2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Trump speech tonight was a Gish Gallop. The way to refute it is to go line
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by line, refuting lies, putting other things in the context of what the GOP record is on it, give the actual history and/or define the need better, or adding Hillary plans for the same item vs the expected outcome of the Trump policy. Line by line by line. Hillary should do that every time he gives a speech like this. You have to go after every item. This is like being chansed by bees, you must get every single one of those suckers, lest a few end up crawling around inside your clothes and get you. If Hillary shares her truths to his Gallop, she can build up her entire vision: like chrystals that grow around Trump's lies and fabrications, soon enveloping them, connecting ideas with each other and then taking over. She could structure her speeches in that way. It would be a brain-storming and creative way to handle a gish Gallop. I did it with a nasty GOP gish galloper on bill maher's discussion forum in late 2004 or early 2005. The GOPer had destroyed the spirit of many. I nailed him sentence for sentence. It went on for days. Where he was right on the facts i looked at the context and discouvered much about the world he was missing with his narrow view of human beings and his narrow view of what the world could be. He left the site. And I felt bad because I'm a cream puff. Point is it can be done.
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vadermike
(1,416 posts)We better be ready for this crap He is not gonna make as many unforced errors I hope Hillarys team gets real aggressive quick I don't want to be up 7 points and the Election Day we lose by a few cause he reformed himself people buy this shit all the time
ooky
(8,926 posts)Has she gone dark or something? Seems like Trump dominating the news cycle again, all day on MSM, featured prominently in every story. The only story on Hillary I've seen today is on the bottom line ticker.
As far as the speech goes, more of the same with a slightly more conciliatory tone. He promised the moon sun and stars again and still didn't say how he would do any of it.
cry baby
(6,682 posts)Hillary and the dems have been on page 2...always after trump.