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A request from Joy (Original Post) Skidmore Sep 2016 OP
Even "white nationalism" is a white-wash term for "white supremacism". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #1
yep Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #12
I thought it was another term for the racist asshole world wide wally Sep 2016 #16
And alt-right is a cleaned up term for Neo-Nazi. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2016 #17
No, nationalism is another dangerous, aggressive Hortensis Sep 2016 #19
Yes!!! +1,000 AgadorSparticus Sep 2016 #23
K & R Upthevibe Sep 2016 #2
Apt. TonyPDX Sep 2016 #3
Suddenly all these new terms, tavernier Sep 2016 #4
Yup! Preach it, sister! calimary Sep 2016 #5
Agreed Gothmog Sep 2016 #6
Let's go with white supremacists - the old school term. Avalux Sep 2016 #7
White nationalists it is. Loki Sep 2016 #8
Thank you, Joy. Hekate Sep 2016 #9
"Alt-right" is something they cooked up to distance "the right" from these racists... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #10
Exactly. We need to stop normalizing these hate-filled extremists. SunSeeker Sep 2016 #11
K&R! DemonGoddess Sep 2016 #13
Just call them what they are: freebrew Sep 2016 #14
100% right lark Sep 2016 #15
Nails it....AGAIN! LOVEJOY! AgadorSparticus Sep 2016 #18
White nationalist/supremacists were just hating it yesterday. Skidmore Sep 2016 #20
Exactly! I am glad to see them getting nailed for what they truly are AgadorSparticus Sep 2016 #22
Yep Zippyzagnut Sep 2016 #21
She's fast becoming a national treasure SticksnStones Sep 2016 #24
She's the only show I make sure to watch every single time. sarae Sep 2016 #27
Agreed.MSNBC has become so unwatchable of late SticksnStones Sep 2016 #28
White supremacists The Wizard Sep 2016 #25
They are white rat bastards. lonestarnot Sep 2016 #26
Hate coming from any direction is just bad. Glad Joy is calling out those who try to spin Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #29
we should be calling the alt-right what it is: gopiscrap Sep 2016 #30

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. No, nationalism is another dangerous, aggressive
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:37 PM
Sep 2016

characteristic that leads peoples to believe they have a natural right to attack others. Kinda like a two-fer of awfuls, white supremacism and national supremacy. And yes, these types do tend to have enormous overlap.

But still, different. Ron Paul was the chosen leader of a whole bunch of isolationist white supremacists hiding behind the Libertarian Party label. A bunch of them are now backing Trump, but many are still isolationist Libertarians unhappily supporting Johnson.

tavernier

(12,400 posts)
4. Suddenly all these new terms,
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 07:38 PM
Sep 2016

alt and supremacism an nationalism and heavens knows what else. Why don't they just say white trash so I know who they're referring to.

calimary

(81,466 posts)
5. Yup! Preach it, sister!
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 07:39 PM
Sep 2016

Last edited Sat Sep 10, 2016, 09:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Since nobody seems to like (or want) political correctness anymore, let's go for it!

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
7. Let's go with white supremacists - the old school term.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 08:28 PM
Sep 2016

And now they're a basket of deplorables too.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
8. White nationalists it is.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 08:30 PM
Sep 2016

No problem with that. Trump has made them all too visible now and we aren't backing down. You brought 'em to the dance, now you dance with 'em, and that's a shit boat of ugliness.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
10. "Alt-right" is something they cooked up to distance "the right" from these racists...
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 09:52 PM
Sep 2016

If they follow the usual pattern they'll claim "alt-right" is actually Left.

Don't let them get away with it.

lark

(23,155 posts)
15. 100% right
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:13 AM
Sep 2016

Why are people missing that connection? HIs favorite book is a book of Hitlers speeches which he's kept on his nightstand forever. It's the only reading we've heard about from him. He won't read anything else, too boring, so why this one? It's because he sees himself as Hitler and is trying to replicate why he did. Only it's not gypsies and Jews, it's Mexicans and Muslims. What he's lying about is helping the working class. That's the biggest lie. He said in the beginning that we were paid too much. That workers should be paid like they were in China, seriously, that's what he said. That and loving Russia and Putin and wanting to use nukes are probably the only true things he's said, that he actually means to do.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
20. White nationalist/supremacists were just hating it yesterday.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 01:52 PM
Sep 2016

On twitter they were in a tailspin. They don't know what to do with this form of aggrievement because it is factual. Either they have to double down on the persecution sydrome or go underground again. Either way they out themselves fully. I've seen these labels Joy put out there cropping up in tweets today. I hope those in the Trump camp who are queasy about this aspect of his campaign rhetoric are uncomfortable enough to distance themselves from the GOP in its current iteration. THey need to take a stand. Then again, if this is the hill the Republicans pick to die on, may that death be painful. THey'l have earned it.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
22. Exactly! I am glad to see them getting nailed for what they truly are
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 02:18 PM
Sep 2016

Accountability is a bitch. And isn't it ironic that they have to dance with the racist, xenophobic piece of trash they took to the dance? And now they (may want) to ditch her? I don't think they do want to distance themselves from that because Trump IS racist. And he sure sets the tone for that campaign. And I think they will die on that hill. No sweat off my ass, for sure.

IAE, I hope at the very least, they go back underground. But I am hoping, moreso, that this basking in the light is an opportunity for us. We "see" them now and we have an obligation to address this. We can't ignore it any longer.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
27. She's the only show I make sure to watch every single time.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 04:04 PM
Sep 2016

She has more courage than the entire GOP combined.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
29. Hate coming from any direction is just bad. Glad Joy is calling out those who try to spin
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 04:21 PM
Sep 2016

These details away. She wants her questions answered and does not allow the diversions.

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