2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow many of us have gone to work sick because we HAD to?
Because we were threatened by our bosses, because we absolutely needed the money to survive, or because we were small business people who had to show up to do a job or NOBODY would?
I'm thinking maybe a few million Americans, maybe tens of millions, share in this experience. I think we all understand exactly what that feels like.
And I think our candidate is showing, once again, that she's made of much truer grit than the idiot fop she's running against. And I think that people see and appreciate that. I know I do.
treestar
(82,383 posts)could sympathize.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)I thought it was a bad cold.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Us men whine and feel sorry for ourselves. Women get up, take care of everybody else and go on. When an entire family is sick, and it happens a lot, the women take care of everybody, even when they aren't resting as much as the others. To attack Hillary over this makes me mad and sick at the same time. How we can allow the media to deride her over this is beyond comprehension. Maybe it is time to start calling some advertisers. Maybe it can have the same effect as it had on Limbaugh. Real news is one thing. Ignoring real news, like the Trump Foundation, and trying to make news out of something that we have all done is disgusting.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)figuring I'll just be sicker tomorrow,so I might as well get today in.
GoDawgs
(267 posts)Over 40% of the workforce gets no sick days at all. Zero
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,899 posts)or because there is no one else available to do the job is vastly different from Hillary's continuing to campaign and attend events despite a diagnosis of pneumonia.
It is fair to criticize her, mainly because she put her own longer-term health at great risk by doing so.
Which can also be true of more ordinary folks who work when sick.
csziggy
(34,137 posts)When you are the one person who can make decision and the only one who can do certain essential duties, you HAVE to show up no matter how sick or worn out you are. Long term health might suffer but when you are the one person completely in charge you cannot afford to take that time off no matter what.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,899 posts)can take over in a pinch. Especially since it seems she's finally realized she actually is sick enough to stay home for a day or two.
I want to see her healthy and fully up to being President, not struggling just to do the minimum because she's been running on empty for too long.
There is a culture of being a martyr to the job, to working completely stupid hours, of not taking time off for any reason whatsoever, and it's got to stop.
napi21
(45,806 posts)I know I have many times. I took great pride in my job, and because businesses have been operating on a "least # of workers possible" plan, there was no one who could have taken over in my absence. I suspect Don the Con and his followers don't understand that and never have done it either.
I think Hillary's campaign will be fine. If you think about it, almost every presidential candidate that actually had enthusiasm had some health problems on the trail. Loosing your voice affects most of them. Meeting with, and shaking hands with millions of people exposes a candidate to lots of diseases. If the worst thing Hill got was a case of walking pneumonia, I think she's doing great!
Don the Con doesn't mingle with the crowd. He just stands on his podium and screams down at his people all the time. That's how dictators operate.
Arkansas Granny
(31,531 posts)might cost me my job. If I could drag my ass out of bed, I went to work.
Fortunately, my situation has changed and I no longer do that. If I'm sick, I call the boss and stay home.
Freddie
(9,275 posts)The only one here. My boss theoretically knows my job but she really doesn't.
People get upset when they're not paid.
Almost a year ago I had this strange, off and on pain in my lower right side. Stomach bug or gas, right? Called out sick on Monday, thought it would go away. Nope. Felt worse. It was paycheck week so I went in on Tuesday, worked 5 hours to get everybody paid, drove myself to the ER. In 2 hours was having an emergency appendectomy.
I wrote up a step-by-step manual for my boss after that.
justhanginon
(3,290 posts)several times I worked through kidney stone pain till it was just unbearable. It's just what you did sometimes when people depend on you. Now I am old and retired and look back and still cringe at the thought. Hopefully my private rock (stone) garden days are over with.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)over many, many years. I agree. Going on despite the walking pneumonia definitely shows that Hillary has grit. She's one tough lady!
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)If I wasn't there, the practice didn't make any money. I was a single mother. If my daughter was sick, I either had to stay home with HER or else pay someone to take care of her. Any and all "sick leave" (because there wasn't a finite amount in place) was used to take care of my child. If I (myself) got sick, there was no choice but to tough it out and go to work.
barbtries
(28,811 posts)i worked through my vacations because i needed the money. finally one year i took a week off, and guess what? i got SICK. i spent the week prostrate and suffering. even my children got sick. i believe i just did not let it happen when it couldn't happen. i never got a diagnosis (no money for doctors), but it could have been pneumonia. will never know.
i was bitter about that for years. years.
former9thward
(32,082 posts)And its a very serious disease. And you are saying someone has "much truer grit" when they go out in public with a serious contagious disease when they don't have to. Wow... I am glad I don't work with you. Feel sorry for anyone that has to.