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Gennifer Flowers accepted Trump's invitation for the debate (Original Post) Beaverhausen Sep 2016 OP
That will help lower the cost of college tuition. upaloopa Sep 2016 #1
As if there weren't enough stuff going on! CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2016 #2
Where's trump's other wives? They should be front row material also. shraby Sep 2016 #3
He paid them off. Won't say a negative word about him. Nt helpisontheway Sep 2016 #20
Four empty chairs would be the same thing. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2016 #60
Trump is just trying to make a circus out of this liberal N proud Sep 2016 #4
That's why I thought mark cuban nonsense shouldn't be allowed yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #18
Hold on, we know that Trump has a history of hitting back harder than when he is being OnDoutside Sep 2016 #22
I sure hope this is a bait and switch, or something, by the Hillary campaign. pangaia Sep 2016 #61
The announcement was or maybe a poor choice.... FarPoint Sep 2016 #65
I think you are right. GoCubsGo Sep 2016 #81
It goes to the narrative that Trump demeans women. OnDoutside Sep 2016 #84
This message was self-deleted by its author GoCubsGo Sep 2016 #80
What a hypocritical gutter slob. PearliePoo2 Sep 2016 #5
Exactly. Obviously the serial whore knows no shame. politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #27
doesn't sound like trump actually invited her, donnie just said "perhaps" unblock Sep 2016 #6
According to this, she was invited... babylonsister Sep 2016 #16
i wonder if we're seriously supposed to think that twice-divorced lying donnie has never cheated unblock Sep 2016 #21
Of course he did, but he's babylonsister Sep 2016 #35
Lying Donnie bought mistress Marla Maples on the family holiday Ski Trip to Aspen Co and put her up politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #41
"would like to see" does not logically equal "invited" Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #69
I wonder how much she is being paid? kimbutgar Sep 2016 #7
She had to know that was part of the deal going in./nt DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2016 #12
This is so wrong. so so wrong. And dirty. Cuban is a fan of Hillary's. Flowers is a riversedge Sep 2016 #8
Oh my. Well, I have to admit I saw this coming awhile ago. jalan48 Sep 2016 #9
He got what he wanted out of that tweet... CincyDem Sep 2016 #10
The committee already said that Cuban wasn't allowed to sit on the front Iliyah Sep 2016 #42
Thanks - I didn't realize that the committee decision was made days ago. CincyDem Sep 2016 #45
...and I agree with you that he is showing his true colors when it comes to women. n/t CincyDem Sep 2016 #46
Good. Show us what a true classless act looks like uppityperson Sep 2016 #11
Well fine then. If Trump thinks this will intimidate Hillary he is an livetohike Sep 2016 #13
Hillary's got this. (nt) enough Sep 2016 #14
Oh yeah the reply to him has long been prepared Divine Discontent Sep 2016 #36
Agree Kathy M Sep 2016 #38
So he plans to try to publicly humiliate two women Skidmore Sep 2016 #15
This is inappropriate on so many levels. Cuban did not have affair with a trump. onecaliberal Sep 2016 #37
We don't know that Cuabn did not have an affair with trump jiminvegas Sep 2016 #48
Really? Do tell? onecaliberal Sep 2016 #83
Yep izzybella Sep 2016 #47
The Democrats should find the security guard that Marla Maples avebury Sep 2016 #68
More puerile crap from Trump. madamesilverspurs Sep 2016 #17
Even if Flowers winds up not going to the debate, this is a fat hanging curve ball for Hillary Mayberry Machiavelli Sep 2016 #19
Bang took the bait dreamer67 Sep 2016 #29
"We kept our family together" underpants Sep 2016 #51
Hillary should invite the woman who sued Trump for raping her when she was underage. Vinca Sep 2016 #23
Another stupid move...and why am I not surprised.... TwistedTinkerbelle Sep 2016 #24
there are very bad people who will love what Trump is doing: trying to humiliate a woman by CTyankee Sep 2016 #32
Put the Khans next to Mark Cuban NoGoodNamesLeft Sep 2016 #25
that won't matter to him. the reason Cuban does is Cuban actually is what trump JI7 Sep 2016 #26
^^^THAT^^^ Cuban is actually intelligent. onecaliberal Sep 2016 #39
Seriously folk's - gennifer Flowers asiliveandbreathe Sep 2016 #28
who mog75 Sep 2016 #30
If Flowers is there, Trump will point her out left-of-center2012 Sep 2016 #31
If that happens, I think it will hurt Trump more than help him. An adulterer himself, Mamajami Sep 2016 #33
Yep JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #54
Wouldn't it be funny if Flowers said she was voting for Clinton? vlyons Sep 2016 #34
The big difference PJMcK Sep 2016 #40
We win!! nolabear Sep 2016 #43
Well okay then ..... Hope George Conway III ( Kelly Ann Conway ) husband will also Kathy M Sep 2016 #44
I bet Hillary invited Cuban just to see if trump would do something stupid. jiminvegas Sep 2016 #49
If Trump goes down this route, Hillary will find a 10% jump... LAS14 Sep 2016 #50
And some here think JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #52
Monica Lewinsky is not available? BlueInPhilly Sep 2016 #53
LOL - Linda Tripp? LeftInTX Sep 2016 #67
Trump really is doing a pro wrestling schtick underpants Sep 2016 #55
That was a good article. It explained a lot to me. Snotcicles Sep 2016 #63
Very excellent. Yes he knows the crowd just wants to be angry and yell underpants Sep 2016 #77
Hillary should put an empty chair in first row mainstreetonce Sep 2016 #56
And another for his never-seen publicist John Miller.... . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #72
She really wants to show her face in public again? Lebam in LA Sep 2016 #57
And what is she going to do? longship Sep 2016 #58
Clinton should invite Juan Carlos Enriquez. baldguy Sep 2016 #59
Oh ffs. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2016 #62
Play his game Hillary. Invite Trump's Rape Victim. Front Row Seat misterhighwasted Sep 2016 #64
Hell, just put one or both of his ex-wives there. GoCubsGo Sep 2016 #82
If this happens lapucelle Sep 2016 #66
If she looks like this no one will recognize her LeftInTX Sep 2016 #70
This should hurt him with Thrill Sep 2016 #71
I think it might. riversedge Sep 2016 #76
This makes... Mike Nelson Sep 2016 #73
Because she hasn't had her name in the news in over twenty years Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2016 #74
An old has-been torch singer who can't hold a tune? tavernier Sep 2016 #75
Dear World Stage, spiderpig Sep 2016 #78
So What. Lifelong Protester Sep 2016 #79

