The "Basket" Strategy - Someone is making a colossal miscalculation

[piechartking]

So Hillary said what she said about basket of deplorables. Trump camp is indignant.

Funny thing is, BOTH sides are running full-steam with it. Trump supporters are PROUD to be called deplorable. Clinton campaign refuses to "fully apologize" about the deplorables.

there's the thought that this is forcing a conversation about race, sexism, etc and Trump will always come out a loser.

there's also the thought that Clinton is uniting a base - which is dangerous for Clinton.

What is everyone's thoughts?

Personally, I think this goes against Clinton's strategy to win over the middle. Now you're going to have Republican-leaning voters wondering if she's talking about them, getting offended, and considering Trump. I'm Asian, but my wife is Caucasian, Southern, and a lot of her family can't stand Trump, but the deplorable thing offends them (I know, the irony of white bigots being "offended&quot

[FSogol]

1. "Hillary had to apologize for her deplorable comment...what she meant to say instead of basket

was shitload." - Conan O'Brien

[piechartking]

7. Link?

That's a great joke, but I can't find it anywhere.

[FSogol]

18. Here you go

[bigwillq]

2. So happy that this is what this election has become

I'm all for talking about race, sexism, etc, but this is not doing that, imo.

To me, it seems like politics as usual, when all the candidates do is attack each other.

[piechartking]

3. In the crassest terms, the election is always only about

How many more people on your side get to the polls.

In that regard, Dems always have the advantage - demographically, mechanically (GOTV and field operations).

However, I'm against ANYTHING that conceivably unites Republicans. This "Deplorables" thing does that, for whatever reason. They would rather own that label without actually examining their own actual deplorable beliefs.

[tblue37]

13. But polls show that a majority of voters agree with her comment, and Trump's

people keep demonstrating its truth. Pence won't even admit David Duke can be considered deplorable. A jerk at a Trump rally attacks 3 nonviolent protesters, including a woman, whom he slaps. Louie Gohmert calls Clinton brain damaged and "special needs."

Trump trolls spread ugly racist, sexist, and xenophobic comments all over the comment sections of articles about her "deplorable" comment, and Trump surrogates go on TV and radio to do the same thing. Trump supporting TV and radio hosts amp up their deplorable commentary.

The appalling responses of Trump supporters, including the unadmitted, supposedly nonpartisan reporters and pundits in the MSM, to Hillary's illness and brief near syncope at the 9/11 memorial service were also deplorable. The piling on and over reaching over her illness could easily lead to voter sympathy of the sort the pumped up Bill's favor ability ratings after he was hounded and impeached by the Republicans over the Lewinsky affair.

[LAS14]

24. That's great. Can you point to specific polls?

[tblue37]

59. Rivers edge has a thread on one:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141570952

[sarae]

78. You could argue that what she said is uniting Dems and true liberals...

I've seen a lot of people energized to stand behind what she said. We're tired of the media turning a blind eye to the blatant racism coming out of the Trump campaign. Where's the outcry about the offensive, disgusting things Trump has said?

If the Republican nominee can get away with denigrating Hispanics, African-Americans and Muslims, women, etc., there's not enough of an outcry. He hasn't paid a real price for his comments – largely because a lot of his supporters (prob more than half) are as bad or worse than he is. We've all seen what happens at his rallies.

The media is always rushing to protect the white electorate, even if they're racist bigots. They always make excuses for them by saying they're struggling and angry at the changing population (i.e., they're racist). Most of them are wealthier than Dems. There's no excuse for being a bigot. These people should be called out, not allowed to hide by being called "working class" – that statement itself completely erases all the minorities who are working class.

[NHDEMFORLIFE]

82. Why is this a bigger story than Trump's daily bombast?

The man has been adopted by the spiritual head of the KKK. I'd say that is an overflowing basketl of deplorables.

[DrDan]

12. I don't agree that it is "politics as usual" as you describe - attacking each other

She attacked his supporters, not him. When did it become a good idea to attack voters en masse.

Call out bigots. Call out misogynists. Call out xenophobes. Who could disagree with that.

But don't call out voters, in general, and expect anything good to come out of it.

[Demsrule86]

20. They are bigots and should be called out...and most agree with her..l

This more BS...'concern'...anyone who supports Trump is a bigot and a hater that is just the way it is. Truth is truth.

