aren't gong to watch. My millennial daughter, for instance, doesn't see the pointn watching the Vice Presidents debate. Sanders is who she cares about (like most a majority of millenials), she's definitely voting for Clinton, and fuck Donald Trump.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)

9. Ummm the debate isn't over...

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Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:31 PM

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Renew Deal

(81,869 posts)

10. They're done before the debate is done?

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Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:31 PM

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cilla4progress

(24,760 posts)

11. Pence is a good actor

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Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:32 PM

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and empty suit

texasleo

(11,298 posts)

12. This just puts more pressure on Trump at the next debate

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Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:33 PM

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StevieM

(10,500 posts)

13. A Luntz focus group is always designed to benefit the Republicans.

Reply to democrattotheend (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:34 PM

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The last debate was just so one-sided that it didn't matter.

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

14. Pence was running for 2020. nt

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Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:36 PM

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ecstatic

(32,727 posts)

15. because Americans are superficial. Pence looks like a movie

Reply to democrattotheend (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:37 PM

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hero / villain / military guy and people like that. Unfortunately. He's a right wing asshole.

madamesilverspurs

(15,806 posts)

16. After the first debate

Reply to democrattotheend (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:39 PM

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Luntz took greater care to assemble his group. The "focus" can be directed by who is seated.

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George Eliot

(701 posts)

17. Style over substance. Pence was good.

Reply to democrattotheend (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:39 PM

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A lot of Americans go for style. Remember Reagan? Remember Bush Jr?

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