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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:43 AM Sep 2016

Among Democrats, deep concern about Clinton’s Hispanic strategy

By Abby Phillip and Ed O'Keefe September 18 at 4:21 PM

Lagging support among Hispanic voters for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and congressional candidates in crucial races has stoked deep concern that the party and the presidential campaign are doing too little to galvanize a key constituency.

While Clinton holds a significant lead over Republican rival Donald Trump in every poll of Hispanic voters, less clear is whether these voters will turn out in numbers that Democrats are counting on to win. Clinton trails President Obama’s 2012 performance in several ­Latino-rich states, including Florida, Nevada, Colorado and Arizona. In those same states, on which Democrats’ prospects of retaking the Senate hinge, some down-ballot Democrats remain unknown to many Hispanic voters.

That reality has prompted a flurry of criticism of Clinton’s and the party’s Hispanic strategies. Despite a uniquely favorable environment with Trump’s repeated attacks on undocumented immigrants, Democrats are increasingly worried that the opportunity is slipping away to meet a long-standing party goal of marshaling the nation’s growing Hispanic population into a permanent electoral force. The concerns are compounded by Trump’s recent surge in several battleground states.

“We’re not seeing the Democratic Party take advantage of this moment in time, really looking to leverage more engagement in a more strategic way with our community,” said Janet Murguia, president of the National Council of La Raza.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/among-democrats-deep-concern-about-clintons-hispanic-strategy/2016/09/18/38d3b99a-7c54-11e6-bd86-b7bbd53d2b5d_story.html?wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1

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Among Democrats, deep concern about Clinton’s Hispanic strategy (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2016 OP
What else could they be doing? I'm seeing direct engagement and policies that help all immigrants uponit7771 Sep 2016 #1
Just out of curiosity, did you read the entire article or, .... DonViejo Sep 2016 #2
In resposne to the question asked by the rep for La Raza uponit7771 Sep 2016 #4
Go it. Thanks for the response. DonViejo Sep 2016 #10
The decline support from poc is something that needs to be addressed NWCorona Sep 2016 #3
I don't see any standardized polls showing declining support among minorities, just millennials uponit7771 Sep 2016 #5
You, sir, would be correct. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2016 #6
... and some of those polls are suspect, a 25 point jump to Johnson isn't usual unless she did... uponit7771 Sep 2016 #8
Keep cool, calm, and collected. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2016 #13
There was an 11 point drop in a recent poll. That could be tied NWCorona Sep 2016 #7
Yeap, the M$M is homogenizing the drop but haven't seen the extrapolation of minority voters. I do uponit7771 Sep 2016 #9
I'm actively participating in gotv drives and I tell my brothers and sisters we fought too NWCorona Sep 2016 #12
Amen uponit7771 Sep 2016 #16
among democrats deep concern about everything, all the time La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #11
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2016 #17
I agree. I don't see why she is wasting time on policies for milennials... Barack_America Sep 2016 #14
Millennials are most definitely policy oriented, they're well educated, underpaid, and buried in JRLeft Sep 2016 #19
I don't understand why millennials would even consider turning the fate of the world over anamandujano Sep 2016 #24
Not really and they understand that. JRLeft Sep 2016 #31
good anamandujano Sep 2016 #32
There is zero possibility that Latinos will vote in mass for Donald Trump vdogg Sep 2016 #15
The concern I believe jcgoldie Sep 2016 #18
A lot of people aren't excited about Hillary Clinton, people on this site have to JRLeft Sep 2016 #20
Baloney. Most people aren't worrying about jcgoldie Sep 2016 #23
I get so tired of hearing about people needing to be "excited" to vote for a candidate Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2016 #21
Agree but jcgoldie Sep 2016 #22
At this point Trump should have everybody excited enough to vote against him. anamandujano Sep 2016 #25
Pretty much my point Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2016 #29
this time people should be "excited" to vote against Don the Con treestar Sep 2016 #30
I'm not concerned at all. stonecutter357 Sep 2016 #26
a simple damn fix DonCoquixote Sep 2016 #27
The thing about it is after all the things Trump has said about Hispanics, Clinton really should not EV_Ares Sep 2016 #28
"concern...concern...concern...concern...bla bla FUCKING bla." Enough already. RBInMaine Sep 2016 #33

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
2. Just out of curiosity, did you read the entire article or, ....
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:51 AM
Sep 2016

just the opening paragraphs I copy and pasted, above?