[DrDan]

31. you missed my point - her comment took it out of the realm of "attack each other"

she was not attacking trump - she was attacking voters

(on edit - oh yeah - just hit me - the person who labels those that disagree as trump supporters . . . . )

[Demsrule86]

33. What ? I think his voters are as bad as he is and should be called out. nt

I have labeled you nothing by the way...I am just sick of all the criticism of Hillary. She should do this or that ...or whatever. She said what she said and now it is done...I agree with her...some don't.

[renate]

69. I agree with you

It was not smart of Donald Trump to say things like "How stupid are the voters of Iowa" and it was not smart of Hillary Clinton to be so specific about the number of Trump supporters who are deplorable. It would have been one thing to say "some" but to say half of them are deplorable... for one thing that essentially means that any Trump supporter to go "hmm... there's a 50-50 chance she means me" and for everybody else to go "so there's a 50-50 chance she means my uncle/dad/sister," plus that's just not a good thing for somebody who's going to be the President of the United States and work on behalf of all its citizens to say. I'm sure it was discussed at length by a team of advisers and I think they did her a huge disservice with this.

[DrDan]

80. and don't make ridiculous accusations

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[La Lioness Priyanka]

52. and which glorious election did you last witness where candidates did not attack each other

and instead ONLY attacked the policies which they disagreed with?

[bigwillq]

53. None. And that's sad.

Wish our candidates would try to change that.

[Wednesdays]

4. Pearl clutching.

[bmstee01]

5. This could a great opportunity

For Hillary to give a speech on the greatness and goodness of americans. And how we must unite and stand up against this element.
Republicans embracing the deplorable label is troubling. Basically saying they are racist and proud.
This is a risk but if played well could turn out in her favor.
I'm white and southern. I told my mom who doesn't like either candidate about the deplorable comment. Her eyes opened really big and I thought she was going to condemn it. Instead my white southern mother said, "well it's true. She finally told the truth"
If I were you I would talk about how yeah it wasn't politically correct, but if you look at the numbers, she was right. 1/2 are deplorably racist.

[CrispyQ]

61. "If I were you I would talk about how yeah it wasn't politically correct..."

Interesting, cuz a lot of the Trump supporters are angry about political correctness & that's what they like about Trump - his willingness to be as open with his bigotry as they are. They are glad that they are finally able to display their bigotry without being shamed. But HRC - hey, she must remain politically correct! How dare she call out the deplorables!

I blame the main stream media. They were the first defense against this shit. Instead, they used Sarah Palin's inflammatory speech against Obama to garner ratings. For eight years the MSM has let hundreds of hateful, derogatory, & bigoted comments about our President, spoken by main stream politicians (!), go without comment. Now, here we are with a full blown mega-bigot at the head of one of the major parties, a man who has the endorsement of KKK leaders, & the media are still trying to make it a fucking horse race. ABC, NBC, CBS & CNN are all to blame for this shit hole candidate. And FOX should have been taken off the air a long time ago. Don't get me started on the blanket of hate radio that covers the entire middle section of this country, without any other choice of viewpoint.

Republicans embracing the deplorable label is troubling. Basically saying they are racist and proud.
This is a risk but if played well could turn out in her favor.

Anyway, good post & I agree.

[Loki]

6. I wish she'd said a "shitload" instead of a basket.

It's time to call these people exactly what they are. We have some ugly, hateful people in this country and I don't consider any of them redeemable unless they actually have an awakening and realize just how disgusting their behavior has been. Then we have a dialogue, but until then, nope. The Republican's have let them out of the cage, and this is how you fight them, by not backing down.

[Coyotl]

9. Only one problem with that, the new Trump Headquarters just opened.

[landolfi]

37. Not big enough! n/t

[C_U_L8R]

8. There are less of them but...

Hillary put a bright spotlight on who they, the deplorable racists, are.
It's now up to all of us who'd rather not be 'ruled' by these disgusting
folks to get out the freaking vote like never before. These are the stakes.

[DrDan]

10. a campaign blunder - it will not gain a single vote, and will perhaps lose some indies

[Loki]

16. I had no idea that independents didn't like the truth.

Only when it looks pretty and doesn't smell?

[DrDan]

26. I happen to be an independent

[DrDan]

29. we do like the truth - I am an independent

attack trump - not his supporters

this just gives them a reason to unify - and it is working - he is capitalizing on this blunder

btw - I don't think ANY independent was unaware of the nature of trump supporters. Hillary did not need to say ANYTHING. This did not gain her a single voter.

[landolfi]

38. Yes, it's unifying them

but they are also getting bolder. Like the white nationalists who came forward today praising Pence for not calling Duke out (a big blunder for Pence, IMO). I think if it emboldens enough of the fringe, some folks who are independent might get a little nervous supporting Trump.

