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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 07:37 AM Sep 2016

Pam Houston: "I'm officially done with the "she's so flawed but she is the lesser of two evils"

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"I'm officially done with the "she's so flawed but she is the lesser of two evils" rhetoric. Cause, you know, I'm flawed. And you are flawed. And Bernie Sanders is flawed and Barack Obama is flawed and even Michelle Obama is flawed. But the difference between all of them and me--and probably you, is that they have all given their flawed lives to public service. And now, they are all working together in their inevitably flawed ways, to save all of us, and the whole world from a sociopathic narcissist. And every day, Hillary puts a hopefully unflawed bullet proof vest on her flawed and aging and sometimes unsmiling self and stands up in front of people who have been incited by her opponent to shoot her, and she says calm and rational and intelligent (and sometimes flawed) things about how to make a difference. In my book that makes her a fucking rock star. And in the words of another flawed and resilient rock star: There is a crack in everything. That's where the light gets in."

https://www.facebook.com/pam.houston.792/posts/10155369016254498?pnref=story

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Pam Houston: "I'm officially done with the "she's so flawed but she is the lesser of two evils" (Original Post) ehrnst Sep 2016 OP
Hillary is indeed a rock star C_U_L8R Sep 2016 #1
great statement-- where's it from? Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #2
AMEN Zoonart Sep 2016 #8
I occasionally use that phrase as one of my signature lines. randome Sep 2016 #14
Leonard turns 82 today! radiclib Sep 2016 #30
Thank You for the memory, ... CRH Sep 2016 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author mark67 Sep 2016 #3
When you speak of flawed there is Bush and Bush and Reagan and Nixon rurallib Sep 2016 #4
As an adamant Bernie supporter retrowire Sep 2016 #5
I am sick of the violence Trump is fomenting callous taoboy Sep 2016 #6
Even in the NYC area it is bad. I ask people why they are angry or seek to intimidate.... bettyellen Sep 2016 #26
I've been tired of it Coolest Ranger Sep 2016 #7
Loving the whole quote! Madam45for2923 Sep 2016 #9
If they vote for HRC, I don't care if they curse her name. aikoaiko Sep 2016 #10
it is bullshit and republicans have VERY effectively Cosmocat Sep 2016 #11
My only regret is that I have but 1 rec to give this post. Amimnoch Sep 2016 #12
Source? Shanti Mama Sep 2016 #13
She's a FB friend of a friend who posted this. ehrnst Sep 2016 #19
Link to the original FB post by Pam ehrnst Sep 2016 #20
She's a FB friend of mine too. Pam is an amazing writer and only recently took up the mantle. nolabear Sep 2016 #27
Remarkable strength matelize Sep 2016 #15
Well said! ffr Sep 2016 #28
Welcome to DU, matelize! calimary Sep 2016 #31
Thank you. The "Nothing-But-The-Best-For-The-Oppressed" DinahMoeHum Sep 2016 #16
Well said! Nitram Sep 2016 #17
I'm still for the smartest motherfucker in the room. lonestarnot Sep 2016 #18
That she is. For sure. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2016 #21
Yep, sick of all the false equivalency. MatthewStLouis Sep 2016 #22
Love. So true. ananda Sep 2016 #23
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2016 #24
When people say to you, "I just don't trust Hillary", make them an offer world wide wally Sep 2016 #25
It's conditioning. calimary Sep 2016 #33
Post removed Post removed Sep 2016 #29
"hopefully unflawed bullet proof vest" that part sent chills. but, with der drumpfenfuhrer niyad Sep 2016 #32
Thank You! nevergiveup Sep 2016 #34
Excellent!!! lunamagica Sep 2016 #35
I'm flawed. And you are flawed. And Bernie Sanders is flawed and Barack Obama is flawed and ... AlbertCat Sep 2016 #36
Love this. thucythucy Sep 2016 #37
that's not the difference between them and me hfojvt Sep 2016 #38
Thanks for this good piece of writing. It's rather dismaying that some don't seem to get it... Hekate Sep 2016 #39
At Last! Merryline Sep 2016 #40
She is the author of "Cowboys are my Weakness" womanofthehills Sep 2016 #42
It's a shame the so many are so early duped. Jakes Progress Sep 2016 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author MisterFred Sep 2016 #43
Michelle Obama is not flawed! mdbl Sep 2016 #44

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
1. Hillary is indeed a rock star
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 07:39 AM
Sep 2016

Do you know anyone so accomplished? So capable.
Who also keeps it real? So glad we're with her.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
14. I occasionally use that phrase as one of my signature lines.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 09:20 AM
Sep 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)
[/center][/font][hr]

CRH

(1,553 posts)
45. Thank You for the memory, ...
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 07:29 AM
Sep 2016

I have never seen this particular version. Incredible in a way Leonard Cohen and few others, find the grace in living.
Thanks again.