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
4. Trump is just trying to make a circus out of this
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:38 PM
Sep 2016

The Republican Primary Debates were and he needs that atmosphere to perform.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
18. That's why I thought mark cuban nonsense shouldn't be allowed
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:03 PM
Sep 2016

The whole thing is getting weird already.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
22. Hold on, we know that Trump has a history of hitting back harder than when he is being
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:07 PM
Sep 2016

trolled. The Clinton campaign went down this road with Cuban, first. Even I predicted here yesterday that Trump would respond in kind, it wasn't rocket science. The bit I cling to is that the Clinton Campaign knew that he would do something like this in response, and it's part of some overall plan.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
61. I sure hope this is a bait and switch, or something, by the Hillary campaign.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 06:25 PM
Sep 2016

otherwise they should never have announced it.

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
65. The announcement was or maybe a poor choice....
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 06:29 PM
Sep 2016

Either way, Hillary can handle Flowers without problems.... Hillary is class..flowers is a opportunist. My hope the Hillary Campaign baited Trump and has another card to play.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
81. I think you are right.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:26 PM
Sep 2016

The Gennifer Flowers nonsense took place over 30 years ago. She is so far back in Hillary's rear view mirror, it isn't funny. If the Trump campaign thinks they're going to get a rise out of her by doing this, they are fucking clueless.

