With all their money

[mothra1orbit]

wouldn't you think the Trumps would've had Ivanka's buck teeth fixed?

That was my bad self.
What I really wanted to say is that I don't think the new Trump ad featuring his gorgeous daughter is going to win him any votes and may in fact turn off a lot of women who might otherwise be considering voting for him. I'm a regular old middle-class housewife, and I think she's absolutely beautiful, but:

She talks in this snooty upper-class accent

Every time she says "my father" or "I'm an entrepreneur" you don't think of someone who has succeeded despite the obstacles women face in the business world, you think of a spoiled rich girl, apple of her father's eye, who is set for life simply because of the accident of her birth--and her children and their children will be set for life if the estate tax is abolished

She is beautiful in a cool, graceful way (after giving birth to three children!) that most of us can only dream of attaining, and so we (I) hate her in spite of myself.

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. She has his face. They all do, I don't find it beautiful at all.

They look like the Zanti Misfits too me.

[Madam45for2923]

4. They all have that little button anus-like mouths and his unfortunate chin!

All the boys seem to have that future hair loss in stock.

[Cracklin Charlie]

2. I don't hate her at all.

I kind of feel sorry for her. What a horrible father she has!

I saw her dumb ad yesterday, and try as she might, she didn't convince me that her father gave the least crap about making women's life better, hers included.

She's kind of pretty, in a plastic-y kind of way, but I don't get any sense of warmth or emotion from anything she says.

[blm]

3. I think she's another of his victims. Her face is certainly surgically altered and she had breast

implants. She would be conscious of what her father considers to be perfection and that included larger breasts.

Compare photos of her face at 12 - she has had a chin implant, nose job, and a brow lift. None of these procedures, including the breast implants are horrible, on their own, but, done in the context of her father's VERY PUBLIC preference for beauty and large breasts ( a flat chested woman cannot be a 10), I find it sad and disturbing.

[mothra1orbit]

5. You're better at this than I am

I don't know why I hadn't considered that she was surgically altered, but of course she would be. If she were not so privileged, I would have compassion for her situation, but given that she has virtually every opportunity in the world open to her, I will continue to wallow in my un-sisterly dislike and slightly softened envy.

I think that the fact that, as you point out, she has been crafted to be her father's ideal of feminine beauty, and he clearly thinks she's smart, would make her what Trump et al. would believe to be the woman every woman would want to be and thus the perfect spokeswoman for his "woman" programs. I think this is going to backfire big time.

[blm]

6. I agree with you and your distaste for what she is doing to support her father's monstrous ego.

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[Maru Kitteh]

8. Before and after

She's thoroughly altered herself and now fits that razor, placticine, cartoon boobie look her daddy seems to favor so much.

[mothra1orbit]

9. Wow

They even gave her that narrowed cat-eye thing that Melania has.

I had no idea.

Thanks so much for posting this.

[blm]

10. Maru - can you make this an OP? This was a teen undergoing extensive surgery to please

her sadistic father's preferred vision for beauty…..including breast implants. Sick, sick, sick.

[demmiblue]

7. .

[MineralMan]

11. What? Please leave the comments about appearance

to the Trump camp. Your opinion of how Trump's daughter "looks" is completely irrelevant to anything about this election, in my opinion.

[mothra1orbit]

12. Generally, I'd agree with you

being a fairly unattractive person myself, but the use of his daughter in a campaign ad seems to me to make her looks fair game. Do you chide every poster who refers to Donald as a cheeto?

[MineralMan]

14. I think you're wrong. Looks are not the issue. Not any time.

When you comment about the appearance of a woman you dislike, you're commenting on all women. We don't do that here on DU, as a rule. But, it's your choice, I suppose.

[mothra1orbit]

16. We'll obviously have to agree to disagree, but

I'm curious as to why you don't feel calling Donald Trump a Cheeto is just as objectionable--or perhaps you do?

And I do agree that commenting on looks, male or female btw, is unbecoming to a Democrat, but then I think calling the Trump sons Uday and Qusay while hilarious is also offensive. Not to mention the Children of the Corn comments.

I defend my comments about Ivanka only because I believe that if she were not beautiful she would not be used as she is, as a sort of surrogate Mrs. Donald Trump, in this campaign. She has made major speeches, policy speeches, on behalf of her father, speeches I would think the candidate himself should be making. She has been put before us as integral to the campaign, and it is my belief that her looks have a lot to do with that.

[Iggo]

22. "And I do agree that commenting on looks, male or female btw, is unbecoming to a Democrat..."

I agree completely.

Completely.

[Iggo]

21. Yup.

[remaineruk]

13. On the basis that Ivanka has decided to support a man

That calls women pigs I think her altering her looks surgically should be very much within the conversation

She has options. She can choose not to be a public face and surrogate wife for her father. She can choose not to change her looks. She can choose not to support a sexist racist pig.

She is not beyond reproach until she condemns her father's words and actions. And she never will so she is merely a trump surrogate and is actively supporting racism, sexism, nationalism and screwing over people poorer than herself. She has chosen as an adult to support her father's disgusting behaviour. As a woman she should be ashamed. She won't be.

[MineralMan]

15. Criticizing one woman's appearance is criticizing women in general.

It's really not something that is acceptable on DU. I realize that you are new to this website, but criticism based on looks is misplaced here.

Criticize views, opinions, and behavior, but leave people's appearance alone, please.

[mothra1orbit]

18. Please explain to me

whether this rule applies to men's looks as well. TIA.

[remaineruk]

23. I am afraid that commenting on surgical enhancements

Is not critising a womans looks. Critising her morales is not critising her looks. Critism her reasons for changing her apperance should be allowed

Taking a stance like this is not constructive to feminism. Allowing a standardised look of women that conforms to mens views is not healthy. Nor is not calling women out on that or shutting down those that do

Critising one women's looks insults all women. Really. I suggest you go on all the trump looks posts.

Women are not precious creatures that require protection. Ivanka is now a politician. Who has been created to look and act as her father's perfect woman. The whole idea of that is repugnant

[mothra1orbit]

17. Yes, all this too. n/t

[hamsterjill]

19. I want to know if these privileged little brats will acknowledge that they have a mother!

I've never heard any one of the three older Trumpettes say "my mother" or "our parents".

[Iggo]

20. That's a clown question, bro.

[remaineruk]

24. It may have been framed badly but it is a good point

Trump has created in Ivanka his perfect ideal woman
Why is that not acceptable for discussion