I believe Hillary unfavorables are a result of lot of Trump supporters' racism

[louis c]

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Let me see if I can explain this correctly.

During the primaries, a lot of Trump supporters would give their reasons for voting for him as "he uses his own money to run. He's beholding to nobody." or "He speaks from the heart. He doesn't use a teleprompter". or "He's not a politician". Those were, at the time, all plausible, although naïve reasons. Hillary's negatives were high, but less than 50%, generally. In reality, the only reason anyone can support Donald Trump is that they're bigots and racists. That's his only attraction.

Let me digress into the modern history of political bigotry. The bigots used to belong to us. Up until 1960, the black vote split about 50% to 50% in national elections. The racists belonged to us, the Democrats. These people, mostly in the South, were so bigoted, they couldn't vote for a Republican for 5 generations, because of Abraham Lincoln. Then came the civil rights and voting rights acts in 1964 and 1965. The bigots then became Wallace Democrats, and supported the racist, bigoted campaign of George Wallace in 1968 and 1972. Nixon captured a great deal of the racist vote in 1972 in what was known as the Southern Strategy. Now, these are not the exact, same people, but the same ideology, as those same racists and bigots gravitated to Reagan in 1980 and especially 1984. They became a major part of the Republican coalition, as the Democratic party became the party of tolerance and inclusion. African-Americans, Gays, Latinos and Asians were the cornerstone of the modern Democratic party and the bigots were now all in the Republican Party. The mainstream Republicans didn't want to acknowledge it. They could take the substantial bigoted vote for granted, since the party of tolerance and inclusion now rested with the Democrats and the bigots had no place else to go.

As a result, bigots like to vote in a racist and bigoted manner, but they don't want to be known by their neighbors and friends as racists or bigots. They know that Trump is a bigot, or at least makes racist and bigoted statements. So, when confronted by others as Trump supporters, they use the default position, "I just can't stand Hillary." Come on, you hate Hillary that much that you could vote for a racist? The fact is that you ARE voting for Trump because both he and you are racists, and your feigned dislike for Hillary is just a smoke screen and a poor excuse for a bigot to vote for a bigot.

[louis c]

1. Kick

[Wounded Bear]

2. You left out the part about the 30 years of hate from the RW....

on talk radio and TV against the Clintons, and the many attacks from Repub Congresses along the way.

Other than that, then yeah, you're right.

[Stellar]

3. That's the real truth!

As Obama said at the Democratic convention that they have blamed her for things that she did and things that she didn't do for decades!

[trof]

4. You should understand that Wallace was a populist initially.

In 1958 Wallace was running against John Patterson for governor of Alabama.
(I was 16, and my mother and I worked for Patterson's campaign.)

"In May 1946, he won his first election as a member to the Alabama House of Representatives. At the time, he was considered a moderate on racial issues. As a delegate to the 1948 Democratic National Convention, he did not join the Dixiecrat walkout at the convention, despite his opposition to U.S. President Harry S. Truman's proposed civil rights program. Wallace considered it an infringement on states' rights.

In 1952, he became the Circuit Judge of the Third Judicial Circuit in Alabama. Here he became known as "the fighting little judge," a nod to his past boxing association.[12] He gained a reputation for fairness regardless of the race of the plaintiff. It was common practice at the time for judges in the area to refer to black lawyers by their first names, while their white colleagues were addressed formally as "Mister"; Black lawyer J.L. Chestnut later said that "Judge George Wallace was the most liberal judge that I had ever practiced law in front of. He was the first judge in Alabama to call me 'Mister' in a courtroom."

In 1958, Wallace ran in the Democratic primary for governor.
Wallace's main opponent was state attorney general John Malcolm Patterson, who ran with the support of the Ku Klux Klan, an organization Wallace had spoken against. Wallace was endorsed by the NAACP. Wallace lost the nomination by over 34,400 votes.

After the election, aide Seymore Trammell recalled Wallace saying, "Seymore, you know why I lost that governor's race? ... I was outniggered by John Patterson. And I'll tell you here and now, I will never be outniggered again."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace

I am by no means a Wallace apologist.
He rode that racist political pony as hard as he could for as long as he could.
In his final years he had a 'come to Jesus' moment that may or may not have been genuine.

trof

[radius777]

6. the southern Dems were right wing populists

like Trump (and like the alt-right) whose antipathy towards capitalism revolve around the idea that business/trade/commerce is a force for racial/moral/cultural impurity.

iow, populism doesn't preclude racism or nationalism, and often is aligned with it.

Wallace may've been more of a moderate at first, but he has to be judged ultimately on the hate movement he unleashed.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

5. Racism and sexism in both the Democratic and Republican Party

[Madam45for2923]

7. So making America great again means taking back control especially after the 1st black President

[Lil Missy]

8. A LOT of it is due to 25 years of manufactured scandals. n/t

[jimw81]

9. No it was from sanders, Devine and Weaver