A tiny bit of advice for you: You say you are independent. If you really are, you might want to be careful what you post to a board that is for die-hard democrats. This is more like the antithesis of the deplorables.

[DrDan]

40. you might check my membership - since 2001 - I vote, contribute, and work for exclusively Democrats

I am and have been a Hillary supporter through the primary season (actually for years prior). I always vote Democratic. I am not attacking Hillary or any Dem. I still have my Hillary campaign sign from 2012 in my garage. I just think this was a campaign blunder.

[landolfi]

60. Got it, thanks.

[radius777]

75. Exactly, it's designed to bait them

and it is working.

They're bigoted narccisists who think their worldview actually is secretly appealing, when the reality is that it is appalling, and is forcing them to speak up loud and proud, and will likely drive off moderates.

The idea that Trump's supporters are victims (and not the evil scum they are) has been nurtured by the media and even many in the general public for far too long.

Calling them out I think is a strategy to change this sentiment.

Could it have some negative effects for our side, perhaps, but I just don't think Team H would do something like this without carefully considering all of the polling data.

It may be a strategy to cut Trump off from any possible appeal to white women and white moderates, which he (by bringing in Kellyanne Conway) has been trying to do.

It also excites the Dem base (including millenials, which she failed thus far to excite), and gets a strong meme going for our side, helping to frame the fight going forward.

She's 'throwing down' and injecting some gusto into this race, to prevent being too bland and above the fray, prevent what happened to Gore and Kerry.

[Loki]

58. So just ignore it? That makes it more palatable for you?

Sorry, I can't do that.

[Goblinmonger]

85. I disagree. They need to be called out for what they are.

Sure, not all of them, but I don't think we help anything but not pointing to the deplorable nature of MANY of his supporters. I'm sick of people just saying, "Well, I disagree, but..." No. There are some REALLY horrible racists in Trump's followers and they need to be called out and washed in the light of day.

And if there are enough racist fucks to unify and defeat Clinton, then we are screwed as a country--it's time to leave.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

25. I'm a swing voting Independent

And I WANT to hear this kind of stuff because it MATTERS. What I don't want to hear is BS, lies and smear campaigns. If there is a TRUE, VALID issue then bring it on. Trump IS appealing to the nastiest people and it MUST be said.

[DrDan]

30. so you were unaware of this prior to Hillary's comment - got it

[Blue Idaho]

32. He said - attacking a voter for Hillary... nt.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

41. No, I was not unaware, but I know many who have not been paying attention

You should not assume that everyone else follows political news as closely as those here do because they simply do not. I am not sure what type of Independent voter you are, so I can't speak for you. For myself, I am an Independent because throughout my 32 years voting I sometimes vote Republican and sometimes vote Democrat. It usually depends on the candidate. I don't toe the line of ANY party. I don't always vote FOR people. Sometimes I vote AGAINST people. I do my best to find unbiased and balanced information, so truth matters immensely to me. I look at things rationally when they come out and don't just assume that what I hear is true.

Trump is a media hog, and Clinton cannot allow him to control the news cycle. The media is going to report on the deplorable comment she made either way. She can let it put her on the defensive so it does benefit Trump or she can use it to show how disgusting Trump is. She's using it to her advantage. The media is showing Trump supporters assaulting people and proving Clinton right. She would much rather talk about this issue than re-hash the goddamned email witch hunt again.

[athena]

35. It energizes the base

by demonstrating how differently the media treats the Donald and Hillary. The Donald insults half the population repeatedly and gets away with it. Hillary makes a factual generalization about many of Trump's supporters, and we're still talking about how it supposedly hurts her campaign.

In case you're not sure how Trump has insulted half the population, here is a summary:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/18-real-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-women_us_55d356a8e4b07addcb442023

ETA: Here is one of Trump's statements about women -- half the population:
“Women have one of the great acts of all time. The smart ones act very feminine and needy, but inside they are real killers. The person who came up with the expression ‘the weaker sex’ was either very naive or had to be kidding. I have seen women manipulate men with just a twitch of their eye — or perhaps another body part.” — Trump: The Art of the Comeback, 1997

[DrDan]

39. geez louise - I am not defending trump - I just do not see the benefit in

attacking his voters. They are not running, he is. Attack him.

I think he is despicable in his comments and his treatment of others. His denigration of the reporter should be enough for any voter to not support him.