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
3. The decline support from poc is something that needs to be addressed
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:52 AM
Sep 2016

I think having Michelle Obama stump for Clinton will help a lot.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
8. ... and some of those polls are suspect, a 25 point jump to Johnson isn't usual unless she did...
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:59 AM
Sep 2016

... something really fucked up.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
7. There was an 11 point drop in a recent poll. That could be tied
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:58 AM
Sep 2016

To minority millennials, I'm not sure about that but still.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
9. Yeap, the M$M is homogenizing the drop but haven't seen the extrapolation of minority voters. I do
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:01 AM
Sep 2016

... know some people who are ho hum on Clinton but understand tRump is a true threat to our community

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
12. I'm actively participating in gotv drives and I tell my brothers and sisters we fought too
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:15 AM
Sep 2016

Hard to just sit on our ass. Blood was spilled for this right.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
14. I agree. I don't see why she is wasting time on policies for milennials...
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:23 AM
Sep 2016

...when they don't really appreciate policy anyway.

She could garner more of their support in an anti-Trump Twitter rant...on her way to address Hispanics in Florida.

I'm not sure her campaign really has the pulse on this election.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
19. Millennials are most definitely policy oriented, they're well educated, underpaid, and buried in
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:21 AM
Sep 2016

student loan debt.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
24. I don't understand why millennials would even consider turning the fate of the world over
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:56 PM
Sep 2016

to Trump. Hillary is going to help them get free of their student debt as well as making tuition affordable or free.

Add to that, Trump screwed a half ton of students with his Trump Univ scam.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
15. There is zero possibility that Latinos will vote in mass for Donald Trump
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:28 AM
Sep 2016

Full stop. Of the things to be "concerned" about, that's not one of them.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
18. The concern I believe
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:07 AM
Sep 2016

And I don't necessarily share it, but I don't think anyone thinks they will vote for Trump. The issue is will they be excited enough about HRC to turnout at all. I would think that as hateful as Trump has been towards hispanics, they would be dying to get out and vote for anyone not Trump.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
20. A lot of people aren't excited about Hillary Clinton, people on this site have to
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:30 AM
Sep 2016

understand a lot of people don't feel the way they feel about her. The first thing they point to is the republicans history of smears (it's true) but ignore her foreign policy record. Especially the bad decisions.

She went after right wing donors, that doesn't excite people. She has neocon support it confuses people and causes people to who assume she's right leaning.

Is she progressive or right leaning? I don't know. I she surprises many.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
23. Baloney. Most people aren't worrying about
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:46 AM
Sep 2016

... "neocon support" or "right wing donors". Those are bitter Bernie bro talking points. I don't think they have much to do with the election at this point other than for a few bitter folks on the left. She's not right leaning but keep clinging to that ridiculous debate if it makes you feel justified.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
21. I get so tired of hearing about people needing to be "excited" to vote for a candidate
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:41 AM
Sep 2016

It's not the job of politicians to "excite" voters. It's their job IMHO to be a sane and responsible steward of the people's business and, yes, of course, that means listening to what their constituents want/need and try to get them what they want/need but they aren't, nor should they be expected to have to pander to every constituency every second of every day and promise them a "goodie-bag" (most of which they may not be able to provide) just to win elections. If people- of any age, race, etc.- don't have enough of a reason to vote for Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump (or just stay home and refuse to vote period, which could conceivably lead to a Donald Trump win), then, well, I don't know what to say.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
22. Agree but
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:42 AM
Sep 2016

Most folks don't breath politics. You have to do what you can to get out the vote even if it seems like pandering.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
29. Pretty much my point
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 03:31 PM
Sep 2016

Maybe people might not have been able to whip up a ton of enthusiasm against, say, John McCain or even Mitt Romney, but Donald Trump? I sure as hell hope so!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
30. this time people should be "excited" to vote against Don the Con
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 03:44 PM
Sep 2016

That's all it takes. Really people ought to turn out in droves to vote against him. If they had any sense. I never understand why people have to be "excited" to vote. I vote every time as my civic duty.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
27. a simple damn fix
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 03:02 PM
Sep 2016

Get Tom kaine, who speaks better Spanish and spent more Time in Latin America than Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush ever did, and get him ranting on that channel, every fucking day. Have him bring in guests. Have him target to sud americanos y Puertoriquenos who know how bad the GOP Cuban latinos are, because they have a habit of acting like we lesser Latinos are there to cut their sugar cane.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
28. The thing about it is after all the things Trump has said about Hispanics, Clinton really should not
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 03:29 PM
Sep 2016

have to say much of anything. That said; that is not what she has done. She has explained herself on where she stands, she has explained herself on student loans, immigration, the economy, etc.

I have said this numerous times on different things about this election.

I am telling you the media is driving this campaign like I have never seen before. Why, I don't know especially with Trump being the other candidate.

They are framing everything the way they want to frame it, not the way it is.

They are putting out front what they want, not what should be front & center.

Why or when are they going to tell the American public who Donald Trump really is. They have done this with Clinton.

Regarding Hispanics, it is not what Clinton has or has not done, it is what the media is telling everyone.

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