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Eugene

(61,919 posts)
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:46 PM Aug 2016

Trump manager says 'undercover voters' will deliver win in US election

Source: The Guardian

Trump manager says 'undercover voters' will deliver win in US election

Kellyanne Conway says Trump’s popularity is not reflected in his polls
because of the perceived social stigma of supporting the Republican
nominee


Ben Jacobs in Washington and Oscar Rickett
Tuesday 23 August 2016 12.59 BST

The Donald Trump campaign is counting on “undercover voters” to win in November.

Trump’s campaign manager Kellyanne Conway outlined her vision of how the Republican nominee could win in November despite consistently trailing in polls, during an interview with Channel 4 in the United Kingdom for the documentary President Trump: Can He Really Win?

Conway insisted that Trump’s support was not reflected in polls because of the perceived social stigma of supporting the Republican nominee. “Donald Trump performs consistently better in online polling where a human being is not talking to another human being about what he or she may do in the elections … it’s become socially desirable, especially if you’re a college educated person in the US, to say that you’re against Donald Trump,” said Conway.

“People who are supporting Donald Trump, who have not voted Republican in the past, who have not voted in quite a while, are so tired of arguing with family and friends and colleagues about their support of Donald Trump that they just decided not to discuss it.”

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/23/donald-trump-campaign-news-polls-kellyanne-conway
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Trump manager says 'undercover voters' will deliver win in US election (Original Post) Eugene Aug 2016 OP
I bet if Hillary's campaign mentioned they have "undercover voters", R B Garr Aug 2016 #1
Because, really, what else could she say ... VMA131Marine Aug 2016 #2
yes, they'll be wearing sheets. unblock Aug 2016 #3
My thoughts exactly relayerbob Aug 2016 #6
Maybe Hilary needs to have a voting station watch like Trump SummerSnow Aug 2016 #4
Do they have a bunch of voters hidden undercover somewhere liberal N proud Aug 2016 #5
Maybe they think they get another vote if they use their middle name. underpants Aug 2016 #19
Delusional. stopbush Aug 2016 #7
"Undercover Voters" sounds like 'cheating' to me Eagle_Eye Aug 2016 #8
That's what it sounds like to me too. yardwork Aug 2016 #34
In the primary both his support and his negatives were reflected in the polls. Orsino Aug 2016 #9
They're now rigged, of course NewJeffCT Aug 2016 #23
In other words, madamesilverspurs Aug 2016 #10
No. I think he's counting on voting machine hackers. GoCubsGo Aug 2016 #20
Time to pull the funds, Reince (or don't). SaschaHM Aug 2016 #11
This is their excuse if they can steal enough votes. louis-t Aug 2016 #12
I think David Duke predicted that in 1991 as well bluestateguy Aug 2016 #13
I had to look to see if this article came from the Onion... asiliveandbreathe Aug 2016 #14
what's turnout like for people who are ashamed of their vote preference? nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #15
The best they could come up with? People are unwilling to admit they would vote Trump! ROFL. Coyotl Aug 2016 #16
Heard this on Rush today - Polls don't reflect first time voters underpants Aug 2016 #17
First time voters are not likey voters...but if registered they can be polled. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #27
Right. The pollsters determine likely with their questions underpants Aug 2016 #32
Sounds like... orwell Aug 2016 #18
Trump fans certainly are not shy Capt. Obvious Aug 2016 #21
I think the bigger picture from her statement is being missed... bmpbmp Aug 2016 #22
sounds like voting machine rigging Angry Dragon Aug 2016 #24
Notice how Conway takes a swing at higher education... VOX Aug 2016 #25
Always wondered.... Aviation Pro Aug 2016 #26
LOL and white voters are going to say they're going to vote for Obama Thrill Aug 2016 #28
Trump will get voters that are too embarrassed Motley13 Aug 2016 #29
This is a new excuse for sure! They are irrepressible The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #30
Poll Unskewing: The Dumber Version alcibiades_mystery Aug 2016 #31
She agrees Republicans suck so bad that no one wants to be one. JoePhilly Aug 2016 #33

R B Garr

(16,964 posts)
1. I bet if Hillary's campaign mentioned they have "undercover voters",
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:49 PM
Aug 2016

there would be rioting in the streets.