Response to OnDoutside (Reply #22)

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
27. Exactly. Obviously the serial whore knows no shame.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:19 PM
Sep 2016

To think that Trump claims he doesn't drink or do drugs. So being the a$$hole that he is, he can't blame anyone for his problems but himself I guess.

unblock

(52,253 posts)
6. doesn't sound like trump actually invited her, donnie just said "perhaps"
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:41 PM
Sep 2016

so she invited herself, lol!


more important, how ridiculous is it for the debate commission to "frown" on hillary inviting cuban?

he's not just someone involved for the sole purpose of needling the opponent, like flowers. cuban is a major donor and fundraiser for hillary. what has flowers done aside from having an affair with hillary's husband?

babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
16. According to this, she was invited...
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:59 PM
Sep 2016

Every day I have the same old question: how low will he go. Seems that pit is bottomless.


http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/gennifer-flowers-will-join-donald-trump-at-mondays-presidential-debate/

Gennifer Flowers will join Donald Trump at Monday’s presidential debate
David Ferguson
24 Sep 2016 at 16:19 ET


Gennifer Flowers — a woman with whom former Pres. Bill Clinton had an extramarital affair — has announced that she is accepting Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s invitation to sit in the front row of Monday night’s presidential debate.

BuzzFeed News reported Saturday that Trump posted on Twitter that he would like to see Ms. Flowers in the audience on Monday.

Within hours, Flowers announced that she would be happy to be there.

The move by the Trump team appears to indicate that Trump will be bringing up former Pres. Clinton’s marital infidelities in an attempt to humiliate Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton at some point during the debate.

unblock

(52,253 posts)
21. i wonder if we're seriously supposed to think that twice-divorced lying donnie has never cheated
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:07 PM
Sep 2016

divorce, in and of itself doesn't necessarily mean anyone cheated, but in donnie's case, two divorces combine with many other factors that highly suggest that he's cheated. not limited to his penchant for cheating in other areas, his ego, his misogyny, his narcissism, his lack of impulse control, etc.

babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
35. Of course he did, but he's
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:31 PM
Sep 2016

possibly banking on the fact Clinton won't bring it up.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-history-women-adultery-objectification-article-1.2604073

How Donald Trump used the three women in his life for his own benefit — and pleasure

snip//

Donald preaches in every speech, including the one announcing his presidential bid, about his devotion to the Second Amendment.

But it’s the Fifth Amendment that was his favorite when he was deposed in the divorce with Ivana, invoked 97 times to be exact, and mostly in response to questions about “other women.”

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
41. Lying Donnie bought mistress Marla Maples on the family holiday Ski Trip to Aspen Co and put her up
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:44 PM
Sep 2016

at the same hotel that the family was staying at. Mistress Marla got tired of being tucked away and only brought out to service him, I guess, and decided to confront the wife on the ski slopes in front of the children and everythng. Trump sure knows how to pick them. The rest is history.

The sad part is that Trump falsified his net worth during his divorce from Ivana and she got much less in her divorce settlement than she was entitled to as a result of his hiding of marital assets. With Marla Maples, he had a prenuptial agreement with her and filed for divorce for her on the eve of which the prenup was due to expire. This was all in that Unfinished Business documentary which was on tv recently. Knowing his history, why anyone would be with him is beyond me. The older kids lived with their mother and didn't like him for a long time for what he did to her with Marla. Now I guess they love him. Probably because their financial security depends on him. I'd rather be broke.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
69. "would like to see" does not logically equal "invited"
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 06:54 PM
Sep 2016

Obama would like to see Putin grovel on the floor and lick his boots and apologize for interfering in this election. That does not mean he is going to invite him to do those three things.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
8. This is so wrong. so so wrong. And dirty. Cuban is a fan of Hillary's. Flowers is a
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:43 PM
Sep 2016

piece of crap! To have her sit front row is Wrong!

CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
10. He got what he wanted out of that tweet...
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:48 PM
Sep 2016


...he couldn't care less about Flowers but he did get the commission to say they're not happy about Cuban being in the front row.

Classic bullying tactic when negotiating with an arbitrator (which is, I think, like negotiating with the debate committee). Take what the other side is doing, do something very similar to an extreme. It always invites the arbitrator to turn to the reasonable party and say "now lets be reasonable".

