Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSpare me the phony outrage over Clinton’s ‘basket of deplorables’ remark - Greg Sargent, WaPo
[font size="3"]
"The American people know what Trump is doing. A recent Quinnipiac poll found that American voters say by 59-36 that 'the way Trump talks appeals to bigotry.' " {that's 62%:38%_B USA}
[/font]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/09/10/spare-me-the-phony-outrage-over-clintons-basket-of-deplorables-remark/?utm_term=.8bd0cad254da
Lets stipulate at the outset that this kind of generalization is not defensible. Clinton should not have described half of Trumps supporters this way. People have all kinds of reasons for supporting their candidate party loyalty; reflexive negative partisanship; genuine distaste with the alternatives; meaningful, legitimate support for certain aspects of the candidates agenda, and not others; and so forth.
A Clinton spokesperson qualified these remarks in a series of tweets, pointing out that Clinton was talking about Trumps rally crowds, and noting that half of them appear to be alt-right types. But even so, Clinton doesnt know what ultimately is motivating half of Trumps rally attendees, and she should not claim to.
But if there is one group of people who should take their outrage about Clintons comments and stuff it in a very dark place, its Trump and his paid apologists, who unloaded in a series of tweets this morning. Trumps campaign even put out a statement claiming that Clinton revealed her true contempt for everyday Americans.
Oh, please. Two things can be true at the same time: First, Clinton overgeneralized about whats in the hearts and minds of Trump supporters. Second, her underlying characterization of the general nature of many of Trumps campaign appeals and her related observation that they really are successfully playing on the baser instincts of an untold number of Trumps supporters are 100 percent accurate.
(more)
I wonder what percentage of Trump's statements in speeches fall into the "the frightening others" or "us versus them" categories? What is that percentage after you take out those statements which are lies about Clinton or Obama.. 90%?
Xenophobia is just about his whole campaign.
InfoView thread info, including edit history
TrashPut this thread in your Trash Can (My DU » Trash Can)
BookmarkAdd this thread to your Bookmarks (My DU » Bookmarks)
5 replies, 888 views
ShareGet links to this post and/or share on social media
AlertAlert this post for a rule violation
PowersThere are no powers you can use on this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
ReplyReply to this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
Rec (13)
ReplyReply to this post
5 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Spare me the phony outrage over Clinton’s ‘basket of deplorables’ remark - Greg Sargent, WaPo (Original Post)
Bill USA
Sep 2016
OP
Response to Bill USA (Original post)
MichiganVote This message was self-deleted by its author.
demgrrrll
(3,590 posts)2. There is nothing about this on my MSN feed. That tells me that right now no one wants to touch
this with a 20 foot pole. That all may change in the next few hours. Josh Marshall says hold firm. This article is supportive. Wait and see.
B2G
(9,766 posts)3. Nothing? What outlets do you follow?? nt
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,192 posts)4. K&R
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)5. YES !! Clinton was right