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I don't mind sane Republicans supporting Hillary. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2016 OP
Indeed, many of us had been asking - how can they put party in front of security/safety of country. salin Aug 2016 #1
George Wallace was getting a lot of traction in our primaries in 1972. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2016 #2
My FDR fan father, was concerned about a Carter second term and voted for John Anderson salin Aug 2016 #3
The problem is that even some of the insane ones are hopping on board. DemocraticWing Aug 2016 #4
You prefer they would vote for Trump? Squinch Aug 2016 #5
Only the truly pure should be allowed. okasha Aug 2016 #6
Right? Squinch Aug 2016 #9
Agree. I'm just pleased (!) that at least some don't mind Hortensis Aug 2016 #18
I am going to be hopefully watching for something: if so many of the Squinch Aug 2016 #21
If war criminals can't stomach voting for Trump then I welcome their vote, but they still suck. DemocraticWing Aug 2016 #12
So we should turn away votes? We should tell people to stop voicing their support? Squinch Aug 2016 #13
if you are talking about the 50 GOP security advisors (I suspect you are) Raine1967 Aug 2016 #14
They may vote for Hillary but will never support her. Kaleva Aug 2016 #7
Works for me. (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2016 #11
I am happy to have any Republican vote for Clinton or in anyway not vote for Trump. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2016 #8
This will be interesting. If they do vote for her in large numbers, might it have some Squinch Aug 2016 #10
I don't either. Mz Pip Aug 2016 #15
Echoing what Jamaal510 Aug 2016 #16
I think everybody, regardless of party, should vote for the only sane candidate who can win. n/t pnwmom Aug 2016 #17
I agree...since when do we turn down votes? Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #19
If you go by how they campaigned and not how they governed Trump represents a dramatic departure... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2016 #20

salin

(48,955 posts)
1. Indeed, many of us had been asking - how can they put party in front of security/safety of country.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 05:02 PM
Aug 2016

They don't seem to be saying that they expect her to change the platform, many say they disagree with some policies/positions - but the danger of Trump at the helm supersedes the concerns over the disagreement.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
2. George Wallace was getting a lot of traction in our primaries in 1972.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 05:04 PM
Aug 2016

Who knows what would have happened if he wasn't shot and paralyzed?

I couldn't vote then but he certainly wouldn't have got my vote.

salin

(48,955 posts)
3. My FDR fan father, was concerned about a Carter second term and voted for John Anderson
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 05:15 PM
Aug 2016

I don't think he fathomed that Reagan could win.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
4. The problem is that even some of the insane ones are hopping on board.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 05:16 PM
Aug 2016

We don't need the architects of the Iraq War on our side, even if they do think Hillary is better than Trump. Just because they get that supremely easy question right doesn't make up for everything else.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Agree. I'm just pleased (!) that at least some don't mind
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 05:55 AM
Aug 2016

if some Republicans choose to vote for the alternative candidates our system offers them. Our system is not meant to offer rigid blocs one choice each, crossing to the other candidate being some kind of unthinkable treason.

Btw, political bigotry and discrimination have become big national problems that are as real and destructive as bigotry for other reasons. This pernicious influence is something everyone who wants to be a "good" citizen needs to fight in himself.

But probably no one should worry that strong conservatives would actually join a liberal-dominated Democratic Party. Most would rather stick a finger in their eye. The differences in personality that lead to political alignments are literally wired into our brains genetically and don't just go away.

Squinch

(51,014 posts)
21. I am going to be hopefully watching for something: if so many of the
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:03 AM
Aug 2016

less rabid Republicans have been forced by their party to switch over, and they decide that Hillary is their candidate, I am hoping that vote of theirs gives them a feeling of having some stake in her presidency.

I am hoping that it will make them look at what they have been led to believe about her, and contrast that with what she actually does and is.

And I am hoping that this will make them drop the Republicans forever.

You are right about the hard wiring, and we have ALWAYS had the two parties, and they have always been warring. But at times in our history, one party would implode (always the more conservative) and the other would for a short time able to call the shots. I am hoping we are on the threshold of that.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
12. If war criminals can't stomach voting for Trump then I welcome their vote, but they still suck.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:00 PM
Aug 2016

Why trot out Bush administration officials endorsing our candidate? They have no credibility with anybody except maybe the 4% of GOP primary voters that voted for Jeb.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
14. if you are talking about the 50 GOP security advisors (I suspect you are)
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:39 PM
Aug 2016

They have not hopped on board.


They have said that Trump is a danger to national security. Thier letter did not endorse HRC.

It's important to recognize this fact.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
8. I am happy to have any Republican vote for Clinton or in anyway not vote for Trump.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 06:00 PM
Aug 2016

Don't care how sane they are.

We have a government elected by a majority of those who vote.

Squinch

(51,014 posts)
10. This will be interesting. If they do vote for her in large numbers, might it have some
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 06:08 PM
Aug 2016

psychological effect that makes them feel they have a stake in her presidency? Maybe it'll make them less shitty this time around?

Not holding my breath, mind you.

Mz Pip

(27,453 posts)
15. I don't either.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 12:16 AM
Aug 2016

I'm glad there are done sane ones out there who understand that there's more to politics than party loyalty.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
16. Echoing what
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:25 AM
Aug 2016

was said earlier, I doubt it's so much they support HC; they just don't want a President Trump. I suspect these disgruntled Republicans are among the main people who push the "lesser of 2 evils" idea this year. They know their own party's nominee is incompetent and lacks the qualifications to effectively serve, but they also dislike HC and see her as corrupt, a con-artist, etc. Those who are willing to vote for her do so not because they're in love with her like many of us are, but because they're aware of the distinct possibility of doom that a Trump administration would bring for the country. I also often contemplate how they would vote down-ballot. I'm thinking that most of them might still vote in favor of a GOP-controlled House and Senate, which will mean the same obstruction for HC that the current administration has had to endure. Nevertheless, I welcome their votes for HC and their efforts to get her elected.

Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
19. I agree...since when do we turn down votes?
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 07:22 AM
Aug 2016

I can't believe some are upset because Hillary takes votes from the GOP...that is how landslides happen.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
20. If you go by how they campaigned and not how they governed Trump represents a dramatic departure...
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 07:30 AM
Aug 2016

If you go by how they campaigned and not how they governed Trump represents a dramatic departure from democratic norms and the rule of law.

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