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Eugene

(61,900 posts)
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 03:40 PM Sep 2016

Green party may try to ‘escort’ Jill Stein into the presidential debates

Source: The Guardian

Green party may try to ‘escort’ Jill Stein into the presidential debates

A Stein supporter is calling for volunteers to take part
in protest and civil disobedience in Hofstra, New York,
where the first debate is set for Monday


Lauren Gambino
Wednesday 21 September 2016 17.30 BST

The Green party may try to “escort” candidate Jill Stein into the presidential debates in an attempt to get her onstage, a campaign adviser announced on Wednesday.

Calling for volunteers to take part in protest and civil disobedience in Hofstra, New York, where the first debate is due to take place on Monday, Kevin Zeesa wrote on Stein’s website: “We may decide to have supporters attempt to escort our candidates (Stein and vice-presidential nominee Ajamu Baraka) into the debates. This situation may lead to arrest – it is possible but not definite. There will be actions you can take with us at Hofstra that do not risk arrest.”

He added: “Some people are signing up to risk arrest, others are coming for a no-arrest protest. Let us know if you want to participate in civil disobedience.”

The Commission on Presidential Debates announced on Friday that the third-party candidates Stein and Libertarian Gary Johnson had failed to qualify for the first debate.

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/21/green-party-jill-stein-presidential-debates-hofstra-new-york
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Green party may try to ‘escort’ Jill Stein into the presidential debates (Original Post) Eugene Sep 2016 OP
Losers nt geek tragedy Sep 2016 #1
Basically -- yes! If they try, they'll fail. Hortensis Sep 2016 #14
Did she ever clear up her other arrest warrent? SaschaHM Sep 2016 #2
That move should be a sure vote getter. oasis Sep 2016 #3
Yeah shenmue Sep 2016 #6
Lol. Right up there with crashing the Dem convention Hortensis Sep 2016 #44
Tone deaf Blue Idaho Sep 2016 #4
Blerg! DesertRat Sep 2016 #5
If they could not escort her to 15% in the national polls, they are not going to get her on stage. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2016 #7
Maybe they'll stage another "fart-in," Tanuki Sep 2016 #8
Save time. Arrest them now. nt onehandle Sep 2016 #9
Where will she stand with only two podiums? LiberalFighter Sep 2016 #10
The Secret Service will take care of that situation. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #11
that was my first thought too. Next issue, moving on. nt TeamPooka Sep 2016 #19
She should be escorted to a facility Maru Kitteh Sep 2016 #12
She's been running for president on the Green Party ticket for how many years now, and she can't politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #13
Has she ever got 1% in the polls??? alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #30
perhaps if she mercuryblues Sep 2016 #34
Yeah, that's going to work. Renew Deal Sep 2016 #15
Dr. Stein this isn't about you, this is about the Supreme Court, and decades of hardship that still_one Sep 2016 #16
Stein = Ralph Nader in drag Rocknrule Sep 2016 #17
jackasses n/t DemonGoddess Sep 2016 #18
derp. DawgHouse Sep 2016 #20
She planning on spraying graffiti on the lecterns? Skidmore Sep 2016 #21
I hope the Secret Service leftynyc Sep 2016 #22
Lather. Rinse. Repeat... SidDithers Sep 2016 #23
They might make some noise on the sidewalk outside, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2016 #24
No chance of this happening and they know it Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #25
Folks should do whatever they feel is right bigwillq Sep 2016 #26
"We demand entry!" "Nope." Game over. nolabear Sep 2016 #27
She is a brought and paid for spoiler kimbutgar Sep 2016 #28
Rove and Putin. Stein has some disgusting bedfellows. nt BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #32
Wait. There's a Green Party? alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #29
I'm sure the Secret Service will be thrilled Codeine Sep 2016 #31
The Green Party and all of its enablers are scum. BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #33
In the deck of cards that was the 2000 election, Ralph Nader was the joker Rocknrule Sep 2016 #35
"Won't someone PLEASE pay attention to me????" Godhumor Sep 2016 #36
Morons abound. nt MineralMan Sep 2016 #37
Lock her up! Scurrilous Sep 2016 #38
Oh that reminds me: hubby said he's changing his voter reg from Green back to Dem... Hekate Sep 2016 #39
You can do it online GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #40
This will get her back down to the more usual 0.4% quaker bill Sep 2016 #41
Jill SteinNader™ n/t VOX Sep 2016 #42
I am sure Trump and the republicans appreciate all the help workinclasszero Sep 2016 #43

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Basically -- yes! If they try, they'll fail.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 04:06 PM
Sep 2016

There're many reasons why they can't move off the fringe, but they all start with the dysfunctions of those who find their way there and their lack of what it takes to consistently succeed in achieving goals.

