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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 11:10 AM Sep 2016

Eric Trump: Dad built his empire with "just about nothing" (other than that $1 million from Fred)

Below: video of Eric on Fox's "Outnumbered."



Donald Trump’s son Eric claimed Friday that his father built the Trump Organization from “just about nothing,” conveniently leaving out the fact that the GOP presidential nominee received significant investments and other support from his own father, real estate mogul Fred Trump.

Eric Trump was asked on Fox News’ “Outnumbered” why he thinks millennials would relate to his father.

“He’s been an entrepreneurial guy,” the younger Trump said. “He’s built an amazing company. He’s become the epitome of the American dream. He’s gone from just about nothing into, you know, a man who ...”

“Nothing? He got a million bucks,” said co-host Julie Roginsky, referencing a loan from Fred Trump to his son to build a hotel in the 1970s. “Wait, come on.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/eric-trump-just-about-nothing_us_57e56515e4b0e80b1ba1cf3e?section=&
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Eric Trump: Dad built his empire with "just about nothing" (other than that $1 million from Fred) (Original Post) Miles Archer Sep 2016 OP
$1 million is seed money wasn't the real thing he got lapfog_1 Sep 2016 #1
And eventually a good inheritance as well, right? bettyellen Sep 2016 #2
YUP lapfog_1 Sep 2016 #4
I thought I read somewhere there was an analysis. .. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2016 #15
According to Forbes a huge portion of it was inheritance not earnings anneboleyn Sep 2016 #23
Yes, all of that . . . years ago, while still young and hopeful, I'd read magazine articles Nay Sep 2016 #8
Other sources said Trump inherited hundreds of millions, and the "only one million" is not true anneboleyn Sep 2016 #16
Oh, yeah, and multiple one-million or x- million Sunny05 Sep 2016 #3
how many times did daddy, his brothers/sister bail him out? Gabi Hayes Sep 2016 #5
$1MM in 1970 is equal to $6.2MM today. It was a lot of $$$$. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. grossproffit Sep 2016 #6
Don't forget the intangibles: Donald has use of his father's name, his connections, his influence. TheBlackAdder Sep 2016 #7
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2016 #21
"just about nothing...." Avalux Sep 2016 #9
Thank you! Someone saying it bluntly, but the right way! They nauseate me, also. Divine Discontent Sep 2016 #31
anybody seen this? lots and lots of failure/bailout going on Gabi Hayes Sep 2016 #10
Sounds a lot like how Mitt got his start MiniMe Sep 2016 #11
,: onecaliberal Sep 2016 #12
Turns out too that it was a lot more than 1 mil., more like 14 mil. nt BootinUp Sep 2016 #13
TY, I was going to say, I posted the WSJ details of documents they researched showing it was at Divine Discontent Sep 2016 #25
and 885million in taxpayer subsidies, loans, etc. niyad Sep 2016 #14
rofl.... SummerSnow Sep 2016 #17
vacuous, yet evil spawn: Gabi Hayes Sep 2016 #18
Beavis and Butthead personified. nt Buns_of_Fire Sep 2016 #22
Daddy co-signed a lot of his loans. His "credit" was not strong enough to stand on its own GOLGO 13 Sep 2016 #19
see post 10 for details at link provided Gabi Hayes Sep 2016 #24
More than $ 1 million. no_hypocrisy Sep 2016 #20
This from his spawn that never had to apply for a job, wonder about the rent or his next meal... Hekate Sep 2016 #26
Did he mean no brains and no conscience? greatauntoftriplets Sep 2016 #27
Another insufferable spoiled brat. SunSeeker Sep 2016 #28
creepy WALLSTREET fucklets. pansypoo53219 Sep 2016 #29
The three eldest spawn of The Orange One are nasty pieces of work spiderpig Sep 2016 #30

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
1. $1 million is seed money wasn't the real thing he got
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 11:16 AM
Sep 2016

nothing to sneeze at... but the Donald also got his daddy's business contacts... and, as heir apparent to his daddy's real estate empire, he got in the door to meet with banksters and builders and brokers, all of whom would presume (rightly) that Donald would be backed in any deal he engaged in by his very rich dad.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
15. I thought I read somewhere there was an analysis. ..
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:04 PM
Sep 2016

... that he would have more money if he had invested his inheritance in an index fund. Of course that's based on estimates of his actual wealth not his own 10 billion bullshit figure

Nay

(12,051 posts)
8. Yes, all of that . . . years ago, while still young and hopeful, I'd read magazine articles
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 11:45 AM
Sep 2016

about supposedly 'bootstrapping entrepreneurs" --- that is, until I soon figured out that Ms Cookie Empire got a $500,000 'loan' from a rich uncle, or Mr Garage Monkey inherited a mil and started his auto biz, or Ms Coding Genius App Maker got an entree into the market thru her Microsoft daddy who gave her a thousand contacts.

After a few of these eye-openers, I would still read these sorts of articles, but the moment that the bootstrapper mentioned the loan/gift/inheritance/insurance settlement/genius daddy, I would stop reading. I can say that I never again got through one of those articles.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
16. Other sources said Trump inherited hundreds of millions, and the "only one million" is not true
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:07 PM
Sep 2016

Eric Trump is an absolute idiot -- he says the most ridiculous statements but of course he never gets called out on his total b.s.

