2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTrump Campaign Struggles to Explain Gennifer Flowers Invite
Just a day after Donald Trump threatened to rattle Hillary by bringing one of Bill's mistresses, the Trump campaign wasn't exactly clear if the invite was legitimate.
JACKIE KUCINICH
OLIVIA NUZZI
09.25.16 12:27 PM ET
Two days before the first presidential debate that could determine the trajectory of the general election, Donald Trump took to Twitter to taunt Hillary Clinton with the possibility that he would invite one of her husbands former mistresses to sit in the front row.
A day later, on Sunday, his campaigns top surrogates were forced to waste precious time cleaning up after him--saying, at turns, that Gennifer Flowers hadn't been invited, that they didn't expect her to come, and that the entire thing was a lighthearted joke.
Just as the polls are narrowing and Trumps handlers attempt to restrain him seems to be paying off, he went off the rails again--a common theme in 2016, and one that underscores the Republican nominees unpredictability right when it could prove most lethal to his White House hopes.
Trumps almost-invitation to Flowers, which she gleefully accepted with a kiss emoji on Twitter, came after billionaire Trump troll Mark Cuban announced he would be in the front row of the debate.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/25/trump-campaign-struggles-to-explain-gennifer-flowers-invite.html
BootinUp
(47,171 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)been his "campaign manager," i.e., clown handler, for 5 weeks.
BootinUp
(47,171 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Gothmog
(145,427 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)it's working
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)...deplorable Donald..and his alt right minions...seriously America?
Yonnie3
(17,446 posts)WTF? More like the Rump showing his a$$.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)What a complete fucking jerk he is.
rumdude
(448 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)And he said Trump's favorite line that excuses all of Trump's behavior in Trump's mind -- "she started it!" (Mark Cuban is the one who made comments, and Cuban is very different than Flowers).
Pence stated that Flowers would not be at the debate.
BayouBengal07
(1,486 posts)Implicit in the "she started it!" excuse, from birtherism to Flowers, is that whatever she "started" is bad, because otherwise what would the point be to throwing the behavior back on Clinton? So if that's the case, why doesn't anyone ask why it's terrible for Clinton to have "started" these things (whether she did or not aside), and why does that make it OK for the Trump camp to engage in such behavior?
mucifer
(23,557 posts)so annoyed.
This is a presidential election, not a soap opera.
gabeana
(3,166 posts)polls are not narrowing overall they are trending in Hillary's favor
trueblue2007
(17,231 posts)nolabear
(41,990 posts)You'd think the would-be grifters-along would catch on.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)There's no angle in this reaction from which trump looks good.
tblue37
(65,457 posts)in a very public way, thus humiliating her unnecessarily.
That won't look good to a lot of women. It smacks of the kind of a**h*** who pranks the unpopular girl by pretending to invite her to the prom and then just not showing up after she has spent all that time and money getting all gussied up.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Asking your ex girlfriends new boyfriends ex girlfriend to the prom.
But, still the work of an asshole.
And, this stuff will hurt Assface...he's shallow, and seemingly enamored of reality teevee.
Problem is, he's getting beat on that angle of the campaign, as well. So, he's losing on policy, substance, and fluff.
The man is failure in a suit. And a really long tie.
tblue37
(65,457 posts)he stands her up--and that insults and humiliates the pawn who was invited only for the purpose of embarrassing the other person.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)He will be colossally failing so much, we'll get sick of all the fail!
Blue Idaho
(5,051 posts)I can't imagine anything that will piss off and energize Democrats and independents more. It proves what a total shit Trump is. He is nothing but a petty small minded child.
Princess Turandot
(4,787 posts)announced that he was going to attend the debate:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512430750
I don't think that the 'invitation' was a solely spontaneous Trump-only idea, given the above. It sounds like something Ailes would have suggested to him: trying to humiliate a spouse for 'losing her man', because that's probably how he and Trump rationalize their own actions.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)I would not follow him down the street, much less any action he might take.
tandem5
(2,072 posts)Oh sure he floated the idea, but Flowers may have maneuvered quickly and invited herself. In Trump psychology he is constantly assessing whether he is coming across strongly or weakly. The ambivalence might arise from dueling perceptions: he thinks that he would appear foolish if people perceived that Flowers stole his narrative, but on the other hand there is nothing strong about backtracking on supposedly inviting her in the first place. Based on everything he has said and done to date I would think he would care little that it is an act of sexism to rub her nose in Bill Clinton's infidelity and that that is the source of the "struggle."
What I'm getting at is there may be leverage in suggesting Flowers took control of his narrative.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)If dopey Mark Cuban of failed Benefactor fame wants to sit in the front row,
perhaps I will put Gennifer Flowers right alongside of him!
Donald J. Drumpf (@realDonaldDrumpf) September 24, 2016
Flowers, via Twitter and a spokeswoman, responded that shed be happy to attend.
Hi Donald. You know I'm in your corner and will definitely be at the debate!...💋
Gennifer Flowers (@gennflowers) September 24, 2016
tandem5
(2,072 posts)Flowers may have injected herself into his twitter rant and stole the show. Regardless of what the truth is Trump does not want to appear weak so to suggest that Flowers invited herself in his mind would be a knock to his power and control.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)Any interpretation leads to Trump stepping in it with no regard to consequences.
Arkansas Granny
(31,522 posts)Without that, Flowers would have never entered the conversation.
tandem5
(2,072 posts)vdogg
(1,384 posts)Oops.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,322 posts)Suckers!!!