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Trump's America: "The Good Old Days" (must-see video) (Original Post) napkinz Aug 2016 OP
Must see is right. Control-Z Aug 2016 #1
it really brings it home napkinz Aug 2016 #2
This is excellent (very disturbing). It should be edited as a commercial vs Trump. Those images! anneboleyn Aug 2016 #3
I agree PatSeg Aug 2016 #4
I have watched it several times now, and it is more powerful w/each viewing. Really it should be anneboleyn Aug 2016 #6
I agree. I hope someone in Hillary's campaign sees this video and contacts its creator. napkinz Aug 2016 #9
Oh, definitely, no exaggeration at all PatSeg Aug 2016 #14
what few people know about Trump's history ... napkinz Aug 2016 #16
I was just reading about that PatSeg Aug 2016 #17
and yet he has a great relationship with "THE" blacks ... napkinz Aug 2016 #18
Yep PatSeg Aug 2016 #19
and the idiot has the gall to ask African-Americans, "What the hell do you have to lose?" napkinz Aug 2016 #20
Yeah, after all PatSeg Aug 2016 #21
a racist and misogynist who would have fit right in on the show "Mad Men" napkinz Aug 2016 #31
Exactly! For me the 1930s Germany references didn't hit home in the way these images do. anneboleyn Aug 2016 #22
"I sincerely hope this excellent video finds its way out there" napkinz Aug 2016 #23
This is her contact details OnDoutside Aug 2016 #28
Very well said PatSeg Aug 2016 #26
Confederate Flag At Trump Rally ... napkinz Aug 2016 #27
What I know of that period I learned about in history class, and from television napkinz Aug 2016 #5
I was born in the late 60's and I've seen the disgusting videos many times. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #8
Trump’s Newest Advisor Is A Raging Anti-Semite And Holocaust Denier napkinz Aug 2016 #10
It's sickening that people try to portray the events as some widespread conspiracy. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #11
"brother of Mary Kay Letourneau" napkinz Aug 2016 #12
I have seen Schindler's List (in a theater actually when it was released) and yes I have seen many anneboleyn Aug 2016 #24
Did she entirely miss the ending of the film, when the real-life persons walked w/the actor anneboleyn Aug 2016 #25
It was our only date and... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #29
Who made this? Needs to be pushed! mainer Aug 2016 #7
end of the video says M DeMarco napkinz Aug 2016 #13
I noticed that the video PatSeg Aug 2016 #15
I too was surprised to see it's been around since March. napkinz Aug 2016 #30
Maybe it will take off now PatSeg Aug 2016 #32
I just checked ... it's over 68,000 now napkinz Aug 2016 #33
Very cool! PatSeg Aug 2016 #34
now over 70,000 napkinz Aug 2016 #37
Trump Supporters have been around for ages. baldguy Aug 2016 #35
Trump's supporters ... napkinz Aug 2016 #36

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
3. This is excellent (very disturbing). It should be edited as a commercial vs Trump. Those images!
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 06:20 PM
Aug 2016

I honestly think a lot of people in my generation (Gen X born between 65-85 -- I was born in the late seventies) and millennials (85-2005) have never seen some of these images or have only seen them reproduced in films. Seeing the REAL images with that idiot's disgusting words over them is very disturbing indeed.

PatSeg

(47,550 posts)
4. I agree
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 06:24 PM
Aug 2016

It should be turned into a commercial. The combination of his words and those images are very powerful.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
6. I have watched it several times now, and it is more powerful w/each viewing. Really it should be
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 06:54 PM
Aug 2016

used -- maybe by one of Hillary's PACs? I have no idea how that works but whoever created this should send it to them maybe? With a bit of editing (and presumably some statement at the end indicating that Trump didn't say these things at the actual lunch counter protests so he doesn't threaten to sue everyone) they would have an outstanding ad to use in battleground states.