I believe that Forbes even had an article about this -- they said if Trump had just invested the money he inherited from his father (hundreds of millions) that he'd be in the same position he is now financially.

Sunny05

(865 posts)
3. Oh, yeah, and multiple one-million or x- million
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 11:24 AM
Sep 2016

"loans" (or gifts) from his dad plus his inheritance and, I think he's s nephew's inheritance.

Oh, this is related but a different point. Ever notice how his bankruptcies happened after Ivana (who helped run business during their marriage) left? I'm no fan of any of them. But I am wondering if this is coincidence or if she is reason he didn't do even worse sooner.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
5. how many times did daddy, his brothers/sister bail him out?
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 11:25 AM
Sep 2016

to the tune of many millions?

and how much did he squeeze out of various governments in tax largesse....almost a billion, right?

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
9. "just about nothing...."
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 11:54 AM
Sep 2016

These crushingly privileged people haven't got a clue what it means to have nothing, or just about nothing.

They repulse me.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
31. Thank you! Someone saying it bluntly, but the right way! They nauseate me, also.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 11:12 PM
Sep 2016

Eric would cry in the streets if they lost all their money, because he has zero idea what it's like to have nothing. He proved it with his "almost nothing" BS comment. His dad received million after million after million after million in loans from his dad to keep afloat until he got enough deals going that he was afloat until he bankrupted it! lol

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
10. anybody seen this? lots and lots of failure/bailout going on
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:04 PM
Sep 2016
In 1972, Trump’s father brought him into a limited partnership that developed and owned a senior citizen apartment complex in East Orange, New Jersey. Fred Trump owned 75 percent, but two years later shrunk his ownership to 27 percent by turning over the rest of his stake to two entities controlled by his son. Another two years passed, and then Fred Trump named him the beneficiary of a $1 million trust that provided him with $1.3 million in income (2015 dollars) over the next five years. In 1978, he boosted his son’s fortunes again, hiring him as a consultant to help sell his ownership interest in a real estate partnership to the Grandcor Company and Port Electric Supply Corp. The deal was enormously lucrative for Donald Trump, particularly since it just fell into his lap thanks to his family. Under the deal, Grandcor agreed to pay him an additional $190,000, while Port Electric kicked in $228,500. (The payments were made over several years, but the value in present-day dollars on the final sum he received is $10.4 million.)

Soon Trump gained the public recognition he craved. Through a wholly owned corporation called Wembly Realty, Trump struck a partnership with a subsidiary of Hyatt Hotels. That partnership, Regency Lexington, purchased the struggling Commodore Hotel for redevelopment into the Grand Hyatt New York, a deal Trump crowed about when he announced he was running for president.

He failed to mention that this deal was once again largely attributable to Daddy, who co-guaranteed with Hyatt a construction loan for $70 million and arranged a credit line for his boy with Chase Manhattan Bank. The credit line was a favor to the Trump family, which had brought huge profits to the bank; according to regulatory records, the revolving loan was set up without even requiring a written agreement. Topping off the freebies and special deals that flowed Trump’s way, the city tossed in a 40-year tax abatement. Trump’s “success” with the Hyatt was simply the result of money from his dad, his dad’s bank, Hyatt and the taxpayers of New York City.


much much more at the story, by Kurt Eichenwald, who, along with David Cay Johnston and a few other biographers, would seem to know much more than is healthy for anybody to know:

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-failures-election-2016-486091.html

MiniMe

(21,717 posts)
11. Sounds a lot like how Mitt got his start
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:28 PM
Sep 2016

With a "loan" from his daddy. And that is how he thought everybody should get their start...ask for a loan from Mom and Dad. Of course, if your parents don't have that kind of money, you are SOL

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
25. TY, I was going to say, I posted the WSJ details of documents they researched showing it was at
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 09:03 PM
Sep 2016

least 14 million at one time owed (mid 80's), and his BS line about "small loan" is so comical when you realize that $1 in the mid 70's is more than $5 mil today! And he got well over $14 million in a several year span, plus all of his dad's business connections and backing him up, then all of the inheritance later!

The dude is the PROVERBIAL SILVER SPOON BABY!


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The document, a casino-license disclosure in 1985 by then-wife Ivana Trump, shows Mr. Trump taking out numerous loans from his father and his father’s properties near the start of his career in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

At the time of the disclosure, Mr. Trump owed his father and his father’s businesses about $14 million, according to the document.

Read more: http://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-father-helped-gop-candidate-with-numerous-loans-1474656573

no_hypocrisy

(46,121 posts)
20. More than $ 1 million.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 03:36 PM
Sep 2016

Fred bailed out his son when his casinos were on the verge of bankruptcy, skirting the gift tax each time.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
26. This from his spawn that never had to apply for a job, wonder about the rent or his next meal...
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 09:17 PM
Sep 2016

...had a free ride through college....

Oh, please spare me. My sides hurt from laughing.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
30. The three eldest spawn of The Orange One are nasty pieces of work
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 11:03 PM
Sep 2016

Is it because Ivana stayed married to the jerk long enough for him to put his thumbprint on their foreheads, while Marla bailed when Tiffany was a toddler?

Barron's only ten, and I dont envy the poor kid.

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