2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCharles P. Pierce: I Will Never Stop Hating This Election for Normalizing Stupid
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a48795/trump-election-normalizing-stupid/I Will Never Stop Hating This Election for Normalizing Stupid
And Drew Magary has a point.
By Charles P. Pierce
Sep 21, 2016
We now have another expedition up the river into the heart of the Trumplandia and, before we take a look at the report these plucky adventurers have sent back, let us note for the record that, at a church in Cleveland on Wednesday morning, the Republican presidential candidate was endorsed by a convicted killer who felt free to drop n-bombs on the audience to the apparent delight of El Caudillo del Mar-A-Lago. The killer, it should be noted, was introduced in the church by Mike Pence, whose Christian faith is unshakable, according to those people who believe the gospels are sales manuals.
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Half the country is buying this carny act. If you want to see why, check out Mother Jones' dispatch about that particular half of the country. And, can I suggest to cable TV bookers that, if you want an informed opinion on the "alt-right" or whatever it is that we're calling extremists these days, you might want to ditch, say, Matthew Dowd in favor of Dave Neiwert, who's been working the beat for over 20 years.
Yeah, but it's Hillary Rodham Clinton's association with Sid Blumenthal that's the real scandal in this election. If that isn't enough, check out the survey that The Daily Show's Jordan Klepper did in which folks attending a Trump rally were asked to describe their favorite conspiracy theories.
Via SplitSider:
I'm sure that believing that the president is a Muslim and was somehow involved in the 9/11 attacks are merely the public expression of economic insecurity, although I'm damned if I can figure out why.
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Or, you can follow the logic of this piece in The Nation which, I confess, is of an intellectual level I cannot attain.
No kidding. I will never stop hating this election for the incredible deluge of Stupid it has loosed upon the country. It is the pure product of the forces driving the Trump campaign in concert with the attempt to make sense of it without accounting for the pure hate without which that campaign would not exist at all. There is nothing worthwhile about it. It does not raise serious questions with which the country must grapple. It is merely a giant loogie hocked at people whom most Trump supporters have been trained over 40 years to hate.
Or, as Ross Cardinal Douthat suggests, you can blame Samantha Bee. God, he wants to be one of those people in the red ballcaps so very badly, it fairly drips from every sentence. Moron envy is not attractive in a fellow of his education.
Me? I'm with Magary.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)regardless of the word, that pretty much means nothing. its the kind of stuff Trump voters say to convince themselves they're the patriots.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)I don't trust anything he says.
babylonsister
(171,074 posts)Weren't we supposed to get over ourselves?
shenmue
(38,506 posts)oasis
(49,392 posts)She's the founder of the low information movement.
hibbing
(10,098 posts)oasis
(49,392 posts)Bush just failed to process information.
hatrack
(59,587 posts)Key difference.
She'd probably spell it "also to".
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)against Democrats. Over decades now, when called upon to support more and more egregious candidates and extremist policies, to justify abandoning principles and keeping lower and lower company , a majority of conservatives responded by demonizing Democrats to the point that they can believe their duty is to stop them at all costs. That nothing is worse than what Democrats would do to the nation. All information that contradicts that picture is denied.
I once hoped Trump would define bottom for the conservative half of this nation, that significant numbers would say "hell, no!" At this point only perhaps 10% of the usual electorate are.
I now believe there is no bottom for most of the others, nothing so bad that in a fever of partisanship they would not refuse to believe the truth about it, nothing so bad that they wouldn't demonize the opposition to whatever degree it takes to justify their behavior.
We're going to win, but Trump will not lose by the huge numbers decency and even just duty to one's family requires. We need to recognize that it really could happen here and that this is how it would happen. Trump is not the worst the right can come up with, by a long shot. He's far too incompetent to be the worst. Pence is famously stupid, but obedient. I even fear him more. And he's not the worst.
adigal
(7,581 posts)Christian in the tag lines.,then say horrible vile things like calling me an old lady (I'm 54) and a "hoe." (Sic)
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)disapproval of bad people like you. "Old lady." Lol. Seems a little conflicted -- hurl the insult of age without completely discarding old-fashioned manners?
adigal
(7,581 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)any sense out of the things they say and do. None of them practice what they preach, least of all their Orange Leader.
SFierro2004
(11 posts)It's like Americans learned nothing from the 8 disastrous years of GWB. And now they want to elect an orange-skinned psycho? Lord help us!
And the mainstream media is all too eager to help that loudmouthed buffoon actually win. Simply disgusting.
sarae
(3,284 posts)of all the worst suspicions and stereotypes about "Americans" as seen by the global community for a long time now. It feels like we are truly watching Idiocracy unfold.
Everyone is so polarized - Liberals vs Conservatives, white vs non-whites, men vs women, etc.
If Trump wins (god forbid!), I motion that we change our name to The Divided States. Under a Trump administration, said name is much more fitting.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)They are ignorant, racist, brutes who seek to beat anyone who is no their Mengle-ite clone into the ground. They are garbage, they are the offspring of the Nazis.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Make no mistake: I want Trump to lose this election. But progressives should not support Clinton.
These bastards will vote for the Putins employee Jill Stein and feel all superior if Hillary falls to the fascist Trump.
So who is worse?
A brainwashed Fox news/Hate radio knuckle dragger or an "educated" hardcore leftist who helps Trump get elected???
Hekate
(90,714 posts)...of so many of my fellow Americans.
adigal
(7,581 posts)And from what some of my students now feel free to say in class, it's not going to die with these old white people. They've infected their young.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Trump just a more stupid, obnoxious version of them
First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...as a liberal Christian, all I can say in that situation is: God help us...
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)wiggs
(7,814 posts)facts established and stipulated. One candidate just wants a pissing contest and the media gives it coverage 24/7.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)He's done by far some of the best analysis of this election.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Trump is just the rock-bottom result of the final domino falling...