It also upends the obnoxiously racist ads that Trump PACs have been running (showing "illegals" running across the border even though the image was from another country, etc -- cheap Willie Horton-esque racism)

I mean seriously this is devastatingly POWERFUL. It is one of the best political pieces I have ever seen (honestly I am not trying to exaggerate). It is clear, w/simple and effective musical tones that enhance the ominous feeling but are not distracting, and the juxtaposition of words and images works just beautifully and shows Trump's language for what it TRULY IS AND WHAT REAL-WORLD EFFECTS (sorry for yelling -- I think this is great) his violent goading has on his idiotic followers.

It reveals his black heart.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
9. I agree. I hope someone in Hillary's campaign sees this video and contacts its creator.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 07:10 PM
Aug 2016

Absolutely powerful!

PatSeg

(47,550 posts)
14. Oh, definitely, no exaggeration at all
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 09:48 PM
Aug 2016

I'm just surprised that more people, myself included, hadn't thought of those images when Trump said those things about protesters at his rallies. I believe there were some comparisons to 1930s Germany, but the civil rights images really bring it home more, especially for those of us who lived during that time.

We have been bombarded with Trump's offensive rhetoric for over a year now and I hope people don't just get used to it. Videos like this will remind people how ugly and dangerous his words are. He is not just a harmless sideshow clown.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
16. what few people know about Trump's history ...
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 09:33 AM
Aug 2016
DOJ: Trump’s Early Businesses Blocked Blacks

A 1973 suit against Trump and the Trump Organization claimed that superintendents at Trump properties would mark African American’s applications with a ‘C’ for ‘Colored’ and other racial codes.

When an African American showed up to rent an apartment owned by a young real-estate scion named Donald Trump and his family, the building superintendent did what he claimed he’d been told to do. He allegedly attached a separate sheet of paper to the application, marked with the letter “C.”

“C” for “Colored.”

According to the Department of Justice, that was the crude code that ensured the rental would be denied.

Details of this secret system, as well as other practices that the Trump organization allegedly used to exclude black residents from its buildings in Brooklyn, Queens, and Norfolk, Virginia, in the 1970s, were recorded in a lawsuit brought by the DOJ against Trump and his father, Fred, in 1973 for alleged violations of the Fair Housing Act.

read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/15/doj-trump-s-early-businesses-blocked-blacks.html

PatSeg

(47,550 posts)
17. I was just reading about that
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 09:52 AM
Aug 2016

in The Making of Donald Trump. There is enough crap on Donald Trump to make political ads for the next ten years. When it comes to business, the man seems to go out of his way to be as dishonest and unprincipled as possible, even when it costs him money.

PatSeg

(47,550 posts)
21. Yeah, after all
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 10:41 AM
Aug 2016

their schools suck and they all apparently live in war zones. The man apparently lives in a 1950s bubble.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
22. Exactly! For me the 1930s Germany references didn't hit home in the way these images do.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 11:13 AM
Aug 2016

They are just brutal, they are from our own history, and the images hit home for me as an American Gen Xer in a way that references to Hitler and the brown shirts just do/did not. These images are obviously part of our own troubled history, and the editing work on this video is fantastic.

The comments from Trump about "getting that guy out of here" as the young African-American man at the lunch counter is dragged out by the representatives of "law and order" and the bloodthirsty mob, and the sequence of the injured, brutalized African-American woman being dragged away (again -- "law and order&quot as Trump yells about protestors being transported out on stretchers work powerfully as a condemnation of just where his inflammatory rhetoric leads (and frankly the racism that is motivating it).

I sincerely hope this excellent video finds its way out there as a commercial online or as part of Hillary's telly campaign in key battleground states. It has the potential to be one of those crucial political ads that becomes legendary (and in a positive way -- not in the infamous "Daisy" tradition, which was exactly the type of ad Drumpf would consider "powerful," "yuuuuge," and "big league&quot

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
23. "I sincerely hope this excellent video finds its way out there"
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 11:28 AM
Aug 2016

I hope DU members on Twitter and Facebook will share it with others.

