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What quip should Hillary say about Gennifer Flowers to Trump? Put your quotes here: (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2016 OP
" " The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2016 #1
This. Frankly I'm a little disturbed at how many are falling for this "cat fight" gambit. bettyellen Sep 2016 #9
Me too. Any response would be walking right into a trap. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2016 #11
At the very least he wants to replace headlines that will say he bombed with pics of Flowers and a bettyellen Sep 2016 #12
Admiral Akbar exboyfil Sep 2016 #16
LOL thank you!! bettyellen Sep 2016 #22
Agree 100%. susanna Sep 2016 #23
"Oh Donald, I see you brought your grandmother." misterhighwasted Sep 2016 #2
Why are you letting Trump trick you into denigrating women? Seriously .... bettyellen Sep 2016 #10
Oh ffs. Its a ridiculous answer to a riduculous question. misterhighwasted Sep 2016 #13
Attacking her on her looks is sexist and beneath us. It's really that simple. bettyellen Sep 2016 #14
Haaahaaa! Geezus Kerriiist! The question begged for a dumb answer. misterhighwasted Sep 2016 #19
I did not label you as anti-woman. Wow. It is a sexist remark and it's shit to see here. bettyellen Sep 2016 #21
Yes you certainaly did. And yes. WOW IS RIGHT. misterhighwasted Sep 2016 #25
Then call her out for what she does and says and not take cheap sexist swipes like that... bettyellen Sep 2016 #27
No there is a difference between calling a remark sexist and a person anything. And that she bettyellen Sep 2016 #29
No. you need to learn the difference. misterhighwasted Sep 2016 #32
judging a woman solely on her physical attractiveness , as you did there, is basically bettyellen Sep 2016 #40
Gennifer Flowers is not a very smart person vlyons Sep 2016 #36
It appears that she has some shitty values, like many people she is willing to cash in without a bettyellen Sep 2016 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author PJMcK Sep 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author gopiscrap Sep 2016 #3
That's the last thing Hillary would ever say. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2016 #7
I agree - say nothing Farmgirl1961 Sep 2016 #4
Agree Lithos Sep 2016 #6
That's a double standard. Cuban was clearly announced OnDoutside Sep 2016 #28
I would not blame her campaign - Cuban likes to troll people and if it was well thought out they'd bettyellen Sep 2016 #30
I am not blaming her campaign but neither am I blaming OnDoutside Sep 2016 #31
'At least Bill can still get it up.' nt onehandle Sep 2016 #5
uppityperson Sep 2016 #8
She shouldn't say a thing. LisaL Sep 2016 #15
She should say she's not Bill. n/t Lil Missy Sep 2016 #17
At least she's not his daughter. Ready4Change Sep 2016 #20
"We're talking about the leadership of the Free World, not a reality show. Next question please." Freddie Sep 2016 #24
That's the approach I would use. DFW Sep 2016 #26
The campaign is a reality show. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2016 #37
Don't take the bait. nt greyl Sep 2016 #33
Don't Take The Bait! Cycle2016 Sep 2016 #34
Nothing. DTs is trying to get HRC into the gutter with him and get into her head. She won't rise ... Hekate Sep 2016 #35
Here: longship Sep 2016 #38
Ms Flowers was over 15 get the red out Sep 2016 #39
If she attends Sec. Clinton should whistler162 Sep 2016 #42

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,783 posts)
1. " "
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 12:14 AM
Sep 2016

She should say nothing at all and ignore the whole thing. Trump is trying to yank her chain and she shouldn't let him.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,783 posts)
11. Me too. Any response would be walking right into a trap.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 12:24 AM
Sep 2016

Trump wants a shit fight. It's like the old saying about why you shouldn't mud-wrestle with a pig: You'll get all dirty, and the pig likes it. Hillary should not even acknowledge this childish ploy, and I don't think she will.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
12. At the very least he wants to replace headlines that will say he bombed with pics of Flowers and a
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 12:27 AM
Sep 2016

A Hillary quote. Nope. It's a trap.

susanna

(5,231 posts)
23. Agree 100%.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 01:56 AM
Sep 2016

There is no reason whatsoever to acknowledge it; that is what he wants. Bullies are shitheads, and always will be. Deny them the satisfaction. If he pushes it, he looks like the ass.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
2. "Oh Donald, I see you brought your grandmother."
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 12:16 AM
Sep 2016

Last edited Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:47 AM - Edit history (1)



HERE:
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For everything that Flowers & Trump callously have done to Hillary Clinton, this is what I would like to hear her say.