Response to ehrnst (Original post)

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
4. When you speak of flawed there is Bush and Bush and Reagan and Nixon
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 08:07 AM
Sep 2016

some pretty scurrilous dudes that were lousy presidents

Certainly FDR, JFK and LBJ were flawed and were damn good presidents.

No one has ever been under a microscope like Hillary for 30 years. Every minor defect is blown into a catastrophic flaw.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
5. As an adamant Bernie supporter
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 08:10 AM
Sep 2016

Who is following his lead to vote for her...

This statement rocked my boat, in a good way.

Good post.

callous taoboy

(4,585 posts)
6. I am sick of the violence Trump is fomenting
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 08:14 AM
Sep 2016

and the fear I have of expressing my support of Democrats because of the deplorables and their moronic use of violence and intimidation. Trump is a sick individual, as are many of his supporters.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
26. Even in the NYC area it is bad. I ask people why they are angry or seek to intimidate....
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 11:17 AM
Sep 2016

Some are completely irrational, none have answers.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
7. I've been tired of it
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 08:27 AM
Sep 2016

and I hear it from a lot of young people and those who can afford to throw away their vote

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
9. Loving the whole quote!
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 08:53 AM
Sep 2016
Pam Houston: "I'm officially done with the "she's so flawed but she is the lesser of two evils"

"I'm officially done with the "she's so flawed but she is the lesser of two evils" rhetoric. Cause, you know, I'm flawed. And you are flawed. And Bernie Sanders is flawed and Barack Obama is flawed and even Michelle Obama is flawed. But the difference between all of them and me--and probably you, is that they have all given their flawed lives to public service. And now, they are all working together in their inevitably flawed ways, to save all of us, and the whole world from a sociopathic narcissist. And every day, Hillary puts a hopefully unflawed bullet proof vest on her flawed and aging and sometimes unsmiling self and stands up in front of people who have been incited by her opponent to shoot her, and she says calm and rational and intelligent (and sometimes flawed) things about how to make a difference. In my book that makes her a fucking rock star. And in the words of another flawed and resilient rock star: There is a crack in everything. That's where the light gets in."

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
10. If they vote for HRC, I don't care if they curse her name.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 08:53 AM
Sep 2016

I can live with people who say "she's so flawed but she is the lesser of two evils".

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
11. it is bullshit and republicans have VERY effectively
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 09:05 AM
Sep 2016

managed to make democrats embarrassed to support their candidate for POTUS.

We have to be smarter than that, and tougher, too.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
12. My only regret is that I have but 1 rec to give this post.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 09:06 AM
Sep 2016


I'll definitely take a few "flaws" over pure destructive dark evil.

Shanti Mama

(1,288 posts)
13. Source?
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 09:12 AM
Sep 2016

I've googled and can't find any reference to this. Would love to send it to some friends, but need to validate. Not that they'll value Pam Houston's opinion, but I think her words are great and I want to make sure she really said them.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
19. She's a FB friend of a friend who posted this.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 09:43 AM
Sep 2016

I've got a message into her now asking where I might link.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
27. She's a FB friend of mine too. Pam is an amazing writer and only recently took up the mantle.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 11:23 AM
Sep 2016

It's been interesting to see people who typically aren't tremendously political on FB have it up to HERE and come out in support.

matelize

(19 posts)
15. Remarkable strength
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 09:21 AM
Sep 2016

What a terrific post. To get up and face this barrage of lies and insults day in and day out, and still push forward with her positive message is beyond courageous. She has had to fight comments from a demented opponent, as well as the undeserved negative press who have been relentless in trying to take her down.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
28. Well said!
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 11:40 AM
Sep 2016

And welcome to DU!

For my own part, all the false negativity being spewed and repeated by the RW talking machine just doesn't stick, because it is without merit. I don't know how she does it day after day, having to fight falsehoods, but it doesn't phase her. She does all this and continues to give give give with her time.

Meanwhile we have her opponent who has done what with his time? Nothing. He's given nothing. He only understands take, take, take. The only way to prop up someone so selfish in their endeavors is for the media to make up some false analogy that somehow the giver and the taker are equal. Sorry. Not even close. Hillary is a rock star!

calimary

(81,322 posts)
31. Welcome to DU, matelize!
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 12:44 PM
Sep 2016

Thank you for this! I love this post, too.

I LOVE that the original author noticed - what Hillary has to face EVERY day. The media already hard-wired to distrust her and paint her negatively (Hello Andrea Mitchell) and accentuate the negative EVERY DAMN TIME!!!

