2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum‘Racial realists’ are cheered by Trump’s latest strategy - WaPo (this is sickening)
Basically, racists are now calling themselves racialists. And did you know that it's the white people who suffer the most when shopping centers burn down? I kid you not.
This scares the living shit out of me.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/racial-realists-are-cheered-by-trumps-latest-strategy/2016/08/20/cd71e858-6636-11e6-96c0-37533479f3f5_story.html
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)They've got their fingers firmly stuck in their ears as they chant "make America white again...I can't hear you...narner narner." They are the same people who were shocked that Romney lost big time.
Look on the bright side: when the threatened "blood bath" ensues once Hillary is elected, the people who are going to get hurt will be mostly immediate family. It's hard to have a revolution when your car is up on blocks in the front yard. I imagine the blood bath will look a whole lot like the comical stand-off the Bundy clan made at the national park.
Scared? Think about it.
relayerbob
(6,554 posts)The answer for $27 to "they get free this, free that, free this, free that, and they cant get a good job and depend on the government. What else do you call it?"
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)every year on a weekend. All by themselves through lonely streets. Most of our neighbors are natives, descendants of families who've been here for generations, but they don't approve of that kind of nastiness.
Just because one national leader manages to excite some of them to noisiness and the media play it up far more than even the leader's running for president requires (where's the discussion of the other reasons many have been supporting him?) doesn't mean we should make this into more than it is.
Native
(5,943 posts)but their form of racism is something we are all familiar with. We've all heard their comments and opinions for years. For me, it's the hidden agendas and the young professionals' hidden racism that is so frightening. My trainer at my gym knew who all these people were, and when I found out that they were school administrators, on our board of commissioners, running the Chamber of Commerce, and rising stars in the republican party, I was in shock. These were also the people who met routinely to plot how they would get rid of Obama, and yes, there was talk of violence.
That said, seeing such racism fashioned as something new - new terms, new monikers, and the rewording of hateful thoughts and idioms into some kind of faux normative judgment or belief - and then giving it all so much attention in the media (feeding into a narrative that their claims might have some validity to a segment of the population that makes it worthy of reporting) is what really frightens me.
I guess what I'm trying to say is the type of racism that was once kept hidden is now in the forefront wearing tweed suits and using fancier words, giving the wrong impression to the wrong people that this type of hatred is now more acceptable to display, and that's what scares me the most.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)people with relatively benign racist attitudes have pumped them up to a hostile or even actively malignant sort. The genuinely hostile sorts are merely revealing themselves more readily. The media don't bother to differentiate, but we should.
Many conservatives are motivated by resistance to people who are different, yes, but a huge group of others are motivated mostly by resistance to change, often with little to no dislike for POC in themselves, and they're anxious as further dramatic, perhaps calamitous changes threaten. In both groups, even those who still want to deny climate change aren't so stupid that they can't see the current 50 M refugees wandering the planet as only a beginning.
All are anxious about the economic future and identity of our country, and most now know their leadership has been betraying them for years. The GOP owes its continued existence only to the perceived need to meet the huge threat from outside posed by the Democrats.
What I'm saying is that the notion that Trump's populist movement is mainly malignant racism spreading like a disease outbreak is a result of irresponsible media distortion. A lot of Trump's populist supporters are angry at being portrayed as merely racists, and regardless of how each of us defines racism, we should hear them and consider what that means.
kcr
(15,320 posts)their towns don't have KKK parades on a regular basis to not approve of. At all. That's not normal. I know it can't be nice to hear the south talked of in that way. But, come on.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and Nevada, kcr, so that's all I can speak to, but yes as far as it goes.
If your point is to infer that southerners are all evil racists you have completely missed mine. I hope not. A lot of intensely prejudiced and bigoted viewpoints are being expressed here on DU by people who have no idea that their own behaviors embody what they complain about in others.
I'd suggest the "black" test. If people a person cannot insert "black" into their hostile statements about whites and still feel they can "get away" with them, then maybe they should rethink their attitudes.
kcr
(15,320 posts)But I assure you, mine was not to "infer that all southerners are evil racists" I think that somehow a button is pushed because the GOP wants the rest of the country to vote the way the south does. I lived in the south for over 15 years and I'm well aware of that button. I used to hear it all the time.
As to the rest of your post about hostile statement about whites. Well, it said a whole lot and confirmed a whole lot of suspicions for me. Thanks.
peggysue2
(10,839 posts)So, that would be the George Wallace strategy, eh? Life would be hunky-dory if it wasn't for all these black people or Middle Eastern types or Mexicans or . . .
There was a time when the group I came from--Irish Catholics--were the favorite whipping boy. No dogs or Irish allowed, the storefront signs said. My grandmother remembered this. We, the scurvy Irish, were mentally deficient, lazy, procreated like bunnies and would steal the silver in an eye blink, rape a protestant girl for spite and murder the right and just in their very beds. The Irish were hated, considered white mongrels at best. Drunkards, too. Didn't every Righteous American know it? And then, there was the Pope, ready to take over the United States and force every good, full-blooded American to Mass with a bloody rosary in hand.
The horror!
The truth is the language of hate and bigotry never changes. The faces, the religion, the ethnic origin switch out but the sentiment remains--you're getting something to which we (the real Americans) are entitled.
I've been watching a Netflix series on the rise of the ultra-right (neo-Nazis) in Germany which gathered steam after reunification in the 1990s. Immigrants, particularly Muslim immigrants were the special target of their hate and subsequent murder sprees. Scapegoating is a favorite strategy of these radical right groups. Let's not kid ourselves. The alt-right label is just a sanitized title for fascism. And we all know where that goes.
Donald Trump 3.0 and his cohorts are toxic; they need to be crushed in November.