We've got two pretty good candidates in Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine, REC if you agree.

[BootinUp]

She is a policy wonk that committed her life to helpiing families and children. She can talk intelligently on economics, national security, health care, campaign finance reform, entitlements, civil liberites/rights and equality, combatting terrorism, debt-free college, criminal justice reform, and so much more: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/ She also has oodles of experience in public service!

He is also policy wonk that committed his life progressive causes. He is an optimist that believes in government working to solve real issues. He did missionary work before he went into politics. He is a man of strong faith as is the lady at the top of the ticket.

There is no comparison on resume, knowledge, experience and accomplishments between the D party ticket and the R party ticket. We have the superior ticket on all of those measures.

[longship]

1. I think they are a very good team.

Just like Barack and Joe, who complement each other so damned well. That can make for a productive relationship. We've seen an instance of this with the extraordinary breaking the LBGT issue by Biden and the obvious immediate agreement by Obama. Nobody can say whether that was planned, but when two people are in synch, it really doesn't matter. The result was amazing.

I think the same about Hillary and Tim. They will likely be working in synch on day one. And like Biden, I would expect Kaine to be pulling his load. They will have to. The house will be against them, and -- shudder -- just maybe the senate (if not in January, maybe in two years).

Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine are going to be a great team. And BTW, both Biden and Kaine rolled 18 on charisma, so Obama and Clinton also have that going for them. (Although I don't think there will be articles in the Onion about Tim Kaine washing his TransAm in the White House driveway.)

So, yup! We've got a great team.

[Coyotl]

40. The way things are going with Trump/Pence, we should be able to turn the House blue.

All we need to do is turn out our voters, and the Republicans can delete themselves from relevancy.

[center]



"Since 1972, the Catholic vote has been a reliable bellwether for the results of Election Day."

[longship]

41. I doubt that Dems take the House.

Gerrymandering. And furthermore, unless we do something about state legislatures (also Gerrymandered) and governorships the GOP may have a lock on the US House of Representatives for another decade starting in 2020. We are in big trouble on this. If Democrats continue to stay home for off year elections, there is little hope there.

That is the reality of the issue.

The only solution is to convince Democrats to vote in every election, and for every office, which right now they do not do.

We'll likely get the US Senate, although that is looking too damned close, but no US House this time.

[Coyotl]

42. Look at the margins in the number of districts we need to flip. Do a district-by-district analysis.

A wave election can overcome the margins. Some of the gerrymandering left Republicans susceptible to a wave election. Some have very different demographics today, as does the entire electorate. Just turning out young voters is a huge difference while a lot of old conservative voters, to put it politely, have retired from voting.

All we need to do is turn out the voters, they are there. I'm still hoping this becomes Bernie's new campaign, taking the House.

[longship]

44. I understand that, but it is still a rather large long shot.

And if we don't do something about the governorships (not Gerrymandered) and the state legislatures (heavily Gerrymandered) our problems are not going to go away.

Those are the indisputable facts.

We need to make rather large changes in how we approach this. Focussing nearly solely on the POTUS election does absolutely nothing to effect those changes.

We need to focus more on local offices or we will remain behind. That's an indisputable fact as well.

[Coyotl]

47. Actually, "the indisputable facts" that matter are the votes to be cast, not yesterday's odds

or a false perception that there is no focus on local elections. The indisputable fact I will concede is that Dem voters stayed home for the mid-terms. But, we have more voters, that is indisputable fact too, and the split trends in our favor. Also, the next election that dtermiones who draws district lines after the census is a Presidential election, one where our voters will be turning out for the incumbent Hillary Clinton.

[longship]

48. Here are your facts, my friend.

State legislatures:
31 Republican
11 Democratic
8 split

Governorships:
31 Republican
18 Democratic
1 independant

I will stand by my post.

[Wounded Bear]

2. K & R ......for visibility..nt

[retrowire]

3. Both are of strong faith?

I like Jimmy Carter's brand of Christianity and I know that everybody is a different kind of Christian so meh!

