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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:29 PM Sep 2016

New York Times-HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT





In any normal election year, we’d compare the two presidential candidates side by side on the issues. But this is not a normal election year. A comparison like that would be an empty exercise in a race where one candidate — our choice, Hillary Clinton — has a record of service and a raft of pragmatic ideas, and the other, Donald Trump, discloses nothing concrete about himself or his plans while promising the moon and offering the stars on layaway. (We will explain in a subsequent editorial why we believe Mr. Trump to be the worst nominee put forward by a major party in modern American history.)

But this endorsement would also be an empty exercise if it merely affirmed the choice of Clinton supporters. We’re aiming instead to persuade those of you who are hesitating to vote for Mrs. Clinton — because you are reluctant to vote for a Democrat, or for another Clinton, or for a candidate who might appear, on the surface, not to offer change from an establishment that seems indifferent and a political system that seems broken.

Running down the other guy won’t suffice to make that argument. The best case for Hillary Clinton cannot be, and is not, that she isn’t Donald Trump.

The best case is, instead, about the challenges this country faces, and Mrs. Clinton’s capacity to rise to them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/opinion/sunday/hillary-clinton-for-president.html
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New York Times-HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2016 OP
k and r niyad Sep 2016 #1
k&r csziggy Sep 2016 #2
k&r Ruffhowse Sep 2016 #3
Exceptionally written underpants Sep 2016 #4
Hot diggity-dog! calimary Sep 2016 #8
Hillary has a foundation belief of governing to preserve our great nation, she has the Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #5
Trump need to be investigate for Treason with Putin lewebley3 Sep 2016 #13
K & R Scurrilous Sep 2016 #6
K & R onecent Sep 2016 #7
Woohoo! lillypaddle Sep 2016 #9
Home town newspaper mgardener Sep 2016 #10
This, and the NYT hasn't endorsed a Republican for president since Eisenhower. EL34x4 Sep 2016 #16
K&R! horseshoecrab Sep 2016 #11
I love the line in the first paragraph Hawaii Hiker Sep 2016 #12
Have they written the Trump's take down? Cannot wait to read it! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #25
Carl's Jr. and Brawndo endorsed Trump Rocknrule Sep 2016 #14
Massive K&R DarthDem Sep 2016 #15
K&R mcar Sep 2016 #17
Very good, but I disagree that "she's not Trump" might not be the Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2016 #18
I don't think it has to be "either-or" NastyRiffraff Sep 2016 #19
You're right, of course. It can be both. It's just that I'm having a hard time Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2016 #21
Exactly, a win for Trump would be a loss for basic human decency. radius777 Sep 2016 #22
KnR Hekate Sep 2016 #20
Whoohoo!!!!! lark Sep 2016 #23
Cream always rises to the top. lonestarnot Sep 2016 #24
...and the country should put her to work. Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #26

underpants

(182,826 posts)
4. Exceptionally written
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:01 PM
Sep 2016

Similarly, Mrs. Clinton’s occasional missteps, combined with attacks on her trustworthiness, have distorted perceptions of her character. She is one of the most tenacious politicians of her generation, whose willingness to study and correct course is rare in an age of unyielding partisanship. As first lady, she rebounded from professional setbacks and personal trials with astounding resilience. Over eight years in the Senate and four as secretary of state, she built a reputation for grit and bipartisan collaboration. She displayed a command of policy and diplomatic nuance and an ability to listen to constituents and colleagues that are all too exceptional in Washington.

calimary

(81,304 posts)
8. Hot diggity-dog!
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:51 PM
Sep 2016

AMAZING!

I'm always gobsmacked when I see some major news outlet echoing my own feelings (and the view of so many others, including those here). Sometimes I find myself thinking that we're just shouting into a thunderstorm and nobody can hear us. Write-ups like this tell me that sometimes WE can be - and have been - HEARD above that thunderstorm.

MOST gratifying.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. Hillary has a foundation belief of governing to preserve our great nation, she has the
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:11 PM
Sep 2016

qualification to make the decisions required of a president.

mgardener

(1,816 posts)
10. Home town newspaper
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 02:10 PM
Sep 2016

For Trump. They know what he is like and have been watching his dealings for years.
I look forward to what they uncover in the coming weeks.
Hillary is a newcomer to NY, but Trump was born, raised and lives here.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
16. This, and the NYT hasn't endorsed a Republican for president since Eisenhower.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:10 PM
Sep 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/09/23/opinion/presidential-endorsement-timeline.html?_r=0

I certainly didn't expect they'd endorse one this cycle. I don't think any reasonable person would.

I do predict Donald J. Trump receives the glowing endorsement of the National Enquirer and lukewarm endorsements from possibly the New York Post and maybe the National Review. And that'll be all.

Hawaii Hiker

(3,166 posts)
12. I love the line in the first paragraph
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 03:01 PM
Sep 2016

&quot We will explain in a subsequent editorial why we believe Mr. Trump to be the worst nominee put forward by a major party in modern American history)."

Trump is so fucking awful that it will take a separate editorial to show all the faults of this clown - LOL...

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
18. Very good, but I disagree that "she's not Trump" might not be the
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 04:40 PM
Sep 2016

best reason to vote for Clinton. The article does a good job of presenting a balanced view while highlighting key strengths.

In my view, however, Trump's negatives outweigh Clinton's positives by a huge margin.

I have my reservations about her, but to elevate Trump, the poster boy for all that decent men and women try very hard to teach their children not to be, to the office of President of the United States, would be to give every bully, cheat, and braggart the excuse, "Nothing wrong with my behavior, after all, over half the country voted for a guy like me to lead the country."

May as well do away with Kindergarten after that.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
19. I don't think it has to be "either-or"
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 08:01 PM
Sep 2016

We can point out how dangerous Trump would be in the White House while emphasizing Hillary's many strengths. Simply put, one would be terrible for thee country, one would be very good for it.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
21. You're right, of course. It can be both. It's just that I'm having a hard time
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 01:18 AM
Sep 2016

believing this Trump thing. When did so many Americans start finding smirking, crass, cheating bullies presidential? I'm guessing reality tv and Dubya softened them up to it, but still--seriously America?!!

radius777

(3,635 posts)
22. Exactly, a win for Trump would be a loss for basic human decency.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 01:28 AM
Sep 2016

That is what people are missing about election.

Many presidents have moral failings on the job, but they at least try (or give the appearance of trying) to be good people.

There are no such pretenses with Trump, who is loud and proud about his corrupt and ugly values.

How do parents raise their kids to have manners, if the president is somone like Trump?

How does society even hold itself together, as the deplorables become emboldened to do as they please?

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
26. ...and the country should put her to work.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 03:04 PM
Oct 2016
Through war and recession, Americans born since 9/11 have had to grow up fast, and they deserve a grown-up president. A lifetime’s commitment to solving problems in the real world qualifies Hillary Clinton for this job, and the country should put her to work.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/opinion/sunday/hillary-clinton-for-president.html



Oh Yeah! All of us deserve a grown-up president!!!
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