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Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 12:43 PM Aug 2016

Trump Is Seeking a White Nationalist Awakening — NOT the White House

http://bluenationreview.com/trump-is-seeking-a-white-nationalist-awakening-not-the-white-house/

The New York Times paints Donald Trump as a lost and confused puppy:

Advisers who once hoped a Pygmalion-like transformation would refashion a crudely effective political showman into a plausible American president now increasingly concede that Mr. Trump may be beyond coaching. … In private, Mr. Trump’s mood is often sullen and erratic, his associates say. He veers from barking at members of his staff to grumbling about how he was better off following his own instincts during the primaries and suggesting he should not have heeded their calls for change. He broods about his souring relationship with the news media, calling Mr. Manafort several times a day to talk about specific stories. Occasionally, Mr. Trump blows off steam in bursts of boyish exuberance: At the end of a fund-raiser on Long Island last week, he playfully buzzed the crowd twice with his helicopter.

I don’t buy it.

Trump knows exactly what he’s doing — it’s just not what the media and pundits think it is:
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Trump Is Seeking a White Nationalist Awakening — NOT the White House (Original Post) Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2016 OP
I believe this could be true cliffordu Aug 2016 #1
Certainly one of the most realistic theories I have heard on him Runningdawg Aug 2016 #2
"He’s after something bigger, something to match his grand ambitions: not to win the White House but pampango Aug 2016 #3
He is in it for the money Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #7
I hope you're right. If he is just in it for the money, that's terrible but less damaging pampango Aug 2016 #10
I don't think he actually has any ideology beyond profound and abiding self-love. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #4
I don't disagree. I'm not sure I buy the premise of the piece entirely. But Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2016 #5
I think he's just a train wreck of a person, and he got this far by being a bloviating ass Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #8
Hmmm, yeah it seems like he's been "failing upwards" for most of his life (similar Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2016 #9
Agree, Warren. Donald has a dysfunctional mind that Hortensis Aug 2016 #16
Agreed. He doesn't have a plan. n/t FSogol Aug 2016 #6
This. jcgoldie Aug 2016 #17
I joined just to respond to this thread... NoGoodNamesLeft Aug 2016 #11
Yeah. Agree completely. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #12
Thanks! NoGoodNamesLeft Aug 2016 #14
He may have wanted it before he understood what the job entails. Avalux Aug 2016 #13
It will get ugly, I'm sure... NoGoodNamesLeft Aug 2016 #15
Hmmm... would have thought the guy whistler162 Aug 2016 #18
Why do people think he's an evil genius? WillyBrandt Aug 2016 #19

Runningdawg

(4,517 posts)
2. Certainly one of the most realistic theories I have heard on him
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 02:52 PM
Aug 2016

scary as hell - but more on the mark than any other.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
3. "He’s after something bigger, something to match his grand ambitions: not to win the White House but
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 04:36 PM
Aug 2016

"That Trump has ratcheted up his dangerous rhetoric rather than dial it back has confounded the national commentariat and stumped GOP leaders.

Trump’s strategy makes perfect sense. Not for a presidential candidate, but for someone seeking to lead an uprising — and perhaps a violent one.

It’s a classic example of Occam’s razor: the simplest explanation, the one with the fewest assumptions, is the correct one.

Trump’s unwillingness to carry out the basic requirements of a presidential campaign, his refusal to build a national infrastructure, his willful ignorance of issues, his inexplicable campaign schedule — these betray not stupidity, but intentionality. He doesn’t care. And he doesn’t care because he’s not after the presidency. It’s possible he never was.

He’s after something bigger, something to match his grand ambitions:

His plan is working, not to win the White House, but to change America — and the world — by triggering a white nationalist uprising and becoming a “heroic” figurehead in what his followers see as a defining war against inexorable demographic shifts.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
7. He is in it for the money
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 04:56 PM
Aug 2016

This is how Trump deals with all his partners. He cleans them out...he is busy putting money into his business and making a profit...if he wins...more money if not...he is still doing Great...making Trump Great again.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
10. I hope you're right. If he is just in it for the money, that's terrible but less damaging
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 05:11 PM
Aug 2016

to the country than if he is intentionally supporting white nationalism.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
4. I don't think he actually has any ideology beyond profound and abiding self-love.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 04:45 PM
Aug 2016

He's been saying this shit because it's the easiest way to express through the GOP primary process, by murmuring sweet nothings into the bigoted lizard brain of the Republican base.

