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Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 05:19 PM Aug 2016

Could Trump's outreach to African-Americans be anymore disgusting?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/fear-and-loathing-of-black-people
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I've heard some people describe this as a problem of tone or hyperbole. There are obviously numerous ways to fact-check this garbage. The overwhelming majority of African-Americans do not "live in poverty" - despite that fact that the poverty rate among African-Americans is almost triple that of whites. But all of this misses the point. Trump portrays African-American life as drenched in violence, devoid of any vitality or promise, quite simply, as he puts it, a "disaster." Along the way is thundering subtext that black voters are incapable of rational political action. The vocabulary, affect and tone signal nothing so much as contempt. "What the hell do you have to lose?" In other words, why do you insist on destroying yourselves?

For Trump, every black American is living in a bombed out housing project circa 1973. And despite the country's historically low crimes rates, urban crime isn't at 1980s levels in the Trump world. It's the Watts, Newark and Detroit riots all at once and everyday in every central city in the country.

It's not too much to say that you could lift Trump's version of African-American life as disaster porn from maybe half alt-right or white supremacist screeds. He just tacks on a "but I'll save you" at the end.

I know I'm not breaking any new ground by predicting that Trump's screeds are unlikely to bring many African-American voters into his camp. But it's much more than that. It's aggressive dehumanization, reduction a real people to ghastly stick figures, not a bungled departure from but actually at the heart of his increasingly white nationalist message.

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Seriously hearing Donald lately is giving me PTSD, he's so fucking deranged and shrill.
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Could Trump's outreach to African-Americans be anymore disgusting? (Original Post) Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 OP
NOPE Motley13 Aug 2016 #1
Give him a chance? Shankapotomus Aug 2016 #2
seriously! Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #6
The answer to "Could Trump be more disgusting?" Is "Yes" Kber Aug 2016 #3
I suppose so... that's a scary thought Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #5
In a word, no. catbyte Aug 2016 #4
My jaw dropped . . . annabanana Aug 2016 #7
I literally felt traumatized by his speech Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #11
Never underestimate his stupidity mythology Aug 2016 #8
It's sick Liberal_in_LA Aug 2016 #9
The thing that bothered me.. zenabby Aug 2016 #10
he has no clue at all what he's dealing with and what America is supposed to be about Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #12
Trump has never been about "we." Skidmore Aug 2016 #13

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
2. Give him a chance?
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 05:30 PM
Aug 2016

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A chance to put more African Americans behind bars?

Why doesn't he give the African American community a chance and listen to them instead of fighting them?

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
6. seriously!
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 10:19 PM
Aug 2016

but clearly he has no patience for listening to anyone except old white right-wing conspiracy nuts.

Kber

(5,043 posts)
3. The answer to "Could Trump be more disgusting?" Is "Yes"
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 06:15 PM
Aug 2016

He has shown repeatedly that he can always find a way to be more disgusting. It's his super power.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
11. I literally felt traumatized by his speech
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 06:59 AM
Aug 2016

I can't even imagine how an African-American would feel about it.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
8. Never underestimate his stupidity
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 11:56 PM
Aug 2016

This is a guy who thought that saying the Trump Tower Grill makes the best taco bowls for Cinco de Mayo as an attempt to outreach to Hispanic voters, you know the ones he called rapists, criminals and drug mules.

He mocked a person with a physical disability.

He talks about women bleeding out of their wherever, asked an audience if anybody would vote for Carly Fiorino's face.

Never underestimate Trump's ability to insult people. Of course all those people he's insulting will have the last laugh in a few months.

zenabby

(364 posts)
10. The thing that bothered me..
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:17 AM
Aug 2016

apart from what you mention is the use of "you people", "your community" etc. He is aspiring to be the president of all people. He is part of everyone, if he is the president. It has to be a "we" - "we will work together and bring all people up and make sure that the black community is not disproportionately in poverty" etc instead of "what do you people have to lose"

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
13. Trump has never been about "we."
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:22 AM
Aug 2016

He lectures and browbeats and rants. He thinks he has all the answers even when he has none. Whip that up with a healthy helping of racism and mysogyny and you have the recipe for a national disaster.

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