2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum***UPSHOT/Siena FL Poll Clinton 41, Trump 40 (4-way)***
2-way
Clinton 43
Trump 43
GOTV!
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/09/19/upshot/florida-poll-clinton-trump.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fupshot&action=click&contentCollection=upshot®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront&_r=0
underpants
(182,829 posts)We'll see if she survived the stumble. Good news though. Ohio is a coin flip, Florida is probably hers anyway. Trump HAS to win Pennsylvania.
Democat
(11,617 posts)And hope that Trump's big stumble will come closer to voting day.
molova
(543 posts)I don't know why they didn't extend the polling or suspend it in light of Birther-gate, which resulted in terrible news for Trump, as he lied again and again about his involvement in the Birther movement.
underpants
(182,829 posts)after the dust has settled. How bad was the stumble? The birther thing is diluted outside of junkies like ourselves but it will have an effect especially in the degreed voters which Trump is not doing very well with.
The explosions and bombs found over the weekend will probably be spun as his advantage just because he's made "law and order" a big deal. It usually is the Repubs issue due to their history/rhetoric of being tough on crime.
Again we'll see.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)So that's good.
underpants
(182,829 posts)She has organization everywhere, he has none or nada as some people say. Identifying who to target (as annoying as that can be) and who to recruit to volunteer and then putting them together can't be measured in a poll. That's the great *ahem* trump card for her. Those are 1-2 points on Election Day.
But then, we'll see. I've never seen a campaign like his where he has no ground game and has been allowed to phone in interviews to this extent. Oh and his wife is nowhere to be seen.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Clinton's worst week plus an actual ground game?
Not worried
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)If we win it, though, that's even better.
molova
(543 posts)Unbelievable.
They could have said, "Black voters keep Trump in check, or something similar.
But hey, it's the New York Times.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)GOTV--early voting HRC has more campaign offices and thus more volunteers to help bank those early votes.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)RAFisher
(466 posts)Bad week. We are still trying to see how fast Clinton will rise in the polls. Debates should help Clinton. Florida is all going depend on GOTV.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)though that may be changing now that the Republican party has become definitively the party of uneducated white people, which would shift states like NC into the "more Democratic" column with states like Iowa and Nevada going into the "more Republican" column.
oasis
(49,389 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)nt