And I would love for Rachel or Lawrence to see it and show it.

PatSeg

(47,550 posts)
26. Very well said
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 11:53 AM
Aug 2016

Trump's vile words were overlaid perfectly with the images. They became more than just bombastic rhetoric of a crude politician and the video shows what those "old days" were really like.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
5. What I know of that period I learned about in history class, and from television
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 06:41 PM
Aug 2016

documentaries and online videos.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
8. I was born in the late 60's and I've seen the disgusting videos many times.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 07:09 PM
Aug 2016

On the other hand, I watch many documentaries.

Several years ago, I went on a date with a woman about my age who didn't know anything about Nazi Germany. We walked out of a cinema after seeing "Schindler's List," and she assumed it was a total work of fiction. She cried after I explained it was based on real events, so at least she wasn't some "denier" kook. She simply didn't know! She was a high school graduate too!

Side note: Never take a first date to see a movie like Schindler's List.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
10. Trump’s Newest Advisor Is A Raging Anti-Semite And Holocaust Denier
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 07:25 PM
Aug 2016

By Ryan Denson on August 19, 2016
·
When Donald Trump said he was going to have a “shakeup,” he meant he was going to double down on his offensive, bigoted and misguided positions regarding culture, policy, and human dignity.

Joseph Schmitz, one of Trump’s new foreign policy advisors, and brother of Mary Kay Letourneau, allegedly bragged about firing Jewish employees when he was the Defense Department inspector general. Thee former acquaintances of Schmitz have made the allegations, including one that has testified under oath.

In a complaint file from senior intelligence official Daniel Meyer, Schmitz reportedly quipped “I fired the Jews” and cited another witness, John Crane, who alleged Schmitz had downplayed and basically denied that Jews were burned in the ovens in concentration camps: "In his final days, he allegedly lectured Mr. Crane on the details of concentration camps and how the ovens were too small to kill 6 million Jews.”

-snip-

It should come as no surprise that Trump has picked a man with a track record of anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial. Trump surrounds himself with advisors completely and utterly detached from reality.

read more: http://addictinginfo.org/2016/08/19/trumps-newest-advisor-is-a-raging-anti-semite-and-holocaust-denier/

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
11. It's sickening that people try to portray the events as some widespread conspiracy.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 07:30 PM
Aug 2016

Sorry to detract from your main points, and I agree with you, but this part surprised me!

brother of Mary Kay Letourneau

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
12. "brother of Mary Kay Letourneau"
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 07:48 PM
Aug 2016

surprised me too, not sure why it was mentioned (doesn't seem relevant)

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
24. I have seen Schindler's List (in a theater actually when it was released) and yes I have seen many
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 11:38 AM
Aug 2016

documentaries detailing aspects of the civil rights rights movement. My point was that some of these images are less familiar to Gen Xers and millenials, and together with the smart editing work with Trump's inflammatory rhetoric, the images are very powerful. It reminds an American audience of our own very troubled past (and present) with the issue of race -- and it is not a reference to another country's issues from eighty years ago, which I think is much easier for an audience to dismiss as "yes that was tragic but it was not us," "WWII ended that problem," and therefore is "not our problem."

I honestly don't know how anyone in our day and age could be so totally uninformed about the history of Nazi Germany as your date. The Diary of Anne Frank is one of the most frequently assigned texts in American junior high and high schools. I don't know if you continued to date this person but that would have scared me as it was taught throughout my history courses in junior high and in high school (he!! I even wrote an essay reply to a practice AP question about the Nuremberg laws and Nazi Germany -- and that was in high school)

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
25. Did she entirely miss the ending of the film, when the real-life persons walked w/the actor
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 11:41 AM
Aug 2016

portraying him/her? I find it odd that a viewer would miss that entirely...but oh well. Maybe she was distracted.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
29. It was our only date and...
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 02:58 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Wed Aug 24, 2016, 04:39 PM - Edit history (2)

... I never really determined how she didn't know anything about Nazi Germany.

