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According to a senior U.S. defense official, the FBI has uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of potentially inappropriate emails between Allen and Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old Tampa woman whose close friendship with Petraeus ultimately led to his downfall. Allen, a Marine, succeeded Petraeus as the top allied commander in Afghanistan in July 2011.
The FBI first notified the Pentagon of its investigation into Allens communications with Kelley on Sunday evening, according to the senior defense official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details of the ongoing case.
It also further calls into question the personal behavior of two of the U.S. militarys highest-ranking and most respected figures, who apparently ignored concerns about the highly sensitive nature of their jobs as they embraced personal relationships with younger women who were not their wives.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/scandal-probe-ensnares-commander-of-us-nato-troops-in-afghanistan/2012/11/13/7955fea4-2d54-11e2-a99d-5c4203af7b7a_story.html?tid=sm_twitter_washingtonpost
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)I wonder if we'll ever get the full story on is going on?
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Curiouser and curiouser.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)I betcha Kelley will end up regretting complaining to the F.B.I. about the emails that Broadwell sent her.
If Kelley had not complained then no one (including herself) would have been exposed.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)That agent went rogue and when the FBI ended up shutting him out, he told Cantor.
Big time old boys bullshit in both the FBI and the CIA.
Both operations are going to be fucked up over this shit.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Justice
(7,188 posts)zazen
(2,978 posts)Does it ever end?
Please, male married DU-ers. Tell me someone doesn't value young flesh more than 30 plus years of marriage to a loyal, faithful partner. I'm so TIRED of ageism against women.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)I have to wonder how much sensitive information these personal relationships with younger women may have exposed?
If anything like Patraeus, we've got a bit of problem.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Imagining the look on your wife's face after finding out is enough to kill the urge.
zazen
(2,978 posts)Ms. Geek Tragedy can be happy in that.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)feel virile, young and powerful anymore. What's the use of devoting your life to the attainment of power as a General of whatever if you can't get the added perk of getting pretty girls too?
onecent
(6,096 posts)mean but it seems alot of these "older" men are thinking with the wrong organ.
I hate to see stuff like this..it has ruined MANY a career..oh, and I don't blame only the men...Oh no...these women find themselves a powerful man with deep pockets and they turn into ragiing sex maniacs...
My biggest problem with all this IS I AM SICK OF HEARING ABOUT EACH ONE FOR DAYS AND DAYS AND DAYS. They never let up on Clinton, Tiger's life was over - his golf game certainly went limp....
And FOX is doing their best to find Obama at fault....Jesus.
Lasher
(27,636 posts)Don't think General Allen's implication has been mentioned there yet.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)msongs
(67,441 posts)Ilsa
(61,698 posts)follow the same rules governing their Privates."
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Congress will be to busy sorting this out to get anything else done
The history books will note that America was undone by sex in high places .......
courseofhistory
(801 posts)should be completely ashamed of themselves for violating the trust of their wives, their president and the American people, possibly putting lives and national security in grave danger. This is more than a scandal!
I am now wondering if any breaches of national security could have led to the killings in Benghazi with leaks by these women about there being a CIA operation going on there! Just amazing! *shaking head*
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Is if inappropriate emails between generals is discovered.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)or Republican operative.
Hate to say it but I think more people will pay attention to the sexual side of this more than the security side.
Sex sells in the good ole USofA but corrupt, sleazy vulture capitalists who refuse to release 10 years of tax returns and running for POTUS, not so much.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)@AdamSerwer: The US national security state is fighting a counterinsurgency in its pants. https://twitter.com/AdamSerwer
mzteaze
(448 posts)the sordid sex tales of the Military and Spies. All from a "simple catfight."
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Andrew Kaczynski ?@BuzzFeedAndrew
So
.the Senate Armed Services Committee was set to hold a hearing to confirm John Allen Thursday as Obama's pick for European Commander.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Criminy ..... I don't have but a couple hundred documents extant in my whole life ..... OK, maybe a couple thousand if you include my work communications and texts and chat room discussions and Facebook interjections and DU ejaculations (it is so wrong to use that word - I apologize) ....
WTF is this guy doing with his life ? ..... 30,000 ? .....
EDIT: Oh ... I guess I have over 15,000 DU ejaculations right there .... LOL .... OK, maybe 25,000 TOTAL for my whole life ....
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)to believe they are Gods. I am furious that Obama and Congress was kept out of the loop
for so long. The Military obviously doesn't think they have to answer to anyone and that is
dangerous.
manchu
(645 posts)The question that needs to be asked is who is Jill Kelley ( yes I know shes a socialite) and why does she consistently have access to the some of the highest people in the military? I would not be surprised to find out Petraeus slept with her as well . There was another photo of her with a vice admiral at a party she was throwing, and I think she and her husband need to be thoroughly investigated. If these two are involved with a foreign intel, this would be a SERIOUS problem.
unc70
(6,119 posts)Ilsa
(61,698 posts)I don't know if these men did this for the first time after becoming generals, or if they've been doing it all along.
My hope is that their need for sex and intimacy has been born out of long deployments and previous separation from their wives. We know from the last ten years that military couples of all ranks have suffered from long term separation, thanks to these two Bush wars.
My hope is also that they were careful in selecting their partners who were not in any way under their control or command.
My hope is that these couples can work through their problems, but given public pressure and embarrassment, I wonder if the wives will chose to keep them. I don't think I'd be able to work through the public humiliation.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)There's so much screwing going on in the service you could shake a stick at.I seen it all and that was back between 1978 to 1982 when I was in basic training the company commander was screwing a young female trainee and got relieved of duty