 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
10. Why are you letting Trump trick you into denigrating women? Seriously ....
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 12:23 AM
Sep 2016

I'm glad Hillary would never fall for this shit.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
13. Oh ffs. Its a ridiculous answer to a riduculous question.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 12:30 AM
Sep 2016

Hillary would say nothing because she is too professional & has far too much class & honor to stoop to Trump's idiotic games.

This whole G Flowers thing smacks of Kellyanne Conway who owes her fame to the women who all appeared out of nowhere with a Bill Clinton story to tell in the days of his fake Impeachment.

Didn't Trump just hire another mgr who also had his head buried deep in the hills of Arkansas hot on the trail of Paula Jones?
Good Lord.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
14. Attacking her on her looks is sexist and beneath us. It's really that simple.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 12:34 AM
Sep 2016

It literally makes no difference if you think she'd say it or not. Whether you hate the woman or not. It's sexist crap that sounds like Donald. What about that do t you get?

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
19. Haaahaaa! Geezus Kerriiist! The question begged for a dumb answer.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 12:59 AM
Sep 2016

Sexist? ME?!!
My god, I have stood by womens rights on every damn level. Stood by every single thing Hillary has been fighting for ..I have given to The great women's rights groups of Planned Parenthood to Emily's list and stood firm as this bull shit campaign has made its way through the year.

I recall being kicked out of DU as I defended Hillary against some of the worst mysoginistic hateful dialogue on DU I have ever seen, just this past year.

Dont ever label me as anti-women.
I have no love for a woman like G Flowers who has been well paid for the gang she joined in one of the nastiest smear campaigns in history.

The Karl Rove RW did exactly to Bill Clinton as they did to Pres Obama ans as they are doing to Hillary Clinton.

Stupid b.s. is what this is about.
Flowers should know better than to put herself in this position and tells us exactly what a fine dignified person she is. NOT.

Its not about her female gender..its about her inserting herself in this debate & the reason why.

I don't give 2 fucks about her. She knows exactly what she is doing and it should be beneath any woman to play the game Trump is playing.

Thanks anyway.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
25. Yes you certainaly did. And yes. WOW IS RIGHT.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 02:34 AM
Sep 2016

Have you not read one thing I have said?
It should be far beneath G Flowers to play Mr Mysoginst Trump's game against Hillary Clinton.
BTW, Did GFlowers not know Bill Clinton was a married man when she agreed to see him, way back the? Yet now she shows up on Natl TV at a debate to sit in front of the very fellow female she betrayed.
She knows damn well what she is doing. Flowers has zero respect from me as a human being regardless of what gender she is.

She is willing to play Trumps dirty game.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
27. Then call her out for what she does and says and not take cheap sexist swipes like that...
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:05 AM
Sep 2016

Do you know there is a big difference between saying a remark is sexist and the person who said it is ....well actually anything. I did not call you a woman hater, so get over yourself. Same as the people here on DU who called her a slut did, you made a sexist remark. Same as all that Mann Coulter bullshit.

You don't seem to understand it doesn't matter what woman you target with sexism - it is still sexist. You're mocking her for not being young and pretty. That's sexist.
It should not define you though. I'd hope it doesn't.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
29. No there is a difference between calling a remark sexist and a person anything. And that she
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:16 AM
Sep 2016

Had questionable morals or is a hypocrite is not a reason for you to think it's okay to mock her for not being young and sexy. Just as it sucked when others here called her a slut. That would also be sexist.

It wouldn't be okay to make racist remarks if she was black, would it? It's basically the same thing. That she is of bad character does not mean all bets are off.
Just as it was wrong to attack Coulter for her looks- instead of her character and deeds- it's wrong here.

I said nothing about you- just about that offensive remark. Learn the difference please.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
32. No. you need to learn the difference.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:41 AM
Sep 2016

You have seriously mis read every single word I posted.
I will be sure to add the sarcasm smiley next time.
You have insulted everything I have posted because you failed to read the original post as it was intended.

I am the LAST person to be called sexist on this board.
Maybe it is you that should learn the difference next time.
I resent your personal insults and accusations.

Trashing this pointless thread and ignoring your broadbrushing personal attacks.

