2016 Postmortem
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Nuff said.
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And with that, can we please stop calling the alt-right "populists" and "populist nationalists?" They're white nationalists, folks. Period.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)world wide wally
(21,754 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)characteristic that leads peoples to believe they have a natural right to attack others. Kinda like a two-fer of awfuls, white supremacism and national supremacy. And yes, these types do tend to have enormous overlap.
But still, different. Ron Paul was the chosen leader of a whole bunch of isolationist white supremacists hiding behind the Libertarian Party label. A bunch of them are now backing Trump, but many are still isolationist Libertarians unhappily supporting Johnson.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Upthevibe
(8,071 posts)tavernier
(12,400 posts)alt and supremacism an nationalism and heavens knows what else. Why don't they just say white trash so I know who they're referring to.
calimary
(81,466 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 10, 2016, 09:04 PM - Edit history (1)
Since nobody seems to like (or want) political correctness anymore, let's go for it!
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)The alt right are white supremacists and racists
Avalux
(35,015 posts)And now they're a basket of deplorables too.
Loki
(3,825 posts)No problem with that. Trump has made them all too visible now and we aren't backing down. You brought 'em to the dance, now you dance with 'em, and that's a shit boat of ugliness.
Hekate
(90,793 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)If they follow the usual pattern they'll claim "alt-right" is actually Left.
Don't let them get away with it.
SunSeeker
(51,697 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)freebrew
(1,917 posts)American Nazis.
lark
(23,155 posts)Why are people missing that connection? HIs favorite book is a book of Hitlers speeches which he's kept on his nightstand forever. It's the only reading we've heard about from him. He won't read anything else, too boring, so why this one? It's because he sees himself as Hitler and is trying to replicate why he did. Only it's not gypsies and Jews, it's Mexicans and Muslims. What he's lying about is helping the working class. That's the biggest lie. He said in the beginning that we were paid too much. That workers should be paid like they were in China, seriously, that's what he said. That and loving Russia and Putin and wanting to use nukes are probably the only true things he's said, that he actually means to do.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)On twitter they were in a tailspin. They don't know what to do with this form of aggrievement because it is factual. Either they have to double down on the persecution sydrome or go underground again. Either way they out themselves fully. I've seen these labels Joy put out there cropping up in tweets today. I hope those in the Trump camp who are queasy about this aspect of his campaign rhetoric are uncomfortable enough to distance themselves from the GOP in its current iteration. THey need to take a stand. Then again, if this is the hill the Republicans pick to die on, may that death be painful. THey'l have earned it.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Accountability is a bitch. And isn't it ironic that they have to dance with the racist, xenophobic piece of trash they took to the dance? And now they (may want) to ditch her? I don't think they do want to distance themselves from that because Trump IS racist. And he sure sets the tone for that campaign. And I think they will die on that hill. No sweat off my ass, for sure.
IAE, I hope at the very least, they go back underground. But I am hoping, moreso, that this basking in the light is an opportunity for us. We "see" them now and we have an obligation to address this. We can't ignore it any longer.
Zippyzagnut
(77 posts)They brought out all the dog whistles into the daylight, let's call them what they are. Haters.
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)She has more courage than the entire GOP combined.
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)But Joy doesn't let the lies go past.
Refreshing!
The Wizard
(12,547 posts)Triple K, whatever. They're anti American.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)These details away. She wants her questions answered and does not allow the diversions.
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)racist shitstains on the ass pimples of society!