Also, I still don't know enough about Mr. Kaine to Rec! He came outta nowhere for me.

[spooky3]

16. No, not everyone is a Christian, and "strong faith"

Is not a qualification for office.

[retrowire]

20. huh, I did just say that in a broad statement didnt i?

My bad. No, I know that not everybody is a Christian. Lol

[amuse bouche]

18. I would prefer zero religion in politics.

[retrowire]

19. ditto nt

[Tikki]

21. Same here....

Tikki

[sarae]

54. me too!

[AllyCat]

38. A person's faith has ZERO draw for me.

Religion has no place in politics

[Sunny05]

24. Well, to answer retrowire,

and of course I am not pushing anything on any DUer and am not claiming to read the minds or hearts of these two candidates:

Hillary Rodham Clinton is Methodist, regularly involved all her life. During her teen years, a Methodist minister was influential, took her and other youth at church on trip to see & hear MLK.

Tim Kaine is Catholic, also regularly involved all his life. He took a year off from law school to go on mission trip to Honduras. That is where he became so fluent in Spanish, by the way.

Well, that's a very brief summary.

[Sunny05]

25. Quick notes to add ...

Barack Obama used to be with United Church of Christ (different from Church of Christ, UCC more like Prebyterian USA and Methodist in social, other views). But he & family have been, I think, going to African Methodist Episcopal church in D.C.

joe Biden is Catholic.

[radical noodle]

29. Neither is the type to push religion in policy

Their religions have led them to do good for others. Hillary in advocating for children, families, health care and education while Tim Kaine did missionary work and learned to be fluent in Spanish, then came back to the US to help minorities in housing discrimination cases. They are both religious left which means doing good and keeping it out of government regs.

[retrowire]

46. mmmm hopefully they arent. nt

[radical noodle]

49. Kaine is Catholic and doesn't personally

believe abortion is right, but he still believes in a woman's right to choose. They're both more like Joe Biden with faith.

[retrowire]

50. well thats just like Jimmy Carter too! :) nt

[radical noodle]

51. Exactly

Didn't know if you were old enough to remember Jimmy Carter in office.

[retrowire]

52. I'm not!

I just read alot! 28 yrs old here.

[radical noodle]

55. Good for you!

They'll govern like Jimmy Carter, without the peanuts and Billy Beer.

[retrowire]

58. But I like peanuts...

That's IT, IM VOTING JOHNSON.


...THATS A JOKE.

[radical noodle]

59. LOL!

Maybe they'll do peanut M&Ms!

[retrowire]

61. but im vegan.

MILKKKKK

lol I just can't be happy in this world can I?

THAT IS ALSO A JOKE lol

[radical noodle]

62. Organic peanuts just for you!

[retrowire]

64. retrowire: will vote 4 organic peanuts nt

[Coyotl]

43. New poll: Catholic voters favor Clinton for president

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12217202

"Since 1972, the Catholic vote has been a reliable bellwether for the results of Election Day." .....................

[BlancheSplanchnik]

63. I read a bit on Kaine's political background and I liked it a LOT.

If that's any help.

Everybody's a different kind of Christian....wellllllll, not everyone's a Christian! I'm a Buddhist, but I think those of us who aren't genetically conservative, brainwashed, psychopathic or other cluster D personality disorder share the same core values: Honesty, concern for others and the planet...

Separation of church and state, yeah that was a good idea. We need to get back to that.

[The Wielding Truth]

4. Yes, two very good leaders. Decent, intelligent, courageous and kind.

[4lbs]

5. I agree. However, there are certain parts that need to feel "inspired" to vote.

They think that Hillary is too 'boring' and doesn't give them the warm and fuzzy.

Well, shit.

I don't need a President to make me warm and fuzzy. I'm not a 6 year old kid. I'm an adult.

I want the person who is the smartest mother****** in the room.

Hillary is that person for this election.

[FailureToCommunicate]

8. Re read the title of the OP and then tell us again how it's really the "they" people that are

the ones lacking enthusiasm.

[Bill USA]

14. right. her "problem" is, at least with some people, that she talks to voters like they are adults.