VMA131Marine

(4,141 posts)
2. Because, really, what else could she say ...
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:49 PM
Aug 2016

The alternative is that this really is the first election in history in which voters refuse to admit that they are voting for the rich white guy.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
4. Maybe Hilary needs to have a voting station watch like Trump
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:54 PM
Aug 2016

"undercover voters" = deceased people identity stolen

liberal N proud

(60,339 posts)
5. Do they have a bunch of voters hidden undercover somewhere
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:54 PM
Aug 2016

Or are these like undercover cops and they are pretending to be something they are not?

Either case, when in History has this sort of thing happened in mass?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
9. In the primary both his support and his negatives were reflected in the polls.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:59 PM
Aug 2016

Now, for mysterious alchemical or astrological reasons, they're not. This is Trump's selective reality.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
23. They're now rigged, of course
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 04:26 PM
Aug 2016

Crooked Hillary and the Liberal Media conspired to use facts, research and data to fix the polls.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
20. No. I think he's counting on voting machine hackers.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 02:46 PM
Aug 2016

Those "undercover" voters will be flipping votes in his favor. At least that is what he hopes will happen.

I suspect there will be at least as many people who publicly claim they're voting for him, but who will vote the other way when they are away from all their Trumpbot husbands, relatives, and friends who think they can bully them into voting their way.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
11. Time to pull the funds, Reince (or don't).
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 02:08 PM
Aug 2016

When the campaign manager starts bringing up undercover voters, even they know they are going to lose. They just need to keep up the grift.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
14. I had to look to see if this article came from the Onion...
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 02:28 PM
Aug 2016

OMG - it is the Guardian.....OMG - she really said this????Talk about now has NOOOOOOOOOOO credibility...undercover voters...WTH!

November can't come soon enough......

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
16. The best they could come up with? People are unwilling to admit they would vote Trump! ROFL.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 02:30 PM
Aug 2016

That's like punching another hole in an already sinking boat ;rofl:

underpants

(182,850 posts)
17. Heard this on Rush today - Polls don't reflect first time voters
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 02:37 PM
Aug 2016

Polls are only likely voters so if you've never voted before (as in people who've never been concerned enough) then you won't be polled.

underpants

(182,850 posts)
32. Right. The pollsters determine likely with their questions
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 05:55 PM
Aug 2016

But Rush listeners don't know that and he surely wasn't going to point it out

bmpbmp

(310 posts)
22. I think the bigger picture from her statement is being missed...
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 04:24 PM
Aug 2016

Throughout history, those who stood up and allowed themselves to be identified in spite of socially accepted norms have been the true agents of change.

From our nation's revolutionary founders to Rosa Parks, MJK Jr., and John Lewis - that's just the beginning of the list.

What Conway is suggesting is that Trump is for COWARDS!

VOX

(22,976 posts)
25. Notice how Conway takes a swing at higher education...
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 04:47 PM
Aug 2016

It's those damned "college educated" persons who are afraid to show their true Trumpness.

Aviation Pro

(12,180 posts)
26. Always wondered....
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 04:49 PM
Aug 2016

...why anyone would lie to an anonymous pollster.

Sorry, asshat, there is no legion of Trump Zombies (Trombies) to save the day.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
28. LOL and white voters are going to say they're going to vote for Obama
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 04:50 PM
Aug 2016

but not do it when they get in the voting booth. Unreal they just replay their bullshit over and over

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
29. Trump will get voters that are too embarrassed
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 04:57 PM
Aug 2016

to say they are for him.

Hillary will get repug votes, that just can't vote for an insane maggot.

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