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JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:12 AM Sep 2016

Young Blacks Voice Skepticism on Hillary Clinton, Worrying Democrats

WASHINGTON — When a handful of liberal advocacy organizations convened a series of focus groups with young black voters last month, the assessments of Donald J. Trump were predictably unsparing.

But when the participants were asked about Hillary Clinton, their appraisals were just as blunt and nearly as biting.

“What am I supposed to do if I don’t like him and I don’t trust her?” a millennial black woman in Ohio asked. “Choose between being stabbed and being shot? No way!”

“She was part of the whole problem that started sending blacks to jail,” a young black man, also from Ohio, observed about Mrs. Clinton.

“He’s a racist, and she is a liar, so really what’s the difference in choosing both or choosing neither?” another young black woman from Ohio said.


Read more at the link: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/05/us/politics/young-blacks-voice-skepticism-on-hillary-clinton-worrying-democrats.html

Hillary needs to stop chasing neoconservative votes and go after these people and other leftists.
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Young Blacks Voice Skepticism on Hillary Clinton, Worrying Democrats (Original Post) JRLeft Sep 2016 OP
More bullshit by corporate media Iliyah Sep 2016 #1
The writer is a Republican operative. nt DURHAM D Sep 2016 #2
This is drivel from a Republican. nt DURHAM D Sep 2016 #3
It's not and she's not helping herself by standing with republicans. JRLeft Sep 2016 #5
That reporter worked for Republicans on the Hill for years. nt DURHAM D Sep 2016 #6
You do realize her chasing republican votes helps normalize the GOP JRLeft Sep 2016 #7
Did you have a problem Andy823 Sep 2016 #27
Post removed Post removed Sep 2016 #35
Your not helping yourself by saying Hillary is standing with republicans. upaloopa Sep 2016 #8
She is! She continues to persue neocon support. JRLeft Sep 2016 #11
While it's true those people have endorsed her, it's not true that she's "standing" with them on any BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #14
Kissinger is not endorsing Clinton or Trump, IIRC Chitown Kev Sep 2016 #39
What positions has she changed since the primary? tia uponit7771 Sep 2016 #31
It's drivel. Trump is registering less than 1% with black voters brush Sep 2016 #10
A lot of people dislike both. JRLeft Sep 2016 #12
She will, and Trump will turn out nothing from AAs, and much less than Romey from Latinos brush Sep 2016 #17
You know that black voters will turn out for her the way we have for Obama? JRLeft Sep 2016 #20
Me, my friends, family and living in the black community, that's what evidence. brush Sep 2016 #28
So you're not black? I am and a lot of us don't care for I'm voting against JRLeft Sep 2016 #36
Huh? Is there a comprehension problem? Re-read my post. brush Sep 2016 #42
People dislike Trump because of what *HE SAYS*. baldguy Sep 2016 #18
You believe that's the only reason? JRLeft Sep 2016 #21
Yes. That's the only reason. baldguy Sep 2016 #25
For the most part, there's very little relative to tRump that's she's done that deserves the disdain uponit7771 Sep 2016 #33
I do. . . daligirrl Sep 2016 #26
So blacks are choosing the racist thief in notable numbers?! I don't think so uponit7771 Sep 2016 #32
Link and quote her "standing with republicans" in any kind of policy way!? tia uponit7771 Sep 2016 #29
AAs and it's younger voters are not gonna let a racist like T-rump near the WH Iliyah Sep 2016 #4
Bullshit written by a Republican...imagine that! This was addressed yesterday...nt. Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #9
Sad that these young AA voters have a perception of HRC based on lies and misinformation BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #13
RW author can't lift Trump, so tries to push Hillary down. JoePhilly Sep 2016 #15
What specifically leads you to believe she is not? LanternWaste Sep 2016 #16
Her donors and rhetoric. JRLeft Sep 2016 #22
Her donors come from all walks of life. NCTraveler Sep 2016 #24
Mitt Romney, Ronald Reagan, and Bush donors if they're OK with her JRLeft Sep 2016 #37
Not in the least. Nt NCTraveler Sep 2016 #40
Hopefully the president can help with that democrattotheend Sep 2016 #19
If you're chasing your base this late in the game, reflection Sep 2016 #23
+1, very few credible stats in the article uponit7771 Sep 2016 #30
Trump is the one losing in Republican states Democat Sep 2016 #41
A lot of young Blacks aren't thrilled with Hillary. Instead of dismissing them find out why that is UMTerp01 Sep 2016 #34
Without President Obama like turnout from black people the race will be razor thin. JRLeft Sep 2016 #38
 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
7. You do realize her chasing republican votes helps normalize the GOP
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:32 AM
Sep 2016

and it makes both political parties look like one party instead of 2 contrasting ideas.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
27. Did you have a problem
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:07 PM
Sep 2016

When republicans were being courted by Bernie? I think you need to realize she won, she knows what she is doing, and if republicans want to voter for her, or endorse her, it does not mean she sold out to them.