My bet - Cuban won't be sitting in the front row about Flowers will be watching from home.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
42. The committee already said that Cuban wasn't allowed to sit on the front
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:51 PM
Sep 2016

row days ago. t-rump is again making an ass of himself and many women of all shades will not and do not appreciate his motive.

CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
45. Thanks - I didn't realize that the committee decision was made days ago.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:57 PM
Sep 2016

Just saw it in the context of this Flowers thing and thought they were connected.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
36. Oh yeah the reply to him has long been prepared
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:35 PM
Sep 2016

You go ahead and focus on reality TV topics, I'll focus on our country... and Donald, you can keep bringing up these topics, I'll keep my mind focused on higher priorities - we've seen what your priorities have been --- Pleasing Donald.

Or something of that nature. I'd hate if she doesn't have a home run comment ready for every stupid low class scummy Drumf comment.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
15. So he plans to try to publicly humiliate two women
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:57 PM
Sep 2016

in front of the nation. A very sexist thing to do. A reality show stunt worthy of Jerry Springer or Maury Povich. This is a job interview, for pity sake. It may very well be the only time they will debate because that cowardly slime will find a way to weasal out of the next one. This is utter sexual harrassment.

If your partner was unfaithful in the past and you had a job interview, would it be appropriate for your rival to show up with the person he/she screwed around with at the interview? I'm contacting Hofstra and at least registering my opinion there.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
37. This is inappropriate on so many levels. Cuban did not have affair with a trump.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:39 PM
Sep 2016

Maher is right, among so many other things, drumpf is a whiny little *&^%#.

izzybella

(236 posts)
47. Yep
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:59 PM
Sep 2016

It is especially awful when one of the women managed to work though her marriage issues and save her marriage. Something that most people admire rather than use as a tool of humiliation.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
68. The Democrats should find the security guard that Marla Maples
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 06:45 PM
Sep 2016

cheated on Don the Con. Imagine making arrangments for someone to conduct a tv interview with that guy before the debates.

madamesilverspurs

(15,805 posts)
17. More puerile crap from Trump.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:59 PM
Sep 2016

Hillary invited Mark Cuban, who is an impressive counterpoint to things said and done BY Trump.

Trump responded by inviting Gennifer Flowers, whose presence would be intended to punish Hillary for something that was done TO Hillary.

Trump truly excels at proving that money buys neither smarts nor class.




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Mayberry Machiavelli

(21,096 posts)
19. Even if Flowers winds up not going to the debate, this is a fat hanging curve ball for Hillary
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:04 PM
Sep 2016

to smack out of the ballpark.

Trump fucked up bad.

dreamer67

(12 posts)
29. Bang took the bait
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:21 PM
Sep 2016

Is there a woman in America that will blame the wife for her hasbands infidelity? NO

Very easy one for Hillery to turn on trump with her eyes closed.

This also won't go down well with religious types.

This is a big looser for trump

TwistedTinkerbelle

(137 posts)
24. Another stupid move...and why am I not surprised....
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:14 PM
Sep 2016

All this is going to do is garner sympathy for HRC with women voters. Like they needed to be reminded of all his ex-wives and infidelities...Bad move.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
32. there are very bad people who will love what Trump is doing: trying to humiliate a woman by
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:24 PM
Sep 2016

humiliating (and paying her for her trouble) another.

VERY BAD PEOPLE who are Trump voters...

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
28. Seriously folk's - gennifer Flowers
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:20 PM
Sep 2016

intimidate Hillary - not on her best day - Hillary has moved on - flowers is a poor excuse for a woman....always follow the money...she is prostituting herself...just gotta' laugh at the deplorables...

be well all - I know I have a football game Monday night..even if I'm a Pats fan.....

 

Mamajami

(257 posts)
33. If that happens, I think it will hurt Trump more than help him. An adulterer himself,
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:27 PM
Sep 2016

he is treading on thin ice.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
40. The big difference
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:40 PM
Sep 2016

Mark Cuban's presence will rattle Donald Trump, especially if Mr. Cuban staring at Mr. Trump.

Hillary Clinton will do something gracious like welcoming Gennifer Flowers to the event and perhaps even asking for her vote!