Good lord!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
40. judging a woman solely on her physical attractiveness , as you did there, is basically
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 11:53 AM
Sep 2016

The most common and insidious form of sexism there is. There is no double standard where "some women" deserve for people like you to weigh in on their fuckability- but you'd never do that if a woman was "good enough". You might as well call her a slut.

I'm sure you're otherwise a fine person, but you have a blind spot around this.

I get that it's a hard habit to break. Just keep in mind that no one but a few locker room buddies cares to hear you grade women on their looks. Seriously, the women in the room are cringing while giving you a pass when you make comments like that.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
36. Gennifer Flowers is not a very smart person
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 05:15 AM
Sep 2016

What kind of woman would allow herself to be so blatantly used by a guy, who cares not a bit if she gets humiliated. Having been burned once before and excoriated by being "the other woman" and dragging her dirty laundry into the public, now she's going to do it again? She must be desparate for attention to go along with this. Not a very smart person. If Hillary says anything, it will be kind-hearted and polite. But I doubt that Hillary will say anything even if asked.

The real question is will the moderator ask?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
41. It appears that she has some shitty values, like many people she is willing to cash in without a
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 11:57 AM
Sep 2016

Second thought. Would that he commented on that rather than her "faded beauty" aka lack of fuckability.
Sad.

Response to misterhighwasted (Reply #2)

Response to applegrove (Original post)

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,783 posts)
7. That's the last thing Hillary would ever say.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 12:19 AM
Sep 2016

I doubt that a grossly sexist term like "slut" is in her vocabulary.

Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
4. I agree - say nothing
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 12:17 AM
Sep 2016

unless she wants to make an oblique reference, such as "I want to thank all of you, and I mean all of you, for coming to the Hoefstra center tonight to witness this debate". Nada más

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
6. Agree
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 12:19 AM
Sep 2016

Take the highroad

The reason Mark Cuban is there is because he's challenged Trump on not addressing the issues. Flowers is just a very low level stunt at grandstanding.

L-

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
28. That's a double standard. Cuban was clearly announced
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:11 AM
Sep 2016

3 days in advance to provoke Trump. It had to have been deliberate on behalf of the Clinton campaign, and I suspect they knew Trump would respond in this way. "You attack me and I'll hit you twice as hard".

Thinking about it, perhaps the Clinton campaign wants to start the effort to f××k with his head, create that temperamental anger a couple of days before, so that he will be nicely marinated in time for Monday night. If Trump's aim was to dope-a-rope through 90 minutes, this might have planted the seed of revenge, against his handlers wishes.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
30. I would not blame her campaign - Cuban likes to troll people and if it was well thought out they'd
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:29 AM
Sep 2016

Have done it much closer to the debate. It sounds like pure Cuban to me.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
31. I am not blaming her campaign but neither am I blaming
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:40 AM
Sep 2016

Trump, because that was the purpose of announcing Cuban. It's what Trump does, and to me that's clearly the response they were waiting for. It was interesting that it had not been announced if Bill was going to attend. I think they knew the likely response from Trump, but let's be honest this is a strategy and we should hardly be castigating Trump for doing what the Clinton campaign probably wanted to provoke.

DFW

(54,420 posts)
26. That's the approach I would use.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 02:35 AM
Sep 2016

Make Trump seem like a chump. If he persists, just say, "I'm still on my first marriage because I felt it was worth fighting for, and Mr. Trump is on his third. I think that is about all the time this subject deserves in a debate concerning the next President of the United States, unless Mr. Trump is somehow under the delusion that the next president will not be confronted with any issue of greater importance."

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,359 posts)
37. The campaign is a reality show.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 06:53 AM
Sep 2016

And the front row of the audience is often seeded with biased supporters. There will be retired generals if the speech is about defense. There will be Sandy Hook parents if the speech is about gun control. Etc.

It's all staged as much as possible. Including these debates.

Whatever either candidate says in the debates, I doubt it will change my vote. It might change the votes of the "undecided", whoever they are.

Cycle2016

(161 posts)
34. Don't Take The Bait!
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:47 AM
Sep 2016

She should completely ignore her as if she is not in the room. " When they go low, We go high". Let him stew about it.

Hekate

(90,755 posts)
35. Nothing. DTs is trying to get HRC into the gutter with him and get into her head. She won't rise ...
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 04:26 AM
Sep 2016

...to the bait, ever.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
42. If she attends Sec. Clinton should
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 12:44 PM
Sep 2016

get off the stage and greet her warmly, smile and hug, and thank her for attending.

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