Apparently some people want more than that.....con men are happy to supply them the promises they long for -- in order to feel inspired. Thus, people like david brooks say 'she's just not a very good campaigner' (read: con-man, bullshitter).

[calimary]

6. Recommended. Highly!

[ffr]

7. Register or re-register to vote IF YOU AGREE

Go to IwillVote.com to see if you are registered to vote or to register/re-register. It's easy. You'll want to be part of the blue wave!

GO HILLARY CLINTON!!!

[meow2u3]

23. Registration confirmed

I'm riding this blue wave for Madame President Hillary Rodham Clinton!!!!

[ffr]

31. .

We need a thread sticky for all DU'ers who've early voted.

[Maru Kitteh]

9. I don't agree.

They're not "pretty good." They're effing awesome.

[radical noodle]

30. THIS ^^^^^^

[JTFrog]

39. Thank you. nt

[sarae]

57. YES! And they're running against effing horrific.

It shouldn't even be a contest.

[BlueMTexpat]

66. THIS !!!!!

[Third Doctor]

10. Rec!

[fun n serious]

11. k&R nt

[mcar]

12. I disagree

I think they are two excellent candidates!

[oasis]

13. I'll bump them up from "pretty good" to EXCELLENT.

[ailsagirl]

15. What mcar and oasis said ^^^

Excellent

[AllyCat]

17. Glad to hear the candidate I supported in the primaries

Is on the winning side for Clinton-Kaine

[meow2u3]

22. K&R

[thesquanderer]

26. Some may disagree that they are merely "pretty good." (n/t)

[GP6971]

27. K & R !

[chillfactor]

28. I am so happy....

that Hillary and Tim are OUR candidates and not running on the other side! K & R.

[BlueMTexpat]

32. Absolutely!

[Hortensis]

33. Two GOOD candidates. It was very responsible of us

to have offered them to the national electorate in an era when so many are acting destructively.

[UCmeNdc]

34. K&R

[jaxind]

35. To Retrowire

When I read your comment, Retrowire, it seemed like you were happy that they were both Christian, but you were questioning the denomination of each. But, why do either of them have to even be Christian? Why can't they be of another religion, or even atheist?

[treestar]

36. Yeah!

[argyl]

37. Yep, we do.

[Cosmocat]

45. Kick

nm

[sarae]

53. K&R!

[Adrahil]

56. Rec bait post. But I rec'd it, so it worked. NT

[Koinos]

60. Two superb candidates!

I can't wait to see what Kaine's intellect, logic, and common sense do to Pence.

[rocktivity]

65. I hope Kaine can handle Pence -- a bad peformance could set us back.

After Obama's faltering first debate with Romney, Biden knew what he had to do to Paul Ryan -- and boy, did he do it!


rocktivity.com

[Qutzupalotl]

69. Kaine was on the debate team at a Jesuit school.

Jesuits are known for their debating ability and scholarship. My wife was a theology grad student and has said you do NOT want to get into a debate with a Jesuit. Just agree with them and back away...

[NNadir]

67. I'm very pleased with our ticket. I have never been comfortable with the vitriol directed at Ms...

...Clinton since she arrived on the national stage.

She's everything sexist morons hate, extremely intelligent, tough, principled, caring and...this is important...compromising when compromise is wise.

I am very pleased with her relationship with the current President, which shows a lot of class, on both sides. Their relationship started out badly, but they have both benefited - and our country has benefited - with their ability to bury the hatchet and become good friends and working partners.

[AlbertCat]

68. Do people who don't rec get banned?

Jess askin'

[NNadir]

70. I'm very pleased with our ticket. I have never been comfortable with the vitriol directed at Ms...

...Clinton since she arrived on the national stage.

She's everything sexist morons hate, extremely intelligent, tough, principled, caring and...this is important...compromising when compromise is wise.

I am very pleased with her relationship with the current President, which shows a lot of class, on both sides. Their relationship started out badly, but they have both benefited - and our country has benefited - with their ability to bury the hatchet and become good friends and working partners.