Trump says Syrian refugees aren't just a terrorist threat, they'd hurt quality of life

[Eugene]

Source: The Guardian

Trump says Syrian refugees aren't just a terrorist threat, they'd hurt quality of life

Comments marked new escalation in rhetoric warning of
the danger of admitting refugees into US as he addressed
issue of terrorism following bombing attacks

Ben Jacobs in Washington
Wednesday 21 September 2016 21.24 BST

Donald Trump on Wednesday described the threat posed by Syrian refugees as not “only a matter of terrorism, but also a matter of quality of life”.

The statement marked a new escalation of Trump’s rhetoric warning of the danger of admitting into the US Syrian refugees, whom he has repeatedly compared to the Trojan horse.

Trump’s remarks came at a rally in Toledo, Ohio, where the Republican nominee once again addressed the issue of terrorism in the aftermath of the bombing attacks in New York and New Jersey in the past week.

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Trump claimed: “Altogether, the Hillary Clinton plan would bring in 620,000 refugees in the first term. Her plan would cost $400bn in terms of lifetime welfare and entitlement costs – think of that.”

Both of these figures have been proven false by independent fact-checkers.

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/21/trump-syrian-refugees-terrorism-quality-life-bombing-attacks

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Also in GD 2016: Donald Trump compared Syrian refugees to poisonous snakes

[Matthew28]

1. Trump is a racist low life piece of scum

[bigwillq]

3. I don't agree with Trump

About them being terrorists or threats but I do not support bringing refugees from any country into the USA until every man, woman and child currently in the USA is housed, clothed, fed and bathed. The USA cannot take care of the folks already here. This country can not, and should not, take in anymore people until it can take care of the ones already here.

[democrattotheend]

4. Bullshit

There is a refugee crisis going on right now. As the world's only superpower, we have the responsibility to take the lead on this. We have always taken in refugees, though not nearly enough.

We have the resources to take care of everyone here if income were distributed more fairly and the top 1% did not pay such a low tax burden.

I am not sure it's the government's job to bathe every man, woman and child though. That sounds a little too nanny state even for me.

[bigwillq]

5. Then the USA needs to work on your good idea

of this:

We have the resources to take care of everyone here if income were distributed more fairly and the top 1% did not pay such a low tax burden.

Before allowing refugees in, imo.

[democrattotheend]

9. And where are they supposed to go in the meantime?

Do you not care about that? Do you not care about our moral obligations?

Refugee settlement aid is such a tiny fraction of the federal budget compared to defense spending and corporate welfare. Republicans deliberately "starve the beast" so that immigrants and native low wage workers fight over a small sliver of the pie while the fatcats suck up most of the resources. Don't fall into their trap.

If you want to talk about curbing immigration for economic reasons, fine. But to say we shouldn't take in refugees who have been driven from their homes until the government can feed, clothe, and bathe every American is pretty heartless, and I have to say, kind of Trumpian.

[bigwillq]

12. I care about all people

But the USA cannot save everyone when USA cannot even save itself.

USA is giving homes to people from other countries when so many in USA remain homeless. Help those already here first is all I am saying.

[madaboutharry]

7. If this was the policy when my grandparents

came to this country they along with my mother would have died in Nazi occupied Europe.

[bigwillq]

8. My ancestors probably would have died too

That's too bad.

But I still feel USA needs to take care of the folks already here. Start one job and finish it, and then move on to the next job. I am all for refugees coming to USA but only until the folks already here are provided for.

[GulfCoast66]

14. I will try to be polite

But this is very hypocritical. Because I can guarantee that when your ancestors arrived, no matter when it was the US did not have full employment, great housing for everyone, no hunger etc.

Sounds like if you were in charge we would need a huge wall to keep people out till all of our problems are solved. Because by extending your logic till it's logical conclusion, you do not want any immigration.

And let me guess, you also want all the undocumented folks here sent back home until all of our problems are solved?

[bigwillq]

15. If I were in charge, I would not let refugees in

If I were in charge, I would allow undocumented folks with no criminal record to stay in this country and apply for citizenship.

The undocumented folks are already here and, unless they were a criminal threat to this country, I don't think it makes any sense to send them back. I would let them stay.

They are already here, so they are already part of our problems that we need to fix. We need to get them housing, food, clothes, if needed, so I would try to help them get that.

[democrattotheend]

10. It mostly was our policy, and so many did die because of it

Think of how many more could have been saved from the Nazis if the US had not closed its borders. 75% of those on the St. Louis died because the US would not let them in.

[Ilsa]

18. I'm thinking what you said would apply to Trump's grandparents, maybe.

Weren't they immigrants? Surely they didn't arrive in the US with big bank accounts already.

[geek tragedy]

11. America First? nt

[bigwillq]

13. People already living in America first (nt)

[sinkingfeeling]

17. Disagree. This is the greatest humanitarian crisis of my lifetime and

you want the USA to sit it out? I hope you never use the phrases,
"Leader of the free world", "American exceptionalism", or "Shining light on the hill", or "Christian nation".

[treestar]

19. they are in a war zone

They've fled their homes. They have no home.

[bigwillq]

20. Many don't either in the USA

USA can't save everyone, sadly. I would like to see USA save the ones already in this country first.

[radius777]

21. Mostly agree. We should take in some but other countries should help out.

I think alot of the rise of Trump (and nationalism) has to do with a feeling that the rest of the world pushes all of the various problems and obligations on the US, and that the needs of American citizens are an afterthought to our leaders.

The reality is that immigration (legal and illegal) does put too much stress on the job market, entitlements, services etc.

In good times, when the economy is pumping, some immigration makes sense, but not in bad times. It only leads to tribalism, as everyone goes into 'survival mode' fighting for resources.

[bigwillq]

22. I think there is a belief by many, whether it is right or wrong,

to take care of "our own" first.

And I agree with your first paragraph to the point where I think many folks agree with it. Again, whether it's right or wrong, the belief is there. It can't be ignored.

[mainer]

6. They said it about the Irish and the Chinese and the Italians

and the Poles and the Jews and the Germans and just about every other immigrant group.

"They'll ruin our way of life."

[Madam45for2923]

16. Cannot wait for when we never have to listen to this person's opinions! We need to be free! Again!

Oh so good that moment!