Hillary's comment did NOTHING to energize our base - but is certainly energizing his.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

44. It will energize the deplorable

And is intended to give those that DON'T fit in the basket pause to reconsider their support. The more energized and brazen the deplorables become the more determined the rest of us will be to make damn sure Trump loses. I know for myself the more pissed I get over the behavior of Trump and his supporters the more energized I become to beat these asshats.

[DrDan]

46. do you REALLY think any trump supporter, one of the non-deplorables, will

change their support based on that comment? Do you think that it will sway a single voter?

I think the behavior of trump and many of his supporters is beyond despicable. Labeling ALL of his supporters as deplorable will not gain us a single vote.

[athena]

49. Winning elections is not about changing minds.

I take it you have not volunteered for a presidential campaign in the last 8-9 years. It's all about getting out the vote. Democratic voters tend to work multiple jobs and often simply don't have time to vote. Under a lot of stress to make ends meet, they don't think their vote will make a difference. The campaign is all about making contact with Democratic voters and making sure they will actually vote on election day. Volunteers are specifically told not to waste time arguing with those supporting the opposition, or those who are still undecided in the later stages of the campaign.

If you think any Trump supporter will be swayed by anything Hillary says, you're engaging in wishful thinking.

[DrDan]

50. my point exactly - that comment will not sway a single voter - and please refrain from

making assumptions. I worked many many hours on the Obama campaign as well as contributing.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

51. Please cite the source where she labelled ALL Trump supporters as deplorable.

Stop it. You know full well that she initially said HALF and then corrected herself and said it was not half and she was wrong to say half. She was being 100% honest and everyone knows it. There is NO SHAME in telling the truth.

And yes, I do think some may turn away from Trump. I also think it will help prevent him from getting new support.

[DrDan]

55. you are correct - I should have said "half" vs "all"

and I still do not think a single vote will be changed.

I am not arguing whether true or not - just that it should not have been said. That was the blunder.

my opinion

[athena]

47. You missed my point entirely.

I wasn't arguing that you support Trump or defend his actions. I was pointing out that the Donald gets away with insulting half the population repeatedly, while Hillary does not get away with making a factual statement about (in fact more than) half of the Donald's supporters. This discrepancy is what energizes the base, which is becoming increasingly exasperated over the media's unequal treatment of the two candidates. We feel that we have to work harder to GOTV and win this thing, given how unequal the media's coverage is.

I'm not sure where you get your conviction that Hillary's comment "did NOTHING to energize our base." I think the coverage of the comment has annoyed the base as much as the coverage of the e-mail "controversy".

[BlueInPhilly]

65. No it won't

But your concern is duly noted.

[MohRokTah]

11. Your concern concerning this concern is concerning. eom

[radius777]

14. You make good points

and it does (at least on the surface) seem like risky strategy.

When I first heard it I was concerned, for the reasons you mention.

But clearly this was well thought out, they would never make such a provocative move otherwise. Hillary is known to be a cautious candidate, after all.

I don't really care for her campaign staff (Podesta, Mook, Fallon), but Joel Benenson (who also worked for Obama) is her chief strategist/pollster and he does have a reputation of being tough/smart ie knows what he is doing. A move like this (imo) wouldn't have been done without his input.

We'll have to see how it works out.

[eShirl]

15. Here's the thing: if you're NOT racist, etc, she's NOT talking about you.

[Adrahil]

17. So, they identify with racists, sexists, xenophobes, and homophobes?

I don't see how anyone could feel offended by that, unless they identify as one those deplorable things.

Seems to me the deplorables only object to "political correctness" when they are talking about brown people, women, and Muslims.

[piechartking]

19. It's a subtle thing

I observe this with my in-laws. As I said, I'm a minority (Asian), and my wife's family is all white, Southern, conservative values.

Many of them don't like Trump...but...they also don't like Hillary. And honestly, if you forced them to choose between the racists, the homophobics, the anti-Muslim crowd or the Hillary crowd and liberals, (they wouldn't probably admit to this in public) but they would side with the racists.

Now, my wife bristles whenever I say, "That makes them racist then!", because she swears up and down that just because culturally they identify more with racists than with liberals, doesn't necessarily make them racist. I say BS, but hey, it's her family so I have to tread carefully.

[Adrahil]

21. I'm there with you.

Most of my wife's family is the same way.

But as I say to them when we get in such arguments. "Look around you. David Duke. Bannon. Racists and homophobes of every stripe. Consider who is on your side. If that isn't want you want, if that isn't who you identify with, then make a change. Otherwise, you are known by the company you keep."

