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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:42 PM Sep 2016

Don't waste time arguing with Trump supporters.

That does no good at all. Instead, find people who aren't planning to vote and tell them why Hillary should be President. That might accomplish something worthwhile.

Thanks for reading this.

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JHB

(37,161 posts)
1. Caveat: Use "arguing" with them to get to people you can reach
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:31 PM
Sep 2016

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Know who your audience is, and it's not the bricks who love Ding Dong Don. If that's all you're facing, save your breath. But if you can use them as a foil, use them to make some progress with "moderate Republicans" who're holding their nose.

Use the cranks to remind the others just how many "Clinton scandals" never actually amounted to much, were just turdballs Republicans threw for the sake of throwing turdballs. And how that strategy turned into a business model thanks to the same sort of gullible dopes who put Trump on top.

Argue with a sTrumpet when you can do it to make an audience feel like dopes without attacking them directly.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
3. Argue with them online where other people are reading, though
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:57 PM
Sep 2016

And post links to videos of contractors Trump ripped off. Not only will it quickly shut the Trump supporter up, it will show everyone else reading it why NOT to vote for the douche canoe.

Helpful tools to silence Trump supporters

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/debunking-anti-hillary-clinton-myths-lies-conspiracies/
http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/10/21/a-comprehensive-guide-to-myths-and-facts-about/206289
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/




Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
4. Ask people "Will you be the last person to support Trump when everyone sees the light?"
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:19 PM
Sep 2016

Those who say you are nuts are lost causes.

Those who say "what do you mean 'see the light'?" are swayable. Hook them with the bandwagon effect.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
7. I generally don't try.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:15 PM
Sep 2016

One would actually have some type of real world perception to even begin to grasp the issues. Trump supporters don't have that.

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
8. Try posting this post on other media a picture is worth 1000 words.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:17 PM
Sep 2016

Teenage future Trump supporters. Their 50th anniversary is coming up at a local Trump rally. Make America Great Again means to them the right to pour sugar on minorities. A scene from the future movie “The Deplorables”.

gordianot

(15,240 posts)
9. Arguing does no good however it is good to know how they think.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:24 PM
Sep 2016

They may live next door, you may have done business with them in the past. All Trump supporters deserve to be cautiously watched now and in the future.

phallon

(260 posts)
11. Politics are so vital and urgent now
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:45 PM
Sep 2016

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"This is not the time for a protest vote, in terms of a presidential campaign," Sanders said. "I ran as a third-party candidate. I'm the longest-serving independent in the history of the United States Congress. I know more about third-party politics than anyone else in the Congress, okay? And if people want to run as third-party candidates, God bless them! Run for Congress. Run for governor. Run for state legislature. When we're talking about president of the United States, in my own personal view, this is not time for a protest vote. This is time to elect Hillary Clinton and then work after the election to mobilize millions of people to make sure she can be the most progressive president she can be."
Bernie Sanders

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
13. My husband turned someone today.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:49 PM
Sep 2016

She was going to vote for Trump. There were a lot of things she did not know about him. She followed my husband into Hillary headquarters, took some literature, and listened to people there.

It was interesting that the two people she listened to most were men. She thought Clinton supporters were mostly older women.

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
14. The hardcore Bernie-or-Busters piss me off even more than Trump supporters
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:56 PM
Sep 2016

At least some Trump supporters (like my dad) aren't gun-waving bigots, just grossly misinformed and genuinely think they're doing this country a service by voting for the Cheeto. BOB-ers are deliberately trying to fuck us all by enabling a Trump victory just to "send a message". And most of them have nothing to lose because they're white and have affluent parents, but they're perfectly willing to offer up other Americans on the sacrificial altar of their little revolution. Their attitude is "I got mine, fuck everyone else" and it makes them no different than Republicans.

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