2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhiteTara
(29,718 posts)will put my house up for sale and leave.
What are yours?
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)where are you leaving to?
WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)that the huge influx of Americans have jacked up prices and tensions between the locals and the expats.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I've been to 53 counties throughout the world and the United States is wonderful warts and all.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)by then hadn't done too much harm. I figure that'd be more than enough time for an alarmed populace to vote to block them in Congress. Notorious RBG would die in office before she resigned, and perhaps others.
As for our grandsons and possible wars as they come of age, one set of parents is fairly well connected and heeled and should be able to avoid a draft. The other grandson has dual Danish citizenship through his mother. That's my major worry, although major, devastating strikes on America's infrastructure would be possible.
I've been wondering, though, what if conservatives aren't hitting bottom yet with Trump/Pence? After all, nobody thought their nice neighbors could be anywhere near crazy enough to vote for them, yet at least 50 million will, or rather vote against the devil Democrats.
What if the factions Trump empowered, funded by, say, the Koch alliance, were able to put in a COMPETENT, CHARISMATIC version of Trump with the help of our conservative neighbors who have become hard wired to vote for anything against Democrats?
We're going to elect Hillary and never have to know. I once thought W was bottom for mindfucked conservatives, though...
Union Label
(545 posts)What country would let us in if that asshole was President?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)since the stock market will dive. I'll live frugally on the cash, maybe invest overseas.
Maybe take up robbing banks. I'll either get some cash to supplement my savings, or if caught, will have room and board for a while.
get the red out
(13,466 posts)Move the money from my mutual funds so I don't lose all of my retirement in the Trump crash.
Then I will just hope THEY don't come and torch our whole neighborhood for being racially diverse.
marybourg
(12,633 posts)to manage to do this BRFORE all the rest of us and beat out the crash? Please let me know 'cause I want to do it too.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)With any luck at all, it will take most people until January to decide they should sell.
marybourg
(12,633 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)on November 8. I doubt it.
Actually, I doubt even more highly that Trump will win, but if he does, we'll have notice in the form of the polls. It would come as a total shock.
marybourg
(12,633 posts)The day before? The Friday before? A week before? And yes. A huge selloff can take place in one trading day, but like you I don't think Trump will win, but the question posed was what . . if. . .?)
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)I wouldn't plan to sell everything all at once. I'd make plans about how to spend the money, and chances are I'd do some foreign investing, and not actually have everything in cash.
Other than that, I have no intention of giving away any more specifics.
marybourg
(12,633 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)get the red out
(13,466 posts)I hope the crash isn't immediate, at least not all the way. I doubt everyone has paid as much attention to what his election would mean economically as people on DU have.
trof
(54,256 posts)"Do you have an emergency response plan just in case Cheetos wins?"
Paladin
(28,264 posts)Kittycow
(2,396 posts)Worried for my SSDI and watching carefully if my husband's OTR trucker career will be affected.
ETA: if I was much younger and healthy, I'd get out.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Stop identifying as an American, instead will identify as a New Yorker and future ex-pat.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Ugh. The whole prospect of the thing is so dismal.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)There is a deep, moral rot in the heart of most white voters, and it's been really disturbing to see it unleashed in this campaign.
Laffy Kat
(16,383 posts)Learning Spanish right now. I'm outta here.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)Then hiding in my closet for four years.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Mz Pip
(27,451 posts)If Trump wins the ramifications will be global. Might as well stay put.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)I work for a global company, I can apply for a job in Canada and they'll take care of my work Visa.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)Keep 'em coming!
shrike
(3,817 posts)Like others on this thread I'll be pulling every penny I have out of the market; the global ones are going to go crazy if Trump wins. I, too, will stop commenting on politics on-line. It'll be rainbows and puppy videos for me from then on.
If my personal situation ever changes I'll be out of here. Sad that it would take the death of the LOML, but that's the way it is.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)I'm retired. I have no obligations here anymore.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)That's overwrought drama queen silliness.
Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)Many of us are serious as hell, actually. Mr. Maru and I have the paperwork ready to go. If this country wants Chump they can have him. I want no part of living in a country that would choose a white nationalist for POTUS.
YMMV
catbyte
(34,403 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I too like to pretend concern is merely "overwrought drama queen silliness," as it certainly is a self-validating mechanism to better stroke our own biases when no one else will...
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)..