If they feel offended by Hillary calling those folks "deplorables," then maybe they ARE deplorables. Those kinds of folks just ain't gonna vote for Clinton anyway.

[Demsrule86]

22. It makes them racists.

If you side with someone you know will harm other...minorities, immigrants and women...it makes you a racist misogynist piece of crap. That being said family is not perfect and you don't choose them like friends...I simply refuse to discuss anything political with my GOP family. All but two have left the party...and the two who remain are 'independents' read really Republicans.

[BlueInPhilly]

64. Southern Conservative

The fact that they do not like Trump says it all. Please stop making a big deal - the basket of deplorables meme has caught on in a good way. If you are not in the basket, you don't need to get offended.

And frankly, your in-laws would probably not vote Democratic anyway. So nice try.

[anneboleyn]

71. Sorry, but if they get upset at racists being identified as racists, they are not Hillary supporters

The idea that racists being called out for their racism, (and of course it has been shown repeatedly that Trump retweets tweets from White Nationalist groups in addition to hundreds of racist comments he has made himself), somehow upsets your "non-racist" relatives so much is very odd. Why would they identify with Trump voters unless they themselves were Trump voters? I have a very hard time believing they would ever have voted for Hillary.

[piechartking]

72. No, I don't think they'll ever vote for Hillary, but

I don't want them to vote Trump. I'd just rather they sit out or vote Johnson.

From what I can gather about them (and I may have some of the dynamics wrong because I come from a Chinese-American family), I think they identify culturally more with whites, yes even redneck racists, than they would with what they view as immoral Democrats and liberals.

That's why I say it's a subtle thing. It's definitely not anything that anyone will admit to in polite society, but that's my sneaking suspicion.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

23. I am the middle...and this topic hurts Trump

This is completely different than Romney's 47% because Romney's comment was not truthful. The only thing Clinton did wrong is saying half, which she corrected. Otherwise her comment is true and people know it.

Also, if the media is talking about the disgusting faction of Trump's supporters then they aren't talking about the damn email.

[piechartking]

28. So then you think this is a huge miscalculation

On the part of Kellyanne Conway and the Trump campaign then?

A 2012 version of "You didn't build that" ?

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

45. Sort of...I think Clinton planned this to control the dialogue

The only people who are going to be bothered by what Clinton said are people who are already going to vote for Trump. However, the Trump campaign doesn't realize that. They think Clinton just gave them a huge gift but it was really a Trojan Horse. Give the woman credit...she's brilliant. Now the media is not talking about the email but instead are talking about her telling the truth about Trump and some of his supporters. Now Trump is denying the truth and Clinton is being honest. Who is more trustworthy and honest about this? Who is the champion and defender of minorities and the targets of hate? Not Trump because he is DEFENDING them. He IS them.

[beachbumbob]

27. Sexism...racism....bigotry and general hate is deplorable and if a white person

Is offended...perhaps they have those traits to begin with...Hillarys move was brilliant...make trump and conservatives defend the hate....

[mopinko]

34. it's dangerous to shore up the base?

wtf are you talking about?

[vlyons]

36. yes yes, a thousands times yes!

It's time those so-called moderate Republicans started looking at themselves to check out their own attitudes about race, women, equality of opportunity, and corruption of money in politics. HRC calls them "deplorable." I call them "depraved," with depravity defined as moral corruption. We need to have this national conversation. The Republican party has stood by silently and cowardly for many many years and allowed the white supremacists to take over their party.

Never ever forget that in the 1920s and 1930s, it was the "Good Germans," who stood by saying and doing nothing that faciliated Hitler's rise to power. If it could happen in Germany, a sophisticated and cultured country, it could happen here if we let it.

[Adrahil]

43. YES!!

Goddammit, those so-called "moderate" Republicans have to OWN THE FUCK UP to what has driven their party for 40+ years. If they don't like what they see when their party is stripped bare to its fundamentals, then it's time to rethink their world-view. If not, they have to accept that THAT is who they really are, all pretense pushed to the side.

I grew up in center-right family. Tended to vote Republican, despite being registered Democrats. As I became an adult, I really looked at the candidates I was "supporting" and the ideas they represented. I did not like it one damn bit. So I made a change.

[piechartking]

56. Hope there are enough of them like you

with that kind of internal courage.

I'm worried that many more, when confronted with their own innate bigotry, will just retreat and do the easy thing: attack Clinton.

[Adrahil]

68. Sadly, most folks never examine their core beliefs.

It's scary. I know. It means rejecting points of view long held and deeply felt.

