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politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 11:48 PM Sep 2016

Anyone out there who knows one of those millennials who has one of those 'laissez faire' attitudes

and is turned off by this year's election politics and doesn't think that they will bother to vote, needs to be reminded that you absolutely get nothing if you don't get your behinds to the polls and vote come election day, or sooner. The GOP was not motivated during the primary to offer you any assistance with your Student Loan debt or to help make college more affordable for you before you run up a ton of student loan debt. So you can sit back and say both parties are the same, and I'm not interested, and that I am just going to sit this one out.

If you think you're not interested in this election because you're too busy playing Pokemon Go, or hanging out with your friends getting stoned, or for whatever reason just can't be bothered, here's a reminder that your generation stands to lose more than my generation. Parents get on them now, and stay on them until election day. I have three millennials of my own who I will make sure that they get to the polls, so I'm sorry if I don't have a lot of time to listen to a bunch of spoiled whiner's complaints. If Hillary wasn't your first choice, get over it.

Politics is a lesson in learning to give and take. It can't be just about taking. If you want
good paying jobs; if you want to be able to earn a living wage for a 40 hour workweek; if you want affordable health care; if you want help with your student loan debt, you need to get your behind off the sofa and you and your friends get your behinds to the polls. There is a difference between the two parties. One party nominated a know-nothing reality TV star as their nominee for the highest, most important office in the world; rejects the warnings of 97% of the scientific community regarding global warming; and is proud to wear their know-nothingness as a badge of honor.

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Anyone out there who knows one of those millennials who has one of those 'laissez faire' attitudes (Original Post) politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 OP
I think the Obamas, Bernie, Warren will help radius777 Sep 2016 #1
I hear what you're saying, but you may or may not recall that it was reported that millennial didn't politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #2
The youth have never been a reliable vote radius777 Sep 2016 #3
It is the current status quo that has them disillusioned MichMan Sep 2016 #4

radius777

(3,635 posts)
1. I think the Obamas, Bernie, Warren will help
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:01 AM
Sep 2016

to rally most of the millennials to vote Dem/H in this election, when push comes to shove.

The debates haven't even happened yet, when election day gets closer support for 3rd parties usually craters, as people more carefully consider their vote.

All Hillary has to do is re-assemble to Obama coalition and it is game over, and he (and Michelle) is working hard to help her do this.

As you stated there is a stark difference between the parties and the candidates, anyone who glosses over this is either evil or stupid or both. The next president will appoint one or more supreme court justices, which could determine the balance of the court for a generation.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
2. I hear what you're saying, but you may or may not recall that it was reported that millennial didn't
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:43 AM
Sep 2016

show up to vote at the primaries in the same show of force that they showed up at the rallies. It was reported that perhaps the rallies were just a place for the guys to meet girls and vice versa. That on election day they didn't make it to the polls at quite the same rate. The reasons that they surmised for their not voting was: 1) they had other things to do come primary day; and 2) they didn't think that their vote would be missed on election day since they thought that Bernie had such a large following; but they weren't the only one who felt that way. Many others did as well and it made a big difference in the turnout numbers.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
3. The youth have never been a reliable vote
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:59 AM
Sep 2016

which isn't a knock against them, we were all like that at some point.

I think the Dems/H/O will make a strong push to get them back into the fold and re-assemble the Obama coalition. H is running to become the first female president, we need to get young people more excited about this, about what a historic event it would be.

As long as we get enough of them to turn out, the results will (imo) be similar to 2012 and H will be madame president.

MichMan

(11,938 posts)
4. It is the current status quo that has them disillusioned
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:48 AM
Sep 2016

When you are in your 50's like I am, the span of 8 yrs is just a blip. For someone much younger it is a significant part of their lifespan.

I believe the appeal of Bernie was that his message was anything but the status quo. For good and bad ( obviously good in my opinion) Hillary will be seen as an extension of the Obama administration, but younger people see crushing student debt and bleak job future as something that has been eroding steadily over time and are going to be skeptical that Hillary will be a agent of change.

My niece is in that age group and she is a big Hillary supporter now that Bernie is no longer an option. Electing the first woman president seems to be the issue motivating her much more than any policies etc, so there is hope.

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