She worked as a greeter at a nearby K-Mart (when that store hired greeters) and saw me talking to my mother who was working as a cashier. She asked Mom about me in an interested manner after I left, so I later asked the greeter on a date.

She mentioned where she graduated from high school during the date. It was a school district in this area with a somewhat poor reputation -- lower graduation rates, lower SAT/ACT average test scores, etc. She didn't strike me as inherently dumb, but it could've been made worse if she was taking less advanced coursework at her school too. Oh! She also mentioned that her parents were very religious, but I never met them. I asked her on another date despite her incredible ignorance about the Nazis, but she declined.

If you think that's bad, I later married another woman who worked as a beautician. She had a high IQ according to a sample test that I gave her, but she'd spent the last couple years of high school at a local vocational school. She and her mother (who was in her 60's) looked for a house for me and my wife to rent while I was at work. They later showed me the one that they liked which was also cheap. It had a small swastika etched into the lawn! (I later discovered that the teenage son of the religious couple who'd previously rented the house was a "problem child" and a skinhead.) I screamed, "There's a damn swastika in the grass!" and neither of them knew what that meant! I was especially outraged that my mother-in-law didn't know about it! She was born in the 30's!! I was sort of half-yelling at her as I demanded to know how she couldn't know such a thing. She eventually replied, after I mentioned Germany during WW2 and other clues, that she had vague memories about the Nazis and what they did now that I mentioned it. That mother-in-law grew up with 12 siblings in a coal-mining town of Kentucky. Although that amazing ignorance wasn't the reason, the marriage didn't last long and I'm so pleased that my ex-wife didn't get pregnant by me.

I'm not done! In later years I worked at a factory where a recent immigrant was preparing for her citizenship test. I asked to look at the study guide and I chuckled over the easy questions. A Vietnamese-American co-worker overheard me and said, "Ask those two women over there if they know any! I guarantee with you they not know!" (His English wasn't the best.) At break time I did just that. Indeed, the women didn't know any of the answers, not even the number of stars on the USA flag. I eventually asked the two women if they could name the first President of the United States (which wasn't a question on the test) and they didn't know that either! I said, "He's on the $1 bill with his name under the portrait! Do you know now?" One of them replied, "I never paid attention. I'm not in school anymore, ya know!" Those two women were both children of former coal-miners from Kentucky too.

I live near Dayton, OH. There's many bright and educated people in this area, but there's also a fair number of unbelievably ignorant ones.

EDIT: I was fortunate to attend one of the better public schools in Ohio. At least it was rated very high when I attended. However, if all of my instructors had been like my elementary school teachers, I would've been in trouble. I had a first grade teacher confiscate a coin from New Zealand that I was showing another student at recess. She said it was punishment for me "lying" about it being real money! It's not like I was trying to pass it off as USA currency, and I knew even at that age that different countries had different money. A third grade teacher confidently told the class that the sky was blue because it reflected the color of the oceans! (It's blue because those wavelengths of light from the Sun get scattered in all directions by our atmosphere.)

I personally think teachers should be more respected in this country. However, that also means that they should be mostly composed of some of the best students from our universities. My former sister-in-law (who attended the same high school as me) earned a degree in education, and she said that she didn't need to study because it was so easy. She treated college as a place to party and have fun. Meanwhile, countries like Finland and Singapore try to direct many of their best students into teaching and the job is highly regarded, like medical doctors here.

PatSeg

(47,550 posts)
15. I noticed that the video
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 09:57 PM
Aug 2016

has been on YouTube since March. I'm really surprised I haven't seen it before. I posted it on Facebook.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
30. I too was surprised to see it's been around since March.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 02:59 PM
Aug 2016

it has around 67,000 views ... it should have QUINTUPLE that

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
35. Trump Supporters have been around for ages.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:38 AM
Aug 2016

60 yrs ago they were the White Citizens' Council.

80 yrs ago they were the Sturmabteilung.

150 yrs ago they were the KKK.

They never go away.

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