2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum2016 is not a battle for the remaining "Undecideds". It's a battle for turnout of those who have
The only thing "undecideds" are making their minds up about is which light beer they prefer over the taste of phlegm. Or maybe over a 3rd party vote (Phlegm Lite?). But the real result will be based how many of the voters that have already decided, show up to cast that vote.
unblock
(52,325 posts)it explains a lot about presidential elections at least as far back as 2000.
doc03
(35,372 posts)they are excited about a candidate. I see very little enthusiasm for Clinton in this election, I think our best hope is people will come out to vote against Trump.
I am excited to vote for Hillary ...don't project your personal opinion on other voters. And if the fact that Trump could be president does not motivate you than you are not paying attention. I don't appreciate your bad mouthing of Hillary.
doc03
(35,372 posts)that enthusiastic about her? The Republicans have been attacking her for like 30 years and that has taken a toll,
that is a fact. Look at the polls her and Trump both have poor favorability ratings. Democrats turn out and vote
for a candidate they fall in love with like Bill Clinton or Obama. Look at the off years all those people that
voted Obama in office abandoned him in 2010 and 2012 and now we have a Republican House and Senate. The
same thing happened with Bill Clinton.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)doc03
(35,372 posts)this election will have a very low turnout.
radius777
(3,635 posts)especially amongst immigrants and Latinos, who are gearing up to take out Drumpf.
With all the intense coverage of this election, with record ratings etc, turnout will likely be higher than normal.
doc03
(35,372 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)and see her as an icon and a pioneer, especially amongst women and non-whites. After all, this is, for the most part how she won the primary, by attracting strong support from these core Democratic base constituencies.
And she has admitted that she isn't the type of charismatic campaigner that Bill and Obama were, and thus the enthusiasm and crowd sizes aren't what theirs were, as they also attracted young voters that she doesn't do well with. But Bill and Obama - along with Michelle Obama and Elizabeth Warren - will be out there campaigning for her to attract that turnout, along with bolstering the female and minority vote she already does very well with.
The far left has never liked the Clintons, and only liked Obama in 2008 when they thought he would be more liberal.
Demsrule86
(68,683 posts)First of all, you don't speak for everyone...there is plenty of excitement...and I am so sick of the "sigh Hillary is just not ...fill in the blank". I like Hillary Clinton very much and admire her. I want Hillary to win, and I am enthusiastic for our first woman president and your words are really a slap in the face to Hillary supporters. She won the primary, didn't she? She had the most votes despite the constant beating from the press. That doesn't happen if people don't like you and are not enthusiastic about your candidacy...when all is said and done,she won the nomination with the most votes...that indicates enthusiasm.
DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)I guess it depends on where you look.
TwilightZone
(25,480 posts)As hard as it is to believe, undecideds are a real thing (even this cycle) and there is a not-insigificant chunk of the public who pays little or no attention to the race until almost the very end, and makes up their mind in the final weeks. Some make up their minds as they enter the polling place.
Turnout is, of course, essential.
kacekwl
(7,021 posts)but it just booggles my mind why so few vote.