Rachel: Kellyanne Conway lied to my face.

[madaboutharry]

Rachel directly asked Kellyanne Conway if Roger Ailes was advising or working on the Trump campaign. Conway denied it and said she wasn't at an August 14th meeting in which Trump met with Ailes. But NYT says Ailes and Conway were together at another meeting a few days later and Ailes is advising.

Rachel is pissed and said "She lied to my face and I want an explanation."

[onehandle]

1. Kellyanne Conway is an asshole.

Assholes lie.

End of explanation.

[area51]

26. +1 n/t

[Siwsan]

2. And Rachel is surprised by this??

It's pretty much what I expected, from the moment Ms Conway started her high speed blithering.

[Duckhunter935]

3. She should not be

Has she been on any of the shows lately? Seems like her and the what's her name, spokesperson are now MIA

[Maru Kitteh]

32. Katrina Pierson, the shoplifting welfare cheat?

I haven't seen her for a while, except for one time when I took a peek at Faux, but that was several days ago. They're both| suddenly *poof*

I wonder if the campaign has just actually given up entirely on the female vote, if Bannon has vanquished the "little ladies." Told them to go make him a sandwich.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

63. I think KellyAnn Conway was pissed at tRump for the tone of his immigration speech

It seems he hasn't listened to a thing she's been saying.

[bettyellen]

38. Nope but she is playing it up, and that is awesome!

[trueblue2007]

4. i want the VIDEO OF THIS SEGMENT!!! I wanna put it on my facebook wall

Sooooooooooooooooooooo the stupid friends who are GOP's can hear that Rumps campaign honcho LIED to Rachel Maddow !!!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

17. I bet they will care not one bit.

[Zo Zig]

5. Where is KellyAnne?

In the bunker will Dick?


Edit When to Where

[sheshe2]

6. Kellyanne Kellyanne...

We see you.

[kacekwl]

8. She will most certainly

wind up at Faux News after she quits is fired or when Trumpet loses.

[okaawhatever]

12. Or the new Trump/Ailes media outlet. Since she's a woman I"m pretty sure she'll be thrown

under the bus by Trump as one of the reasons he lost.

[Maru Kitteh]

33. She's too old for FOX. Only men are allowed to age there.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

74. I don't even know who she is, but I don't doubt that

For one second.

Hiring female talent? Fux's only job expectations would be legs and tata's

Ability to lie, and a complete inability to think independently.

[Hieronymus]

7. Good for Rachel for exposing Kellyanne's lie on air. Kellyanne just seems so sneaky.

[alcibiades_mystery]

9. Rachel's middle class

She doesn't know how to street fight.

[Coal]

10. Yeah she did!

Conway flat out lied, but everyone in Trump's crew lie, all the time. It's a total chaotic ball of fire and they are all getting burned!
It also consumes all that come in contact with them, but none will be burned worst than "Bishop" Wayne T Jackson, the Detroit preacher who has sold his soul to the devil. The closed door meeting takes place tomorrow Saturday, 9/3/2016.
BTW, Trump and his people are so lazy they missed this.

https://spiritualsoundingboard.com/2013/01/09/spiritual-abuse-false-teachers-use-sex-to-abuse/


I kind of doubt they would go to this church had they seen this, but with Trump you never know, after all "he's a Washington outsider". All they had to do is a web search. It is said Mark Burns facilitated this meeting, the same Mark Burns who tweeted the black face Hillary Clinton cartoon and who just got caught in a lie about his education by CNN's Victor Blackwell. He sat there shell shocked.
Busted!

[COLGATE4]

11. Sometimes Rachel's naivete surprises me.

I mean, who would ever have thought that one of Trump's Campaign Managers would ever lie when being interviewed by a Liberal TV host? Unthinkable.

[Zambero]

15. Rachel was two chess moves ahead of Conway

Of course she knew that Conway was lying about Ailes. Of course she knew the truth would come out, and she prefaced that eventuality with the appropriate question. And of course Rachel knows full well that professional journalists refrain from labeling the subject of an interview as being a liar, when it good time they may very well reveal it for themselves. And bingo, that is precisely what happened. Rachel called Conway out as soon as the truth surfaced, and she knew early-on that it was just a matter of time . It just didn't happen in real time, nor could it.

[Native]

16. Truth

[COLGATE4]

27. If that's true, why did she start the entire

segment telling the world that she was upset because she had been lied to? If she was two steps ahead as you maintain there's no reason for her to be making a big deal over it now.

[bettyellen]

39. You;re suggesting she should stay silent about a huge lie like that. LOL, NOPE.

[COLGATE4]

42. No. I'm suggesting that she was naively taken in by BFF Kellyann

during the 'interview' and that now letting us know how pissed she is that - unbelievably - Conway lied to her is not really very informative except as it regards Rachel's discernment.