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
43. We win!!
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:54 PM
Sep 2016

Like Hillary can't handle that bullshit. This just makes Trump look like the asshole he is to everybody who's just not a straight up misogynist sleaze.

Trump thinks this is WWF. He's wrong.

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
44. Well okay then ..... Hope George Conway III ( Kelly Ann Conway ) husband will also
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 05:55 PM
Sep 2016

be there . Probably has been a while since everyone has seen each other . There is a history with George Conway ( he is a lawyer ) George Conway is part of the smearing of the extra marital affairs , sounds like he holds a low opinion of the Clinton 's .

"George T. Conway 3d, a New York lawyer educated at Yale, shared Mr. Marcus's low view of President Clinton. When the Jones case led to Ms. Lewinsky, Mr. Marcus and Mr. Conway searched for a new lawyer for Mrs. Tripp. Mr. Marcus and Mr. Porter helped arrange for Mrs. Tripp to take her explosive allegations to Mr. Starr."

"In June 1994, Mr. Rosenzweig, a lawyer at a small law firm in Washington, with experience working in the Justice Department, expressed interest in doing legal work on behalf of Ms. Jones, but he did none, lawyers involved in the case said.

Law Firm Included Influential Democrats

Mr. Conway wanted his role kept hidden as well, because his New York law firm, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz, included influential Democrats like Bernard W. Nussbaum, a former White House counsel. Mr. Conway's name does not appear on any billing records.

Although the billing records show communication between Mr. Porter and the Jones lawyers from 1994 to 1997, he denied in a written statement last fall doing legal work for Ms. Jones."

That was just couple bits from article , rest at link ... kinda long

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/01/24/us/president-s-trial-lawsuit-quietly-team-lawyers-kept-paula-jones-s-case-alive.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

jiminvegas

(104 posts)
49. I bet Hillary invited Cuban just to see if trump would do something stupid.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 06:11 PM
Sep 2016

And he took the bait. Point Hillary.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
50. If Trump goes down this route, Hillary will find a 10% jump...
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 06:13 PM
Sep 2016

... in the polls from women who remember those days.

Don't forget that there are a LOT of voters who, like someone above in this thread, will just say "Who is Gennifer Flowers?"

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)
53. Monica Lewinsky is not available?
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 06:16 PM
Sep 2016

Why would he go for the B-team? C'mon, Donald, you can do better! Let the world see how much of an asshole you are.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
77. Very excellent. Yes he knows the crowd just wants to be angry and yell
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:04 PM
Sep 2016

why the crowd is yelling doesn't matter, they just came to vent. I'm convinced that at some point the protests were staged (there was one in Rhode Island in an event tent that was almost TOO on cue) because it was part of the show. The crowd wants to see the same thing they've seen on TV. They want the greatest hits they've heard 100's of times.

I'll trade you great article for great article. This is from 5 seasoned NYC writers who've covered Trump and even his father.

Trumpology: A Master Class

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
64. Play his game Hillary. Invite Trump's Rape Victim. Front Row Seat
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 06:26 PM
Sep 2016

Has the new lawsuit been filed?
How about all the contractors Trump stiffed . I say fill up the damn place.
Stupid fuck

lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
66. If this happens
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 06:40 PM
Sep 2016

it won't be to Trump's advantage. Attempting to shame and embarrass the first female major party nominee will only lose him more women voters. The only people snickering will be the idiots who were voting for Trump anyway.

As for Gennifer Flowers's part in this, she is a 66 year old who briefly bankrolled her notoriety into D list celebrity status. Showing up at the debate will only serve to underscore the differences between the two women, and it is Ms Flowers who will suffer in comparison.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,035 posts)
74. Because she hasn't had her name in the news in over twenty years
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:04 PM
Sep 2016

Seriously Trump you should move into the 21st century

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
78. Dear World Stage,
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:10 PM
Sep 2016

Many (I would like to think most) of us are not a part of this farce.

We are embarrassed at the antics of the person selected by THE REPUBLICAN PARTY to represent them in pursuing the office of POTUS.

We hope that enough citizens will be motivated to ignore Dancing With The Stars and get out and vote.

Sincerely,

USA Sane People

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