THIS was a really great find, although it's from earlier this month. It singles out the NYTimes but the same scolding has been earned by ALL of the mainstream media lemmings:

The Times uniquely, though only as a leading example for the rest of the national press, has a decades' long history of being lead around by rightwing opposition researchers into dead ends which amount to journalistic comedy - especially when it comes to the Clintons. But here, while all this is happening we have a real live specimen example of direct political and prosecutorial corruption, misuse of a 501c3 nonprofit and various efforts to conceal this corruption and the underlying corruption of Trump's 'Trump University' real estate seminar scam. It's all there - lightly reported here and there - but largely ignored.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/you-failed-chumps



DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
16. Thank you. The "Nothing-But-The-Best-For-The-Oppressed"
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 09:33 AM
Sep 2016

attitude among too many who would vote 3rd party in their selfish self-righteousness is
frankly, fuckingly irksome.

MatthewStLouis

(904 posts)
22. Yep, sick of all the false equivalency.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 10:12 AM
Sep 2016

I think false equivalency is a right wing voter suppression tool. They want people to think nothing will change and it just doesn't matter. What a crock! Look at actual policy and what each candidate says they are going to do. Trump tells us to trust how great he is, while Hillary has an actual plan. And it's pretty damn progressive, but don't expect the media to ever cover it.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
25. When people say to you, "I just don't trust Hillary", make them an offer
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 11:15 AM
Sep 2016

Tell them that for every lie she has told that they can name, you will give them 5 Trump lies. If you have a decent memory, make it 10.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
33. It's conditioning.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 01:01 PM
Sep 2016

They can't tell you what the lies are. They've just heard it over and over - "she lies, she can't be trusted, she has a trust problem with voters, she has bad numbers on trustworthiness..." Well???? What do you expect when every second sentence in every intro to every segment on every show, EVERY time the topic is Hillary v Trump? You KEEP HEARING this shit to the point where it's kinda driven in. And the incessant repetition just drives it home again and again and again until you're conditioned to take it for granted.

WHEN do they start reporting on things like this?

http://www.attn.com/stories/10483/chart-compares-presidential-candidates-honesty

And when does something like the above article start being emphasized?

I'm still stunned that the major media has now decided, FINALLY (!), AT LONG LAST (!!!!!), to use the word "lie" to label something that actually is, provably and demonstrably, a lie. As in most of what Trump says on any given hour of any given day. His trying to push birtherism off on the Hillary campaign was just a little too much to leave alone, I guess. Stunk SO bad even the NYTimes and other major media apologists and accomplices and other cover-up artists finally couldn't take the stench anymore. They'd FINALLY met the straw that broke their camel's back.

But look how long it's taken. They've finally decided to step away from their protective routine of tiptoeing around any GOP/CONservative lies. Anybody remember the wussy flaccid headline "Prevaricating President?" They couldn't bring themselves to declare flat-out that george w dry-drunk was lying. I guess Trump just hit the trip-wire for these lazy lice. Finally stunk up the joint too bad even for them.

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niyad

(113,350 posts)
32. "hopefully unflawed bullet proof vest" that part sent chills. but, with der drumpfenfuhrer
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 12:46 PM
Sep 2016

at least twice openly calling for her assassination, I do hope she is wearing one. I pray for her safety every single day, along with her staff and ss detail.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
36. I'm flawed. And you are flawed. And Bernie Sanders is flawed and Barack Obama is flawed and ...
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 07:50 PM
Sep 2016

Uh... we know that.

But some flawed people make better decisions than other flawed people.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
38. that's not the difference between them and me
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 10:08 PM
Sep 2016

I have given my life to public service. I know some won't believe that, perhaps especially here, but I really have.

One major difference between them and me - I have NOT become rich and famous because of all of my years of public "service".

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
39. Thanks for this good piece of writing. It's rather dismaying that some don't seem to get it...
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 10:56 PM
Sep 2016

....but you have gotten over 150 Recs so far.

Merryline

(5 posts)
40. At Last!
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 11:11 PM
Sep 2016

Don't know who you are, Pam Houston, and yet I am forever in your debt: Your post is so terrific!
I was yelling with joy as I read it, and then burst into tears as I finished it. Thank you for such a
cathartic experience.

Warmest regards,

Merryline

womanofthehills

(8,718 posts)
42. She is the author of "Cowboys are my Weakness"
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 11:28 PM
Sep 2016

among other books. She is a strong, funny, athletic woman who writes about her many wilderness experiences.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
41. It's a shame the so many are so early duped.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 11:12 PM
Sep 2016

This is a great post. Powerful language and images.

Those who burp up the "she's so flawed" meme have no will or mind of their own. Therefore they are owned by the shiniest lie told to them.

Barack has said it over and over. She is the most qualified person ever to run for president. She may not be the best campaigner or most magnetic personality, but no one seems more decent or more prepared.

Oh yeah. She's a rock star all right.

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