Most people will never do it. But some will. There is hope.

[PatSeg]

42. I think this has worked out as it was intended to do

While criticizing Hillary's comment, it has drawn more attention to the fringe element that supports Donald Trump and the media has stopped talking about emails and the Clinton Foundation. Then Hillary can appear to be apologizing, but she is only referring to the "1/2" part of the comment.

Now "deplorable" is being repeated over and over again, often in jest, but whenever it is said, it brings to mind the extreme hateful Trump supporters that the media had stopped covering for the most part.

As for the "middle", I would think many of them would not want to be associated with the average racist Trump supporter. If they are offended, then perhaps they are among the "deplorables".

[Blue Idaho]

57. A side benefit...

More "Deplorables" are crawling out from under their rocks and getting all loud and proud about their racism, sexism, and xenophobia. I say the more the merrier. Before long the truth of her statement will be undeniable - even to republicans.

[PatSeg]

67. Oh yes!

I hadn't thought of that benefit. I don't know if this whole thing was intentional, but if it was, it is absolutely brilliant politics.

[EricMaundry]

48. I'm happy with it

Focuses attention on Trump's KKK allies.

[saltpoint]

54. I think it would only be a problem

if what she said were not true.

But, since at least Nixon, it is true. And Trump-Pence is dialing it up to dangerous levels.

Clinton's remarks put a little mustard on her fastball. Will likely come in handy in the weeks leading up to the election.

It serves as a handy demarcation line between the two top presidential tickets. It says: If you are proud to the bone of acting like a violent horse's ass, then Trump-Pence is your pick. But if you are a grown-up and are willing to work together with everybody to help solve genuine challenges facing your country, Clinton-Kaine is the right choice.

[Imperialism Inc.]

62. You really think "the middle" is unaware of Trump and his supporter's bigotry?

The undecideds are trying to decide if they will vote for him in spite of it not because they were unaware it exists. The deplorable aspect of Trump and his supporters is precisely why Clinton's lead was so much larger in August. This is reminding people of what they've set aside over the last month.

Remember the Clinton campaign is highly data driven. Their decision to emphasize this aspect of the Trump phenomena is being driven by what the data tells them moves voters. And Trump is taking the bait, and running that ridiculous ad that reminds everyone how much Trump's campaign is built on bigotry. Add to that the fact we've already had a Trump supporter smack around protester story since the whole thing came out and you have a winning strategy.

[piechartking]

63. This is the post I was looking for.

Haha. You're right. Although we can peer into the inner workings, we know that Camp HRC is data-driven, so this strategy is unlikely to be unplanned or spontaneous.

Trump, on the other hand, thinks data is "overrated". Thus, this whole focus on "deplorables" is most likely a manifestation of "going with your gut".

[Imperialism Inc.]

66. In the background to all this is her new ad that she began running

just this weekend. It starts off with Republican Senator Graham making similar points about Trump.

[yellowcanine]

70. Can't say but Clinton is making the most of it.....new killer ad based on Trump response.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512413812

[virgogal]

73. What is ironic about white people being "offended"?

Odd comment.

[piechartking]

76. sorry, I meant to say white bigots

I just wanted to convey that Trump supporters (and those white people who may not be Trump supporters, but are likely closet bigots) are overwhelmingly white, and highly likely to be bigoted - and now they get offended?

Sorry if I offended.

[virgogal]

86. You didn't offend at all---I was just curious. Cheers!

[doc03]

74. Trumps deplorables are going to vote for Trump anyway. Romney said 47%

of the entire population were takers. Hillary said 50% of Trump's supporters are the deplorable, I think the
number would be much higher than 50% based on the Trump supporters I know.

[jcgoldie]

77. White suburban women...

They are the only reason Trump has been spending his time creating the image that he's making an attempt to reach out to blacks and hispanics even though almost none of them will vote for him on election day after he's spent a year trashing them. But the calculation is that it allows those suburban whites to hold their noses and vote for him. I think that's the same reason Clinton said what she said and didn't back off it far. Hey soccer mom, do you really want to be lumped in with the rednecks and the racists? Think about it.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

81. I'm a white suburban woman, swing voting Independent

And I wouldn't vote for that rancid cheetos looking festering boil on the ass of humanity if you gave me all of his money.

In fact, I would walk 100 miles in a storm to vote for a steaming pile of dog shit if it ensured that douche canoe doesn't get elected.

[NHDEMFORLIFE]

83. This is the greatest summation of this campaign I've seen! n/t

[GoneOffShore]

84. Thanks for your concern.