Every time I think about them, I just wish we could purchase the party name "Green." It was once meant to rally people to fight for a sustainable planet.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
7. If they could not escort her to 15% in the national polls, they are not going to get her on stage.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 03:50 PM
Sep 2016

The green party needs to address the problems at its Grassroots before trying to be the biggest leaf at the top of the tree.

LiberalFighter

(50,950 posts)
10. Where will she stand with only two podiums?
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 03:56 PM
Sep 2016

What will she do when the moderator ignores her?

How will she speak without a mic that works?

What will she look like when the cameras do show her?

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
13. She's been running for president on the Green Party ticket for how many years now, and she can't
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 04:04 PM
Sep 2016

muster up 15% in the polls. At the most she's polling at 4%. The rules for the Debate have been known for more than a year, now. She had the entire primary season all to herself, and failed to get the requisite 15% in the polls so she has no one to blame but herself and the Green Party. If they aren't 15% of the population, then they aren't a political party. If no one knows who she is, it's her own fault. It also wouldn't be fair to the 17 other members of the GOP and Bernie Sanders who campaigned for a year and a half to let these Johnny-come-lately's bully their way onto the debate platform. How many people knew who Barrack Hussein Obama was before 2004?

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
34. perhaps if she
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 06:18 PM
Sep 2016

had spent that time building up the party from the ground, instead of just trying to syphon support away from Dems I would take her seriously.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
16. Dr. Stein this isn't about you, this is about the Supreme Court, and decades of hardship that
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 04:21 PM
Sep 2016

a trump presidency would exert on our country for decades to come

This is about the right to privacy between a person and her doctor, the reversal of citizen's united, halting the further disintegration of the civil rights act which been slowly eroding since the eighties, and so much more.

What do you expect to accomplish? The fact is either Hillary or trump will be the next president, and the next president will select at least the next two Supreme Court appointments, perhaps even a third. The damage a trump presidency is terrifying.

Your predecessor Ralph Nader had that same mindset in 2000, and that resulted in Alito. Nader won enough votes in two states, Florida and New Hampshire, that if that support went to Gore, it would have put those states into Gore's column. Even without Florida, adding Nader's 4% of the New Hampshire vote to Gore's 47% would have give Gore victory in the electoral college.

The consequence were a disaster in 2000, and they will be unrecoverable if trump wins.

Even though Dr. Stein's influence is not as great as Nader's in 2000, that 2% could possibly make all the difference.

Grow up Dr. Stein, drop out and endorse the Democratic nominee



JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
24. They might make some noise on the sidewalk outside, ...
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 05:18 PM
Sep 2016

... and a little of it might get on television. Maybe that's a victory, in some small way.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
25. No chance of this happening and they know it
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 05:31 PM
Sep 2016

but their mission here was just to whore for attention, and the Guardian happily obliges...

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
26. Folks should do whatever they feel is right
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 05:36 PM
Sep 2016

and to stand up (or sit or kneel) for what they believe in.

That's democracy. That's freedom. That's America.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
27. "We demand entry!" "Nope." Game over.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 05:37 PM
Sep 2016

What do they think they're going to do, for Chrissake? Jill Stein is not going to storm any barricades.

kimbutgar

(21,163 posts)
28. She is a brought and paid for spoiler
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 05:49 PM
Sep 2016

Someone is supporting her campaign, I think Putin is giving her money to help cheeto

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
33. The Green Party and all of its enablers are scum.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 06:13 PM
Sep 2016

Fuck 'em. They should keep their pathetic temper tantrums out of our politics.

Or maybe try to win local, state, or federal office ANYWHERE before demanding the Presidency like the spoiled brats that they are.

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
35. In the deck of cards that was the 2000 election, Ralph Nader was the joker
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 06:20 PM
Sep 2016

Stein is setting herself up to be the same thing.

Jill Stein 2016: Healing crystals and Cherokee hair tampons for everyone!

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
39. Oh that reminds me: hubby said he's changing his voter reg from Green back to Dem...
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 10:15 PM
Sep 2016

Must remember to go pick him up a new form when I get over this bug.

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