"We're Just Making it Less Comfortable for Women to Kill their Babies"

[K Gardner]

I posted this over at Kos, but wanted to publish it over here as well. Facebook is just a goldmine of GOP Idiocy these days. Always good to know what the "other side" is thinking ! I know there has been a post in Gen Discussion about this newest of Tennessee Idiocy, but this one is being voted on TODAY.

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This is the comment I just received on my FB page after I posted a link to the Pending Tennessee Bill that would publish doctor's names/addresses and identifying information about women undergoing legal abortion procedures.

This is the mentality of the WOMEN of the Republican Party who are falling in line with all the backward-trending laws being proposed in state legislatures all across the country. I just want to give a little glimpse into the mind of a Republican Evangelical Woman.

Here is the excange:

GOP Woman:"I think they are just trying to make it less comfortable for women to kill their babies. Thinking perhaps they might be more careful to use birth control? The goal is to prevent deaths, not to embarrass anyone. The woman has the RIGHT TO CHOOSE which way to go."

?ME: "Less comfortable for women to kill their babies"? You seriously said that. You seriously believe that it is "comfortable" for any woman to make that choice? As far as birth control, how are women supposed to use it when the Party you are obviously aligned with wants to take access to contraception away from women? Unbelievable.

GOP Woman: "Don't fall for the media's distortions. The ONLY women affected by the contraception discussion are those who choose to get their insurance through Catholic institutions. Baptists, Jews, or Athiests are not affected at all. The Catholic institutions NEVER DID offer contraception (because they believe it is a sin), so NO ONE had their contraception taken away, not one person. Only an idiot (useful idiot for the campaign strategists) would submit to such an institution, and then complain about their practices. Are you going to go to a Kosher deli and then complain because you cannot get a ham sandwich? Same thing. Please look into it. (BTW, condoms are free without making Catholics pay for them.)

GOP Woman Continues: Do you seriously think that this woman who chose to get insurance through a Catholic institution had her contraception taken away when they have ALWAYS thought it was wrong? Think it through. Look it up. You are being played for the sake of election year politics. Your own party is deceiving you and using you. (And you want more of them?) I would give you a link, but you might not trust the source, so look it up on your own. She NEVER had contraception through them (no one did), so NO ONE had it taken away. Ad hominem attacks are common when a person cannot argue from the facts.

GOP Woman Starts to Unhinge:"BTW, the constitution does not allow the government to force its religious beliefs (contraception) on others. I also think the publishing of personal info is probably an invasion of privacy, but they seem to be doing everything they can to try to discourage women from using abortion as birth control. It is telling how you jumped from the abortion issue straight to contraception. How about killing newborns? How about partial birth abortion? How about killing old people? Where do you draw the line? Does the line move? What ever happened to Thou shalt not murder? You can join 50 Catholic organizations, but if you believe killing babies is okay, you are no Catholic, and you deceive yourself."

It seems to me that all these barbaric bills, introduced from sea to shining sea, have been timed to explode like IEDs all around the country. Pundits and pollsters have seemed flummoxed that GOP Women are voting for Santorum and seemingly in favor of these medievil policies. Well, that's because they ARE voting for it, because they believe in it.

Never think we don't have a battle on our hands. We do.

I'm fairly sure this issue has been covered here, and this has been featured on MSNBC all day, but if you are wondering WTF is happening in Tennessee, read more below:

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A Bill being voted upon today in the Tennessee State Legislature would require the publication of the names of doctors who perform abortions to a website. It would also require the following information about the woman receiving abortion to be published to a website: age, marital status, prior births, prior abortions, etc.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-tennessee-abortion-bill-20120319,0,3304370.story

"Although the bill states that patients will not be identified in the reports, it says the documents must include the woman's county, age, race, marital status, plus her number of prior pregnancies, number of prior abortions, the gestational age of the fetus, and her preexisting medical conditions. That, critics say, could make it easy to guess identities, particularly in sparsely populated rural areas."

