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ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:47 PM Sep 2016

The beauty of the Flowers invite

The vile, evil beauty, I should say.

Whether she comes or not, whether trump raises a related point or not, he's already won the news cycle. Meat Depressed, CBS, even Washington weekly mentioned it. Cable news has it. And all three of my Sunday papers report it. Instead of reporting more lies, more Russian ties, more tax evasion, and abuse of charity funds, they talk about Gennifer. Talk about a swift, but deadly bit of media sabotage by him.

THAT is the evil media manipulator that is the con man, Donald Trump.

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The beauty of the Flowers invite (Original Post) ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2016 OP
Perhaps, but don't forget that people who don't know Hortensis Sep 2016 #1
Exactly. Cracklin Charlie Sep 2016 #24
He's not that manipulative. unblock Sep 2016 #2
He's manipulative enough to hog the headlines though. bettyellen Sep 2016 #3
Only in the way Ebola was manipulative unblock Sep 2016 #5
LOL, it's nice to see his lies have gone from taboo to mention to "everyone knows" bettyellen Sep 2016 #6
Now if only we can progress from "everybody knows" to "everybody cares".... unblock Sep 2016 #7
If they'd actually spend a few minutes on the lies and issues of non- transparency bettyellen Sep 2016 #17
His tweet about inviting Flowers was purely vindictive and Arkansas Granny Sep 2016 #13
I think you are right.. zenabby Sep 2016 #14
I Don't Think He Deserves Any Credit DarthDem Sep 2016 #4
Except he is a master of setting the tone and picking the issue ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2016 #9
Some Master DarthDem Sep 2016 #15
To you. NOT to the anti-lakewobegone crew that loves him. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2016 #16
Guess What? DarthDem Sep 2016 #21
I truly hope you are correct. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2016 #22
It doesn't help him to be associated with Flowers. MoonRiver Sep 2016 #8
Everyone has had a mostly negative reaction to it. Agschmid Sep 2016 #10
Trump won the GOP nomination by being outwardly bigoted and jingoistic. He's debating LuvLoogie Sep 2016 #11
And he's just alienated even more women voters. I think the beauty was in the way Cuban trolled him. pnwmom Sep 2016 #12
Chess, poker, and Russian roulette all mixed into one. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2016 #18
We need to stop thinking that winning the news cycle is the same thing stopbush Sep 2016 #19
It shows how utterly tacky and hostile to women he is BainsBane Sep 2016 #20
My uncle had a pet pig. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2016 #23
Bullshit...you guys make Trump out to be well smart and he is not Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #25
Yep. stopbush Sep 2016 #26

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
1. Perhaps, but don't forget that people who don't know
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:52 PM
Sep 2016

what to think about real issues will have an opinion on this. The spiteful people won't be affected, but his campaign's quashing of this reveals their belief that it would repel those they are hoping to woo or keep. Of course.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
24. Exactly.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 05:46 PM
Sep 2016

This failure kind of hits him where HE lives. He should be winning HUGELY in the tabloid arena. I'm not exactly sure that is the case.

unblock

(52,277 posts)
2. He's not that manipulative.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 04:08 PM
Sep 2016

I can't seriously believe that he carefully thought, hmm, I want to crowd bad stories about me off the front page, how do I do that? Lessee, I know! I'll look for an opportunity to mention something silly! Wait, did hill just invite that Cuban guy to the debates? That's it, I'll threaten to invite flowers! They'll cover that tweet storm instead! I'm a calm, calculating supragenius!



No, Donnie is a virus. He just does what he does, out of instinct of preprogramming. He's just wired to snap back with crap like that.

It's the media that runs with it. It's their flaw. Trump's behavior exploits this, but not by thought, and more than a virus exploits a weakness in its host.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
6. LOL, it's nice to see his lies have gone from taboo to mention to "everyone knows"
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 04:16 PM
Sep 2016

(Despite us MSM saying nothing) over just the course of a few days. Liar is now sticking to him more.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
17. If they'd actually spend a few minutes on the lies and issues of non- transparency
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 05:03 PM
Sep 2016

Then more people would care. Blew my mind when chuck Todd said people didn't care- he's one who reports rumors and gossip rather than issues all the time. Ugh.

Arkansas Granny

(31,522 posts)
13. His tweet about inviting Flowers was purely vindictive and
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 04:41 PM
Sep 2016

his campaign has spent the day trying to walk it back. I think this is going to backfire on Trump in the long run.

zenabby

(364 posts)
14. I think you are right..
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 04:48 PM
Sep 2016

But he has mentioned that he has realized that the first, base, shallow instinct the audience has for anything is the most deep, valuable one. He does everything to appeal to that first instinctive, basal, animal like instinct in us - fight or flight, fear, tantalization, sex etc. He appeals to that knowing that most people are too lazy to use their logical brain.

DarthDem

(5,256 posts)
4. I Don't Think He Deserves Any Credit
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 04:11 PM
Sep 2016

Evil manipulators are not always successful geniuses. And this doesn't look like a win to me for Trump's idiotic, gutter-dwelling campaign. It looks like the opposite. The exact opposite.

One related note: if you push bad story after bad story off the metaphorical front page with this kind of despicably stupid stunt, you're desperate, and you look even worse.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
9. Except he is a master of setting the tone and picking the issue
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 04:26 PM
Sep 2016

and like the Pied Piper, with the role if kids being filled by our MSM, he leads them merrily astray.

DarthDem

(5,256 posts)
21. Guess What?
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 05:16 PM
Sep 2016

That crowd's going to vote for him anyway. But the sane people he needs? This won't help with them. At all.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
22. I truly hope you are correct.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 05:30 PM
Sep 2016

So far, I am giving the media a D+ this season.
Hillary has been steady, predictable, almost stoic. C+ - B- overall.
As for Der Trumpenfuerher, B+ for monopolizing and putting the media into a professional coma, a D- for honesty and truth, and an F- on the actual issues we face.

I am giving myself a V+

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
8. It doesn't help him to be associated with Flowers.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 04:26 PM
Sep 2016

Reminds people about what a cheater Rump is and builds sympathy for Hillary. If he actually calculated this it was a stupid move.

LuvLoogie

(7,019 posts)
11. Trump won the GOP nomination by being outwardly bigoted and jingoistic. He's debating
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 04:37 PM
Sep 2016

the smartest,toughest woman in American Politics. He doen't have the mental agility to pull off a Gish Gallop in the first debate, and the first debate isn't in Denver.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
19. We need to stop thinking that winning the news cycle is the same thing
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 05:07 PM
Sep 2016

as winning the argument...or the election.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
23. My uncle had a pet pig.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 05:33 PM
Sep 2016

Smart, obedient, protective, and very interactive. If you played with his ears or scratched his ample chest, he would squeal with delight and try to give you his toys. Yes, he had toys.

Thy had cats, dogs, and this pig, and the pig made them cry the most when he passed.

Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
25. Bullshit...you guys make Trump out to be well smart and he is not
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 09:45 PM
Sep 2016

All publicity is not good publicity and this backfired on him...which is why he took it back.

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