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I'll be fighting with you.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Actually none of those.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)Hawaii Hiker
(3,166 posts)I think I'd find that island Tom Hanks was stranded on in the above mentioned movie and stay there (with or without the volleyball)
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Pay someone to properly shatter my kneecap so they can't do some fuck-about call me back into the military out of medical retirement, get higher, expatriate to Ireland with a software engineering degree and a 60k euro job out the gate.
Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)Not leaving. Not giving up. I aim to misbehave.
Runningdawg
(4,520 posts)The only move we are considering is out of the city and back to tribal land. That was going to happen anyhow, now it will come quicker.
Mme. Defarge
(8,034 posts)PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)No other choice. I survived Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes, we'll manage.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Who can't explain why he couldn't get anything done, assuming any admit to voting for the madman.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)Until that happens, though, I'll spend my time verbally assaulting every Jill Stein voter dumb enough to brag about it.
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LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Only responding bc this is currently kicked.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Being Jewish, I will seriously consider moving to Israel. Too many relatives died in Europe.
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)He's a walking disaster.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)I qualify for citizenship recovery under the current program, though I might have to give up US citizenship. I'd have to look into that aspect and decide if it's worth it.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Although a bullet to the back of the head wouldn't really surprise me.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)kennetha
(3,666 posts)fight to restore the constitution and the rule of law!
I mean this is the Democratic UNDERGROUND. We'd have to earn the right to call ourselves that in Trump's America.
Greywing
(1,124 posts)Although I joke about some place else looking pretty good, I'll not leave my country in the hands of a wanna be dictator and the alt-right. I'll be pulling out some Thomas Paine, rereading Adams, Jefferson and Franklin and be ready to go!
blueseas
(11,575 posts)Politics does matter it affects our lives.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)Oh, wait. I don't have any money to invest.
Brew my own beer then.
sinkingfeeling
(51,460 posts)tourist in Canada, Ireland, and Uruguay. Plan to roam the world and hopeful have money invested so I don't ever have to stay in any one place for over 6 months.
LeftInTX
(25,378 posts)Spend the entire time high.....
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)Then try to figure out how to survive after he cuts my SS check.
bigwillq
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for the causes, policies and issues I believe in.
It's unrealistic to think the USA will NEVER have a Repub president ever again, or a Repub House or Senate. And it's unrealistic to think USA will never have a a DEM president ever again, or a DEM House or Senate. It will.
We only really get two options--R and D. When swing voters get sick of Ds, they vote Rs, and when folks get sick of Rs, they vote D. Really, it's out of my control--I only get one vote in a very Blue State. I will vote for DEMs in my state (CT) but it likely won't swing the balance in any branch.
That being said, I don't think Trump wins. If he does, well, it will suck, and the country will be worse off for it, but another election will be here before I know it to try and change things I disagree with.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)Thanks for your input.
get the red out
(13,466 posts)Turn the clock back 100 years socially, and give regular people zero power in their live.
ooky
(8,924 posts)once the Republicans cut (steal) my social security and Medicare.
superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)and erectile dysfunction companies
bmstee01
(453 posts)MrsKirkley
(180 posts)Of course I'm voting for nominee Hillary Clinton, but I still think Bernie had a better chance of defeating Trump because of the Independent vote. I do know a Trump victory would be devastating for many years to come because it would result in a right leaning SCOTUS. Hillary Clinton must win!
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Let it go, can you?
Some might blame damage done by Don Quixote's on the left flank.
I really do not want a hide so will leave it at that.
Have a nice evening.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)cornball 24
(1,478 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)first close all my social media accounts, cancel my cable, turn in my smart phones and get a landline, and transfer my money to a Black owned bank or federal credit union. If I had credit cards, which I don't I would cancel them. I would not make any discretionary purchases and when I did I would only buy from POC owned businesses. I would donate monthly to the Obama Foundation.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Keep fighting for a more just society for all.
George the Retiree
(50 posts)If the radiation gets to the southern Caribbean, dem's da breaks.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)along on a visit to my husband's home country.
House - check
Money/Bank Accounts in country - check
Oh and I'm burning my house down before I go. I'll be damned if some white supremacist chick is going to move in there and plaster Hitler and Trump on the walls. Snort - like she'd know what to do with the pasta maker and juice machine.
Yeah - I'm kind of a snot like that - but they hate me - so they can't have my stuff I worked for.
