2016 Postmortem
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It's depressing how close the race has been getting. But it's not a good time to worry. It's a great time to get involved in turning out the vote because of how Congress might go. But there's still not much room for doubt that Clinton will win the election.
Examine the EC map below. Look at the green. In order for Trump to win, he'd have to win Florida AND Ohio AND Pennsylvania AND North Carolina AND Arizona just to reach 270. He's not going to do that.
Just FYI on most recent polling: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/state/
Pennsylvania - Clinton up by 8
North Carolina - Clinton up by 4
Virginia - Clinton up by 1 (but a four-way poll a week ago had Clinton up by 16... hmmm)
Ohio - Tied at 43% each
Florida - Clinton up by 2
So there's cause for concern. There's motivation for getting involved. There is no real cause for worry.
Wounded Bear
(58,713 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,861 posts)or it could be a rough sea ahead.
redwitch
(14,947 posts)I still don't like how close it is but she has this. A lot of idiots in this country voting for him but not nearly enough for him to win it. Let's not panic unless he is somehow able to win a debate. If he actually shows up for one.
Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)And I have not intention of panicking over bad polls and by bad I mean the poll themselves are worthless.
redwitch
(14,947 posts)I want him totally humiliated so he goes away and has no shot at a new TV gig. I don't want the rest of the world to think we are total lunatics.
Bucky
(54,068 posts)will start to copy his more effective scams. We're already drifting in a fascisty direction. Trump losing in a squeaker, with pundits & political consultants concluding he only lost because of his potty mouth and a failure to mask his outright racism, will be a toxin in our politics for a generation.
LenaBaby61
(6,977 posts)Being taken in by that bogus land line ONLY Emerson poll which is bringing down Hillary's other EC numbers.
Virginia and NH are NOT toss ups, but when you poll only land lines and mostly non-white voters like Emerson does, then well you're bound to get the types of polling numbers which when added in with better polling drives down Hillary Clinton's poll numbers. If Emerson keeps using their type of polling methods, very shortly tRump--per the Emerson poll--will be within striking distance of Hillary in California and New York
Bucky
(54,068 posts)I never said Trump was close in NY or Cali. Did you read my post before responding?
LenaBaby61
(6,977 posts)Maybe I didn't make myself clear. SORRY.
I meant that some of these right winged pollsters (Like Emerson or Rasmussen) will be saying that tRump is closing in on Hillary in NY and CA.
I didn't mean YOU said that or had a poll saying that. All of the pop-up right-winged pollsters with their right-leaning polls mixed in with the more consistent/better polling dragging Hillary's numbers down.
Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)She is winning. He will not win PA nor Ohio. I live in Ohio...The media wants a horserace...this is the same shit they pulled with Romney.
Virginia and Colorado are not toss ups. Pennsylvania and New New Hampshire (especially) almost definitely not toss ups either. And add Georgia to toss ups. Possibly also Missouri, South Carolina and Nebraska. My sister lives in Omaha and says even a lot of farmers like Hillary's ideas. Omaha will probably go for Hillary.