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120319/NEWS0201/303190022/TN-bill-mandates-publication-abortion-data

"The Life Defense Act contains two parts. The first would require doctors to have admitting privileges at a hospital near where they perform abortions, while the second would require the Department of Health to release more information on abortions, including the name of the doctor who performed the procedure and demographics about the women who receive them."

[SamG]

1. Giving you the first Rec. "publication of the names of doctors"

That, in and of itself, is a TERRORIST ACT!

Whoever votes in favor of this bill, arrest them! They are terrorist sympathizers! Get them off to GTMO!

[K Gardner]

3. I agree.. this is absolutely BEYOND the pale. Thanks for the rec..

this is a horrible subject to even have to cover.

[abelenkpe]

2. GOP woman accused a dem of being a useful idiot?

[K Gardner]

4. I know, right?! I did congratulate her on being "published"..

and encouraged her to just keep talking...

[K Gardner]

6. Oops.. replied in wrong spot.. actually, looking closer...

she was calling anyone who worked at a catholic institution a "useful idiot". And while bashing anyone who listens to the "media", she quoted exactly the Fox News Talking Point about the Kosher Deli.

They're predictable, I'll give 'em that.

[sinkingfeeling]

7. Wrong GOP woman. 28 states have laws requiring anything except the church

itself to provide contraception via insurance. The language the Feds used is almost identical to that in Arkansas 2217 signed in 2005.

[K Gardner]

8. Good point. n/t

[JHB]

9. She's also wrong about who "ONLY" is affected...

...since she obsessed about the Fluke case and is ignoring ongoing attempts to pass "personhood" laws that affect contraception too.

The only one believing distortions is her.

[polichick]

10. You're so right - we do have a battle on our hands...

The same women who continue to support churches that consider them second class citizens will continue to support a party that considers them second class citizens. Women like that make me sad.

[obxhead]

11. She fires off the shot that kills her own argument

"BTW, the constitution does not allow the government to force its religious beliefs (contraception) on others."

Well, she's right. The government is not allowed to force religious beliefs. However, using contraception, or requiring insurance companies to cover the cost is not a religious belief.

The religious belief as far as contraception is concerned would be any ban of it. Only religion calls for control on contraception.

[K Gardner]

12. I know ! And none of the idiots introducing these intrusive

bills seem to get that. It would seem the opposite, that they're trying to impose THEIR religious beliefs on the rest of the country.

[Louisiana1976]

13. K&R

[Ilsa]

14. The hospital privilege rule is crap.

Pregnancy termination is an outpatient procedure that falls under the same scope as other outpatient procedures. The centers are regulated and inspected like any surgery center. Another bogus barrier thrown up to deceive and make it difficult to have a safe place to have an abortion.

[K Gardner]

15. Exactly correct. Another good point to remember. n/t

[Shannon1981]

16. Who the hell

thinks an abortion is a comfortable decision? I had sworn I'd never reveal my own plight, but in light of this horrible situation, I have been. I am gay. As in, Kinsey 6 homosexual. However, I got into a mutually agreed upon sham of a relationship with a guy when I was 25 and attempting to live the straight life and get my homophobic family off my back. He eventually wanted more, became abusive, and raped me. I got pregnant. I had to leave with-literally- the clothes on my back. I was in no condition to take care of myself at the time, much less a child. So, yes, I had an abortion at 13 weeks. I am sure people in the GOP have my sympathy for people in my position, but I'll be damned if I let this country get to a place to where any woman has to carry a fetus, for any reason, if she does not want to/can't. You never know where people are or where they have been, and its fucking disgusting to put people through even more pain than they are already in. I am convinced that these people have absolutely NO humanity.

[otohara]

17. What about the men?

Every gal I knew who had an abortion made the decision based on a discussion with the donor/boyfriend...these men had no interest in haning a baby back then.
Many paid for the procedure.