3catwoman3
(24,007 posts)...came to my mind. Rocky Mountain High - move to Colorado and eat pot brownies for 4 years. (I have never smoked anything, so couldn't do it that way.)
DFW
(54,405 posts)I guess all I need to do is acquire a passport from some third world country and request asylum--or wait until Trump has made us a third world country, but I figure it'll take him at least a year to accomplish that, and by that time there would be so many Americans requesting the same thing that my petition might not get approved very quickly.
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)I hate this topic BTW.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)I don't think he'd last 6 months.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)But I'm not seeing him get elected.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)1. adjust my 401k from my diversified portfolio into bonds with fixed interest rates.. low but at least I won't lose everything when the market crashes.
2. As his mouth and actions reduces this country's stature in the world.. take some personal solace in dishing out all of the well deserved "I told you so's".
3. Do every damn thing I can to energize people for the mid-terms.
4. Hope his popularity rating goes so low that congress will not work with him, and makes him a full lame duck within a month of his taking the office.
5. Hope against all hope that the liberal wing of the SCOUTS AND Kennedy survive/remain in the SCOTUS until that creature is out of office.
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Hekate
(90,714 posts)Elect an idiot, you get an idiot (i.e. Bush Jr). Elect a demagogue wanna-be dictator, that's what you get. Believe what you see.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)for my family and me to do except to weather the storm and pray that nothing extremely horrible happens to any of us. In case of a Trump presidency, I'll hopefully be finished with graduate school in 2-3 years and have a decent job before everything completely goes up in flames.
BlueInPhilly
(870 posts)and not watch the SOTU for 4 years
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)I suggest you look at electoral college. Why post something like this? What is your point...No offense, but I am truly sick of these posts.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)I really wanted to know
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)just like FB.
Or put me on ignore.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)you post such things.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)2. Genuine interest, which is clearly share based on the number of posts. Sometimes you just have to take things at face value.
Sorry if it's a problem for you.
gabeana
(3,166 posts)IMHO smells of a defeatist attitude
I try not to let my mind fathom the idea of rump winning
pandora nm
(63 posts)The whole world will be screwed.
I'm going to another planet........
LeftInTX
(25,378 posts)They think Trump is a buffoon and Hillary has "got this".
(I was apolitical until Reagan won. I couldn't believe...........)
eShirl
(18,494 posts)but I won't get on my knees and pray because I'm an atheist.
grubbs
(356 posts)It would mean serious jail time.
redwitch
(14,944 posts)I have no savings. I'm entering retirement age in a few years. My chances to leave the country are nil. So I will stay and do what I can to keep safe and keep others safe.
onecaliberal
(32,864 posts)exalted circles
(105 posts)BlueStateLib
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MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)When I sober up I will get tickets to Clinton's inauguration.
drray23
(7,633 posts)American and french. We can sell our house here and move to europe. My wife retires next year, I am younger and will easily find a job back there even if this may mean a pay cut.
KatyMan
(4,198 posts)Same situation here except Ireland. We had already been researching County Kerry so we will just move up the timetable.
welivetotreadonkings
(134 posts)Despite not really believing in their protest tactics.
But in all seriousness, what will Trump supporters do when Clinton wins?
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)mountain grammy
(26,624 posts)doc03
(35,348 posts)buy some gold.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)"I told you so," 's ready for friends and family who voted stupidly.
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Sorry you missed it.
cagefreesoylentgreen
(838 posts)It's getting harder.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)I've lived abroad for nearly eight years and have permanent residency, citizenship should be fairly straightforward.
Kennah
(14,276 posts)Should be enough to get deported. Why pay to relocate if the government will do it for me? I'll confess to being Canadian.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)...hubby and I certainly would think about it very hard. They don't have kids, but we could establish a place for my daughter and kids to follow.
OTOH, and I want you all to think about this very carefully: If we had left during BushCheney, we would have missed the presidency of Barack Obama. Who knew the backlash would be this bad, but still.
yuiyoshida
(41,832 posts)Only because to Trump's people, Asians all look alike.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)riverbendviewgal
(4,253 posts)To family or Nascar races.
I will stay out until the trumpeter are out.
Vacations will be in Canada or somewhere else in the world.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)d_r
(6,907 posts)mahina
(17,668 posts)And share widely. We should all read it and be ready in case they do succeed in hacking the voting process.
The book is also available for sale at the Albert Einstein Institute.