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Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:13 PM Mar 2012

Here's what I think Romney does soon after he wins the nomination...

He'll make a blanket statement/mea culps to the GE voter. "Sorry about all of the lies and distortions, but I had to say that to win the republican nomination. Believe what I tell you from here on out. Trust me."

He can't win with his nomination campaign...so I think that goes in the dump and he'll try to inoculate himself from all of the soundbites that Democrats are collecting. His response to these will be, "I've already addressed that."

This guys has no core principles...except getting elected POTUS for his trophy cabinet.

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NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
3. That will cause him to lose even harder, imo.
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:16 PM
Mar 2012

He can say "I've already addressed that" once or twice, but if he starts saying it to every single criticism (and there are many), it will kill him.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
4. Well, as Mitt might say...
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:08 PM
Mar 2012

'You have a better idea?" He's either going to have to refute every one of these statements made in the last year (since 1994, actually) which means 2 straight months of dancing and spinning...or he's going to try the blanket disavowal gambit and hope he can pivot and attack PBO for the remaining 3 months of the campaign without playing defense. Really not sure either option is very good, but the man has no principles, so I could see him simply trying to wipe his prior "on the record" statements clean.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
5. I think he's going to try to run his GE campaign on his MA record.
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:18 PM
Mar 2012

Something like "I may sound like a conservative but I've governed as a moderate."

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
11. Exactly. He will muddy the water and divert from everything he has said during the primary,
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 09:37 AM
Mar 2012

pointing back to his moderate-liberal positions. When you've taken every side of every issue you're worthless.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
7. I don't see how it works. It is more than just "changing your mind" on an issue.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 12:10 AM
Mar 2012

Either he was lying then or he is lying now.

That is how the American people will see it.

I can't imagine they would see it any other way. They'd have to be blind.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
8. That could work if Obama takes a vow of silence
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:28 AM
Mar 2012

Otherwise, if he said something like that at the debates he would lose worse then Gingrich.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
9. He's like Evan Bayh and W ...
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 08:44 AM
Mar 2012

... getting elected to higher and higher office because "it's the family business" ... they basically don't know how to do anything useful with themselves other than follow in daddy's footsteps.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
10. Maybe a saavier politician could "thread the needle" between the primary & general electorates
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 09:32 AM
Mar 2012

but I don't think Romney is that person. Aside from his liabilities in general, whichever way he tries to position himself, he is virtually guaranteed to upset somebody IMHO causing him to lose the GE. George W. Bush seemed able to do it back in 2000 and 2004 though the GOP hadn't quite been fully taken over yet by the radical Tea Party fringe. Romney has been forced to go "severely" outside of what I believe to be his basic political "comfort zone" to even stand a chance in this primary and will likely succeed in spite of his inability to actually convince radical Tea Partiers that he's one of them but he's going to have a hard time positioning himself to keep the Tea Partiers happy and attract enough moderates and independents to win the GE. Just my $0.02.

Cosmocat

(14,572 posts)
13. W was gifted in one way
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:05 AM
Mar 2012

I saw him speak last fall, and he is the same guy.

He never was a bomb thrower. He never had to say the over the top crape that these clowns, including Romney, have had to, in order to get the nomination.

His gift was his ability talk moderately while winking at the hard right. It was an unspoken contract between him and them. He was one of them, they knew it, and he did not have to prove it.

Romney simply is not one of them.

His opponents know that, and tack hard right trying to outflank him, and he has to veer that way enough to win at the margins.

He can temper what he is saying a bit, but he can't tack much more toward the "center" than he is now. It will hurt his core, and it will make him too close to a pretty likeable incumbent.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
14. That's pretty much how I see it too.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:52 AM
Mar 2012

I don't think that Romney is a "severe conservative" nor can he credibly fake one but he has to at least pretend to be one to win (though all of the available evidence suggests that tea partiers aren't really buying it but are more or less resigned to his inevitable candidacy). I would almost not be quite so worried about Romney being POTUS if he were likely to govern as a Scott Brown-esque "moderate" but the modern day Tea Party-controlled GOP won't let him be like that if elected and, as such, Obama is the only rational choice IMHO.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
12. No, not likely. He would then alienate every conservative right wing voter in this country
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 09:51 AM
Mar 2012

and he would still need them to get out and vote for him to win.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
15. Mitt will attempt to roll back to the center the minute he's all the right wing's got.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:13 PM
Mar 2012

The business interests know he'll do whatever they want--it'll just be a matter of assuring the crazies that he'll keep the country in the Dark Ages.

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
16. Not a change that this will happen...
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 02:23 PM
Mar 2012

...Mittens will look at the last Republican who played this game (GHWB) who lost his base after caving on taxes and didn't get re-elected.

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