Response to Andy823 (Reply #27)

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
8. Your not helping yourself by saying Hillary is standing with republicans.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:32 AM
Sep 2016

Neither you nor the article give any actual names or evidence.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
11. She is! She continues to persue neocon support.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:54 AM
Sep 2016

Negroponte, Wolfowitz, Kissinger, and many more. She hardly resembles herself from the primary anymore. Hopefully she sees the light.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
14. While it's true those people have endorsed her, it's not true that she's "standing" with them on any
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 12:19 PM
Sep 2016

specific policy or issue. Your argument is ill-informed at best, if not openly dishonest.

brush

(53,801 posts)
10. It's drivel. Trump is registering less than 1% with black voters
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:41 AM
Sep 2016

I repeat, LESS THAN 1% WITH BLACK VOTERS!

Can't get more embarrassing and pathetic than that so please stop posting made up crap from repug reporter/operatives.

No one is falling for it.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
12. A lot of people dislike both.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:55 AM
Sep 2016

The question should be can she turn out black people in similar or higher numbers than Obama. I do not know that answer.

brush

(53,801 posts)
17. She will, and Trump will turn out nothing from AAs, and much less than Romey from Latinos
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 03:11 PM
Sep 2016

But your concern is duly noted.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
20. You know that black voters will turn out for her the way we have for Obama?
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 08:28 PM
Sep 2016

Based on what evidence?

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
36. So you're not black? I am and a lot of us don't care for I'm voting against
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 01:30 AM
Sep 2016

Trump not because I think she's great, because she's not. She's far better than he is.

brush

(53,801 posts)
42. Huh? Is there a comprehension problem? Re-read my post.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 10:44 AM
Sep 2016

I'm black, many of my friends are, I live in the black community.

How do you get out of that that I am not black?

And what does your post mean?

"So you're not black? I am and a lot of us don't care for I'm voting against
Trump not because I think she's great, because she's not. She's far better than he is."


It's not coherent.


 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
18. People dislike Trump because of what *HE SAYS*.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 07:04 PM
Sep 2016

People dislike Clinto because of what **IS SAID ABOUT HER** - by people like Trump and other Republicans, like the author of the article linked in the OP.

There is no comparison between the two.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
25. Yes. That's the only reason.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 09:29 PM
Sep 2016

To believe otherwise is to unquestioningly accept several million tons of RW elephant shit they've dished out to the American public as steak & pie over the last 30 yrs. Some have been stupid enough to eat it.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
33. For the most part, there's very little relative to tRump that's she's done that deserves the disdain
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:00 PM
Sep 2016

daligirrl

(620 posts)
26. I do. . .
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:01 PM
Sep 2016

And it is YES! I don't know if people just don't want to believe it or don't care, but minorities are going to vote for Hillary like their lives depended on it, which is actually true. I could go on and on, but I won't.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
13. Sad that these young AA voters have a perception of HRC based on lies and misinformation
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:58 AM
Sep 2016

This is why it was important to be honest back during the primary, instead of how Michelle Alexander behaved.

Clinton should court votes from people who deal in reality, which excludes both neoconservatives AND "other leftists."

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
15. RW author can't lift Trump, so tries to push Hillary down.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 12:22 PM
Sep 2016

Goal ... get black people to stay home.

Same BS, different day.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. What specifically leads you to believe she is not?
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 12:41 PM
Sep 2016

"and go after these people and other leftists..."

What specifically leads you to believe she is not?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
24. Her donors come from all walks of life.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 08:51 PM
Sep 2016

And she has by far the best platform with respect to moving toward a more just government and society.

I find it hard to believe you typed that in honest.

That being said, POC have good reason to be skeptical. It would be a fine conversation had it not been started with a deceptive article written by a republican. That is the statement being made here.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
19. Hopefully the president can help with that
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 07:16 PM
Sep 2016

Both because he's in a unique position to be able to vouch for her trustworthiness and because he is popular among young blacks.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
23. If you're chasing your base this late in the game,
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 08:41 PM
Sep 2016

It's over anyway. But I don't think she is and it's going to take a lot more than this anecdotal stuff to sway me on that.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
41. Trump is the one losing in Republican states
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 05:54 AM
Sep 2016

He's struggling to keep the states that should be easy on his side. Clinton is doing well in some Republican states that she should have no chance.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
34. A lot of young Blacks aren't thrilled with Hillary. Instead of dismissing them find out why that is
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 12:11 AM
Sep 2016

nt

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
38. Without President Obama like turnout from black people the race will be razor thin.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 01:34 AM
Sep 2016

I think she still wins but this race should not be close.

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