For him it's about Trump, all Trump, and nothing but the Trump.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
5. I don't disagree. I'm not sure I buy the premise of the piece entirely. But
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 04:54 PM
Aug 2016

it seems he's gotten drunk with all the adulation from his rubes. Yet seems incapable of keeping his mouth from connecting with his ass. This race would be a lot closer if he feigned some sanity. But for some reason he keeps sabotaging himself. Maybe other people are right and he never figured he'd get this far and now doesn't know how to get out of it. Or maybe it's simpler and he's simply genuinely confident that he'll have enough angry white people to pull him through.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
8. I think he's just a train wreck of a person, and he got this far by being a bloviating ass
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 04:59 PM
Aug 2016

So now he's continuing to be a bloviating ass, because it is who he is- but he is competing for a different and wider slice of the electorate, plus the novelty factor has worn off.

If he keeps it up and loses so badly he severely damages the Republican Party (please, yes) then he may end up being lionized as a hero, but not by the people referenced in this article.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
9. Hmmm, yeah it seems like he's been "failing upwards" for most of his life (similar
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 05:05 PM
Aug 2016

to Jr.). It does make sense that he's finally under the microscope of a much larger audience and they can see him for the unprincipled bullshitter he's always been.

Shit, if he is the catalyst for this miserable turd of a scam known as the republican party to finally die. I'll fucking eat a whole case full of his Sharper Image steaks in celebration. I'm sure there's a few of those sitting around in some Chinese warehouse freezer somewhere

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Agree, Warren. Donald has a dysfunctional mind that
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 07:50 PM
Aug 2016

does not comprehend a morality or ideology that would encompass anything beyond him. He is astonishingly ignorant because he has a very short attention span and because he is not interested in anything that is not about him. His speech reveals patterns seen in certain types of brain disorders. Psychologists believe people like him usually have only basic consciences that enable them to worry about getting caught doing something wrong but cannot feel guilt. On and on.

Guy, unbelievable as it might seem that such a profoundly disabled person could become the presidential nominee of a major party, it has happened. To the horrified astonishment of people around the planet, including mental health professionals who are watching this play out on TV.

As for his wealth, his father rescued him repeatedly from ruin over the years and arranged loans and deals until Trump's mid 50s, about 17 years ago, at which point he died and obligingly reportedly left another $200-300 M to the family business headed by Trump.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
17. This.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:09 PM
Aug 2016

There's no there there. There's no underlying strategy beyond tell me how great I am. If he can get that by appealing to racists and bigots then that's just fine by him. But is it some nefarious conspiracy to stir up white nationalism? I don't think so, that's just the lowest common denominator and the only one stupid enough to be duped by such a narcissistic jackass.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
11. I joined just to respond to this thread...
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 05:15 PM
Aug 2016

My theory is that Trump has no interest in being president and never did. He only wants to win. He's such a narcissist that he can't refrain from seeking adoration and he can't handle criticism. The surest way to make him completely implode and fall apart is to continue to criticize him fiercely and not let up for a second because narcissists cannot tolerate even fair criticism without behaving in a way that makes them look completely unhinged.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
13. He may have wanted it before he understood what the job entails.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 05:41 PM
Aug 2016

Regardless -he isn't going to win. When he loses he won't be able to handle the humiliation. In true narcissistic form, he will claim the election was rigged, blame everyone else (because he's a victim of course) and throw temper tantrums. His supporters will become inflamed and it could get violent. This alternate reality we're living won't be over when he loses.

Welcome to DU!

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
15. It will get ugly, I'm sure...
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 06:21 PM
Aug 2016

I just hope all those flying monkeys...er surrogates...disappear because I'm about over seeing their mindless smirks and glazed over eyes.

Thanks for the welcome!

WillyBrandt

(3,892 posts)
19. Why do people think he's an evil genius?
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:41 PM
Aug 2016

Instead of a crude, narcissistic, corrupt old dummy?

Where is the evidence of long-term planning? Of sub-text triumphing over plain meaning? Of choosing short-term tactical defeats for long term positional game advantage?

He's some dumb, mean asshole with a goldfish's ability to think ahead. The racist flock to him. There's nothing more here. Scratch the surface, and you get--the surface.

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