[bettyellen]

43. You're saying it is not news that Ailes is secretly working for the campaign and they are lying

about it? And that this is all about Rachel's hurt feelings, nothing to see here? LOL. Nope, Rachel is way too professional. The fact that she treats people with respect seems to have confused you.

It's news and she is reporting it. For fucks sake we should appreciate that every time a reporter does this. It's all too rare.

[COLGATE4]

45. Hasn't been news for several days now. Rachel just had to let us know

how upset she is that Kellyann didn't play fair with her.

[bettyellen]

47. Still not sure why correcting the record on her show is somehow a bad thing? This smells personal.

whats the source of your grudge?

[COLGATE4]

50. Nothing personal. No grudge. Just commenting on

what I thought was a silly segment.

[bettyellen]

52. Correcting the record is "silly" now? Not on planet earth, but I get it... Rachel was thrown under

the bus a while ago, the grudge continues. Fuck that- she is one of the best and brightest on TV.

[JoePhilly]

65. YUP, Rachel set Conway up at least 3 times in that interview.

My favorite was when she got Conway to connect Trump's Muslim ban with the Red Scare of the 50s.

Conway had no idea what the red scare was, and so was OK connecting them as if both were positive events.

[Fast Walker 52]

68. seriously... for such a "smart" person, she's really dumb, or acts that way

[COLGATE4]

72. She's highly intelligent but she just isn't attuned to all the

nasty crap that goes on in the real world.

[Fast Walker 52]

75. why not? She's a reporter for a major news agency. She's covered war, at least from her desk.

I think she puts on a big act. I quit watching her show several months ago, her act got way too tiresome for me.

[COLGATE4]

77. You may well be right about it being an act. And I completely agree

that it's getting really tiresome.

[lupinella]

13. Loved this!

To those of you who think she was naive, it was a direct answer to a direct question.

Not only did KC lie by commission, by saying Ailes wasn't an unofficial advisor, but also by omission, by not mentioning another date where KC supposedly was there along with Ailes.
She could have simply said that the one time she saw Ailes it was during a non-policy luncheon.

Rachel Maddow expects evasions or lies, but this one came from someone who thought she had covered her tracks.

It was Rachel, so it was still polite & grounded, but underneath was a glorious righteous fury.

[DURHAM D]

14. Yawn.

Rachel was so flattered to have Gabby Mouth Conway on her show that she took her at face value? Proves once again that Rachel is bright but not smart.

[ashtonelijah]

18. Nah. Just proves you're thinking of checkers while Rachel was playing chess

[DURHAM D]

20. Rachel was playing give away checkers.

She is just so childish.

[ashtonelijah]

22. Childish? Because She doesn't act like a left wing Hannity or O'Reilly?

[bettyellen]

44. Some people think the angry scolding thing is better than cool professionalism. I sure do not.

[COLGATE4]

28. Yep. They were giddy together at the end of the interview.

This was her 'big catch', getting an interview with Motormouth Conway. So she lets Conway get away with her Gish Gallop of falsehoods, believing at that time that Conway was telling the truth. Now, when she discovers that - surprise! - Conway was lying to her, Rachel dedicates a segment to telling her audience how pissed she is that Conway lied to her. And here she though that they were going to be BFF's.

[bettyellen]

40. Flattered? That is some weird projection you are doing. She is respectful to her guests, but

allows them to step in shit if they want to- then calls them on it with evidence. Good on her. Flattered my ass, she is a professional.

[whathehell]

37. It's you.

She looks her age, but why is that relevant to anything in an industry in which geriatric males fourish? ...Oh, I forgot. Only men are

allowed the privilege of aging.

[Agnosticsherbet]

54. +1000

[whathehell]

76. Thank you.

After hearing that fat old Roger Ailes thinks attractive women 30 years his junior "should be in a sexual relationship" with him, the last thing

I want to hear are critiques on the looks of ANY woman in the media.

[Not Sure]

21. Fans of wrestling everywhere are unimpressed

The "theater" of this campaign is clearly aimed at keeping things interesting to inflate the ratings. They need to step up their game.

[senseandsensibility]

23. okay, so rachel said this somewhere

link, please? otherwise, I will assume she continues to be giddy that lakellyanne deigned to appear on her show.

[pinboy3niner]

24. The Rachel Maddow Show 9/2/16

Did Trump's campaign manager lie to Rachel Maddow's face?

Rachel Maddow replays Donald Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway's recent answer about the lack of any role by Roger Ailes in the Trump campaign, and then points out several new reports that show Ailes advising the campaign in one case with Conway present. Duration: 5:35

Video at link:
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show

[COLGATE4]

29. No, because Conway's treachery ruined her BFF moment.

[bettyellen]

48. She enjoys her work, so sue her. She asks more relevant questions than most, but please continue to

criticize her for not being dour and punitive. We all know how dour and punitive works out.

[UCmeNdc]

25. Another proven liar in Donald Trump's campaign

Well, who would have ever thought that would happen?

