2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPolls Are All Over the Place. Keep Calm and Hillary On!
http://www.hillaryhq.com/2016/09/polls-are-all-over-place-keep-calm-and.html?m=1Awesome news! A CBS News/YouGov poll taken late last week shows Hillary Clinton leading Donald Trump by seven points in Ohio, her best showing yet!
Well, it looks like she's running away with this thing so I guess we'll move on to...oh...
Donald Trump leads Hillary Clinton by 5 percentage points in a Bloomberg Politics poll of Ohio, a gap that underscores the Democrats challenges in critical Rust Belt states after one of the roughest stretches of her campaign.
The Republican nominee leads Clinton 48 percent to 43 percent among likely voters in a two-way contest and 44 percent to 39 percent when third-party candidates are included.
Damn. I guess Donald Trump made some strides over the weekend as a result of the "deplorables"/pneumonia thing. So maybe the race has changed and we'll need to start worrying.
Wait...scratch that. Other polls taken over the weekend found no real change:
PPP's new Virginia poll finds that Hillary Clinton is still in a pretty good position in the state.
In the full field she leads with 45% to 39% for Donald Trump, with Gary Johnson at 6%, Jill Stein at 2%, and Evan McMullin at 1%. In a head to head contest just against Trump, she leads 50/42.
And in this national poll:
The latest Economist/YouGov Poll was conducted both before and after Hillary Clinton left the campaign trail because of a pneumonia diagnosis.
But there is no indication that opinions were greatly changed. Polling began on Saturday and continued through Tuesday.
Last weeks two-point Clinton lead remained unchanged: she leads Republican Donald Trump 42% to 40% in the four-way contest, and 46% to 44% in the two-way race.
Whew! I guess the Bloomberg poll of Ohio was an outlier. So I guess we can relax and...oh...
With eight weeks to go before Election Day, Donald Trump holds a narrow lead over Hillary Clinton in Ohio and the two are locked in a near-even contest in Florida, according to new CNN/ORC polls in the two critical battleground states.
Among likely voters in Ohio, Trump stands at 46% to Clinton's 41%, with 8% behind Libertarian Gary Johnson and 2% behind Green Party nominee Jill Stein. In Florida, likely voters split 47% for Trump to 44% for Clinton, within the poll's 3.5 percentage point margin of error, and with 6% behind Johnson and 1% backing Stein.
She apparently took a hit in Nevada as well.
Uh oh, panic time! Or wait...maybe not, according to the infamous Quinnipiac.
It's hard to say for sure what's going on here. But without unskewing anything, let me make a couple of observations.
Regarding the Bloomberg Ohio poll:
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Bernardo de La Paz
(49,047 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Hillary HQ is not buying the Qpac/Bloomberg/2004 skewing that's being promo'd all over media.
Fact Checking every dang thing Breaking Newz repeats is a necessary task, done several times a day.
Bullshite Newz..
LenaBaby61
(6,979 posts)With you.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Leading, governing, making SC noms & a much better place for all Americans.
Hey bravenak..
bravenak
(34,648 posts)We must save the court, if Trump gets in he will use the SC to rob us all blind. Hillary will choose righteous Judges, just like Obama. I was so pleased to see him stumping for her.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Even Rmoney believed it. Pres O sweeps the electoral except for NC and won 4% in the national. The polling outfits are doing it again. Undermining the POC vote, young and many whites.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)underpants
(182,950 posts)That's when we will know how much of an effect the last few days (both sides) have effected things.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)leebaba1992
(53 posts)There not all over the place. They are trending Trump's way. This is like Obama vs Romney after the first debate. Obama clearly got schooled in that debate but some on here would swear to you he won. Hilary had a bad week and hopefully it'll get better next week.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)The polls have tightened, even Nate Silver has said so. It has narrowed to a 1-3% point Hillary lead nationally and the full effect of this weekend hasn't shown up yet in the data. It's a tossup.
I'm not worrying too much because the debates are coming and Donald will hopefuly inevitably shoot himself in the foot. But this will likely be a tossup going into the debates.
LenaBaby61
(6,979 posts)tRump is being held to SUCH a low standard--even lower than Dubya was--by the so-called Liberal Press/media, that the poll usually sitting on the bars used for debates is on the ground--Hell, there is NO BAR. He's being graded on a giant curve. Hillary will be ready with facts, knowledge of the world here domestically, know about the world out there, and know a great deal about foreign policy and she is a very skilled debtor on top of all those things.
However, tRump is 70 and doesn't seem at all interested and doesn't seem to CARE one bit about the country he lives in domestically and especially doesn't care about our world out there. So, if he does debate and comes out and doesn't make a complete fool of himself, throw up on his shoes or call Hillary the c-word, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the media doesn't call him the winner of whatever debate he participates in because the bar is set SO low for him, and he's being graded on the biggest curve EVER for anything he does and says. Hillary will be punished for being ultra competent and sane if she performs at all like she probably will, and tRump will not get punished for being worse than mediocre.
I'm not holding my breath believing that this horse race loving So-called Liberal media will give Hillary many if any "kudos" for being intelligent, and ultra competent IF there are debates. tRump's already calling for debates sans moderators.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)I'm pointing to Bloomberg and CNN Ohio and Florida. Review it.
Appears to be the same repeat as 2012.