2016 Postmortem
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(41,832 posts)lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)reiterating her comment. Good job, Hillary.
unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)you could divide Trump supporters into two groups...not mentioning any percentages. No one seemed to disagree or mind that characterization. It was using the term "half" that made people take notice, even though it is probably correct, it's smart of her to try and leave it more vague.
The amazing thing is that Trump says 20 much more outrageous things every day...and the press is paying attention to this??!!!
aka-chmeee
(1,132 posts)but the gist of it was after a "generalistic" slam there were some who were offended, at which point the person making the slam said words to the effect " I have displayed a general garment and YOU have declared that it fit you, hence you have no cause for anger at me!"
Sorry I couldn't recall exactly where it came from.
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)neeksgeek
(1,214 posts)There is a dinner, and a guest finds a comment by Paul Atreides insulting. His mother replies:
My son displays a general garment and you claim its cut to your fit?
aka-chmeee
(1,132 posts)Not surprising as I have read Dune(1) many times over the years. Yesterday was my 67th birthday (I used it for 52 yrs without causing it any harm; W steals the presidency and f***s it up for eternity) Probably would have come to me sometime this week! Edit to add my youngest daughter was named after Paul's mother Jessica.
riversedge
(70,299 posts)riversedge
(70,299 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)sheshe2
(83,898 posts)SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)Paladin
(28,272 posts)I sure as hell don't.
As far as the Trump goons and the MSM go, "regret" will be the only operative word in that statement. I wish she had stuck with every word of her original comments---they were forceful, they were well-chosen, and most of all, they were true.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)was quit clear last night when she said it...another day in the news for Hillary - yes, a good day indeed....
That whiny little hands orange pouty-mouth has been handed some of his own medicine.....now he has a reason to pout...
And no. it isn't an apology...it is clarity.....stepping back a bit, maybe - but she has the mic...now!
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)zenabby
(364 posts)She keeps saying "she was wrong"...so many times. No, she was NOT wrong. I read the first two lines and have no patience to read the rest, like most people - and go, there she goes again..always apologizing, always misspeaking, always using poor judgement. That's just not the way this works.
aeroman
(64 posts)Closer to 49.9%
paleotn
(17,956 posts)Cosmocat
(14,572 posts)and left it that ... There is no debating a LOT of his support is deplorable, let others dicker over the exact percentage.
SunSeeker
(51,697 posts)59% of Trump supporters are racist birthers. 59% of Trump supporters don't believe Obama was born in the US.
http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/poll-two-thirds-trump-supporters-think-obama-muslim
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)Are (and have been) Racists.... I ignored their hate garbage ... no more.
I have been able to 'weed out' those who support tRump... good riddance to bad rubbish.
I used to tolerate their 'opinions' - but no more. I'm Wide Awake.
Oscar the Grouch can try to work with them from now on.....
JohnnyLib2
(11,212 posts)The end.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)This is a carefully scripted event, let's say Hillary would have said some or many trump supports are deplorable, press would not have picked it up, she intentionally made this gaffe to bring back focus on trump campaign and the hate they are spreading. Well done...
DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)JMHO
democrattotheend
(11,607 posts)I don't think it does that at all. I think it doubles down and pointedly refuses to apologize for anything but the percentage.
I am proud to see her call a spade a spade.
Cosmocat
(14,572 posts)the first few sentences were the walk back.
NOW, for a democrat, this is not bad in that regard.
But, she should have just said she omitted "give or take" as in 50% give or take, and then said the rest.
shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)STFU Donny has been rollin' like this for over a year now. Good on Hillary - the media can't get enough. To the previous observations, Hillary should not apologize nor say she was wrong. But she's learning (and maybe so are the Democrats?).
She should say IMO -" . . . of course I don't know whether half of his supporters have deplorable views. Maybe it's more like 70% or maybe it's only 40%. That's not the point. tRump has surrounded himself with right wing racists and xenophobes and has attracted the support of white supremacists, the nazi party, the kkk and armageddonists. You know - people who are wrong. He has no shame. And neither do his supporters."
But it' a start.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)BUT, the alt right knows Obama and the rest of us try to play chess while they are playing dirty as hell. ANY apology is seen as weakness, ANY, so yes, we might have to trade halos for horns.
MirrorAshes
(1,262 posts)She could have said the exact same thing while saying "the size of the group I'm talking about probably isn't half, but..."
Now she needs to double down on it so the "walkback" isn't the story. Keep fighting!
Rex
(65,616 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts)..."Hillary regrets her deplorable comment," or words to that effect.