2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumKicked old thread: Electoral College predictions from August & October (optimistic!)
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Original Thread Title: Drop your Electoral College predictions in this thread. We'll check back here in November
{FYI - Originally posted in August 2016}
I'm using this site http://www.270towin.com/maps/clinton-trump-electoral-map as an EC calculator tool.
My prediction is a 347-191 Clinton victory in the Electoral College.
For popular vote I'll predict...49- Clinton
41- Trump
[font color="#f0f0f0"].[/font] 8- Johnson
[font color="#f0f0f0"].[/font] 2- Stein
(Updated on 10-19-16)
I'm now gonna adjust my prediction:50.1- Clinton
42.8- Trump
[font color="#f0f0f0"].[/font] 5.3- Johnson
[font color="#f0f0f0"].[/font] 1.5- Stein
EC: Clinton- 352 - Trump-186
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)EV: 404-134, Clinton.
Clinton: 51%
Trump: 38%
Johnson: 9%
Stein: 2%
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)About a 8% margin in popular vote
Grown2Hate
(2,012 posts)The real "surprises" being Clinton flips AR, AZ, GA, and IN (while coming AGONIZINGLY close in SC).
And for extra credit, 54 to 46 advantage for the Dems in the Senate while NOT QUITE being able to flip the House (coming within 5 seats).
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greymattermom
(5,754 posts)that will be my prediction. Remember our Republican governor vetoed the bathroom bill and the guns on campus bill.
Stargleamer
(1,989 posts)AgadorSparticus
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I am optimistic. I gave SC, AR and IN to Hillary along with all the swing states. I think it will be a blowout. And some hard core red states will turn pink.
Done. Went back to split NE.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)Nebraska and Maine. You can click on one of their congressional district tabs to change Nebraska to purple and signify that you are giving one electoral vote to the losing candidate.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)You have to have just one blue tab clicked on the Nebraska congressional districts and leave the others red.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Thank you, StevieM!
Bucky
(54,020 posts)I like your optimism
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Besides, the church has made a stance against the anti religion they see from Trump. From their history, they are a little sensitive to religious persecution. I am seeing #nevertrump from the Mormons on my fb. So, while I am not sure they will actually vote for Hillary, they may sit it out.
As for Arkansas, I am not as sure about that. I went back and forth on that one. I know it has gotten progressively more red. Bush beat Kerry 54-45. McCain beat Obama 59-39. Romney beat Obama 61-37. But my rationale is that if Hillary can be tied with Trump in Indiana with Pence as Trump's VP, then I am staying hopeful she can make a dent in those Arkansas numbers.
Bucky
(54,020 posts)I submit to you that the Mormons a DUer knows does not provide a representative sample of all Mormon voters
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)It is an interesting read on the group in general.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/donald-trump-gop-mormon-vote-utah/474819/
Here is a poll from the desert news with a 4.5 MOE.
http://m.deseretnews.com/article/865650513/Poll-Utah-would-vote-for-a-Democrat-for-president-over-Trump.html?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theatlantic.com%2Fpolitics%2Farchive%2F2016%2F03%2Fdonald-trump-gop-mormon-vote-utah%2F474819%2F
I don't know. But with some switching parties and others voting for Johnson or just sitting out, I am going to bet on Hillary taking Utah. Fingers & toes crossed.
Bucky
(54,020 posts)Here's a poll from late July that has Johnson at 26%, just behind Trump
https://alibertarianfuture.com/2016-election/poll-gary-johnson-26-utah-three-points-overtaking-trump/
Since then, Johnson's numbers have tapered down. But in the most recent polls, Trump is ahead of Clinton by 9-12%.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ut/utah_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson-5962.html
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)It looks like it may go to him afterall. But it will still help Hillary. She was never expected to take Utah. Trump needs Utah. In a 3 way, Johnson can do some serious damage to Trump which according to that 1 article, Johnson can inflict some damage in the swing states which means he could really stop Trump. We can hope, anyways.
All this means, we just have work to do. Time to GOTV.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)Clinton 52% Trump 37% Johnson 7% Stein 3% Others 1%
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StevieM
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And I also think Hillary will come very close to winning South Carolina.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Popular vote:
51 Clinton
42 Trump
6 Johnson
1 Stein
Democrats fall one short of re-taking the Senate
Democrats pick up 2 seats in the House
And I remain dismayed by how many 'progressives' don't vote.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)8 points in the popular.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)That includes all of the Obama 2008 states plus Georgia, Missouri, South Carolina and Arizona. And I think there might be at least one surprise gift for Clinton such as Utah or Mississippi with an outside chance at Texas. I see no bad surprises for Clinton.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)For that to happen, Clinton 52%, Trump 36%
sofa king
(10,857 posts)That's right, I said it. Even though I was spectacularly wrong about Trump dropping out last Friday, I'm still convinced he'll be escorted out of the race "soon," and I further guess that he will be replaced with Paul Ryan.
Republicans will crank up the vote-theft Wurlitzer again and try like hell to kick it into the House. But even stealing Ohio, Florida, and New Hampshire won't be enough to get there.
Bucky
(54,020 posts)Not unplausible, tho I think you overestimate Ryan.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)I have been wildly, spectacularly wrong all year. It's as if Donald Trump's reality distortion sphere somehow warps my usually reliable predictive powers.
Part of it, I am sure, is that neither Trump nor the Republican Party has an actual plan anymore; neither knows what they are going to do next, and both are completely consumed with the metacrisis of reacting to individual crises of their own, constant creation.
In military terms, this would be called "loss of initiative," and it's one of the fundamental ways that one defeats an enemy, by forcing them to focus on stabilization rather than dictating the pace of events. But it usually takes a--well, a flaming narcissist to completely fail: a Hitler, a Mussolini, a McClellan, a Custer. Fortunately for us we happen to have one of those on the other side.
Anyway, we're sort of in the "breakout" phase of this campaign, where success is limited primarily by the leader's vision and limits of endurance. I'm pretty sure that Hillary Clinton knows how to visualize total success, so perhaps my future predictions should be guided not by what Trump does, but by what Mrs. Clinton does--and does not--do.
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)Imperialism Inc.
(2,495 posts)Basically going with the current polls but not giving Clinton AZ, GA, or IA
megahertz
(126 posts)lordcommander
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(190 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)Popular vote:
Clinton 50%
Trump 39%
Johnson 9%
Stein 1%
Other <1%