[COLGATE4]

30. Rachel?

[bettyellen]

46. Are you trashing Rachel Maddow as a liar? On what basis?

Sounds like some sour grapes to me.

[COLGATE4]

49. Reading comprehension is an important skill.

If you look at the exchange between the question asked:

Star Member UCmeNdc (3,370 posts)
25. Another proven liar in Donald Trump's campaign

Well, who would have ever thought that would happen?

and my answer:

"Rachel?"

Which suggests that Rachel could/should have considered that a spokesperson from the Trump campaign might be a liar. There is nothing that suggests that Rachel is a liar.

[Maru Kitteh]

31. Glad Rachel called her out on it but - DUH. Conway is a Republican, it's what they do.

. . . . ..

[vlyons]

34. Trump and everyone associated with him lies

and we're supposed to be surprised? Here's my surprised face

[riversedge]

35. Rec. You go gal

[jodymarie aimee]

36. yes Rachel WAS giddy at her GET

and it was disgusting. WE were pissed. Rachel is superbly researched, so this LIE is no big surprise to her. HARUMP all she wants, she is becoming a sellout. All we have left are Joy and Lawrence.

Notice Rachel is not playing her game show Friday give away these days....

[bettyellen]

53. She often has a giddy demeanor. She calls someone out for lying and you pretend she is kissing

their ass? That makes zero sense.
She was giddy over close races on primary night because it shows every vote matters- and not because she cares more about her candidate winning. People are projecting their own crap on her like crazy.

[tblue37]

41. Lying liars lie. Quelle surprise! nt

[saidsimplesimon]

51. +1 tblue

Research is the friend of reporters, journalists and pundits.

[MyNameGoesHere]

55. Is there a Colgate street in Durham?

Just wondering.

[AgadorSparticus]

56. C'MOOOOON, RACHEL!!! You are NOT this naive.

It is like the Mexican trump taco guy saying he didn't think Trump was this bad. Trump has always been trump with his bullshit wall and blatant racism.

Conway makes a living at spinning and lying. Rachel had other motives for having Conway on and going soft on her. An

[oberliner]

57. Duh

This is what every Trump surrogate does on every network.

[busterbrown]

58. Gish Gallop..Yep

Love this definition...If you have not run into the Gish...Please be aware.
From Urban Dictionary

Named for the debate tactic created by creationist shill Duane Gish, a Gish Gallop involves spewing so much bullshit in such a short span on that your opponent can’t address let alone counter all of it. To make matters worse a Gish Gallop will often have one or more 'talking points' that has a tiny core of truth to it, making the person rebutting it spend even more time debunking it in order to explain that, yes, it's not totally false but the Galloper is distorting/misusing/misstating the actual situation. A true Gish Gallop generally has two traits.

1) The factual and logical content of the Gish Gallop is pure bullshit and anybody knowledgeable and informed on the subject would recognize it as such almost instantly. That is, the Gish Gallop is designed to appeal to and deceive precisely those sorts of people who are most in need of honest factual education.

2) The points are all ones that the Galloper either knows, or damn well should know, are totally bullshit. With the slimier users of the Gish Gallop, like Gish himself, its a near certainty that the points are chosen not just because the Galloper knows that they're bullshit, but because the Galloper is deliberately trying to shovel as much bullshit into as small a space as possible in order to overwhelm his opponent with sheer volume and bamboozle any audience members with a facade of scholarly acumen and factual knowledge.

[oberliner]

59. I wish people could just be honest

Everybody should just present their case for what they believe and why instead of playing these games.

I have a lot more respect for the Republicans that actually have principles (misguided and wrongheaded as they may be) and present their arguments as opposed to the ones who just do nothing but spin and BS.

There is just no point with some of these Trump-heads who will just blindly defend anything and everything he says and does to the point of just obvious ridiculousness.

[busterbrown]

60. Not being facetious ..

but please mention a republican who you respect who holds office today.

[oberliner]

61. Susan Collins

She seems like a relatively reasonable Republican.

[busterbrown]

64. Funny.. Thats the only one I could think of..as well. n/t

[oberliner]

67. They are a rare breed

That's for sure.

[nikto]

62. That's like asking ...

Which species of Lamprey FLIES?

[Monk06]

66. The Trumpettes and the GOP generally have a word for lying. It's called the entire English language

[Thor_MN]

69. Geico commercial. That what you do when you work for the GOP.

[PatSeg]

70. No, no, no

Androids don't lie, they only say what they are programmed to say.

[bottomofthehill]

71. Why should this come as a suprise

She is a push pollster who lies each time she hosts an interest group. Taught by Frank the Putz Lutz

[Lsantos04]

73. Conway is just another scammer, like the rest of Trump's campaign

Sadly, despite all of this, more than 40% of this country's voters will go out to vote for Don the Con. Says a lot about the intelligence of such people.