2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMichael Moore goes full SteinTrumper
I see Putin's girl Jill has this post in her facebook feed today.
Typical Moore.
He was hellbent on depressing turnout in 2012, too, veering into the "Don't vote, it only encourages them!" nonsense during Occupy, and then spreading Naomi Wolfe's debunked, tinfoil hat conspiracy that Obama has personally ordered Occupy camps broken up.
Just as it's good for business for rightwing talk radio when a Dem wins, Moore loves it when the GOP holds the White House, as he then then he fancies himself as the voice of the youthful opposition. I've always detected a level of resentment from Moore toward Obama, when young voters flocked to our president for inspiration instead him.
patsimp
(915 posts)And he really kisses up the right in one on one interviews. His fawning over Meghan Kelly was embarrassing. And she was so rude to him.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)I agree, I do believe you hit the nail on the head.
katsy
(4,246 posts)That is
I think you misunderstood.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)Meaning the media was wrong for calling this so early because it fosters more Green voting and nonvoting....it allows voters think it no longer matters what they do. I've thought this myself, many times. They are calling it too damn early
LAS14
(13,783 posts)apcalc
(4,465 posts)I don't like it one way or another.
Isn't he the one who said Trump would win a few weeks ago?
He was...
Don't trust him.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)But I'm sure you already knew that. Your posts are deliberately divisive and give the HRC campaign a bad name. I remember when you referred to Jane Sanders as Bernie's "current wife", in an attempt to cast aspersions on him for his divorce three decades ago. Shame on you.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)always enjoy your posts!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Seriously? You're wagging your finger at me and holding a grudge over something mild like that? That was ages ago! Besides, the primary is over, no need to rehash the past and pick at scabs.
Let's be friends and move on, okay?
#StrongerTogether
George Eliot
(701 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)Insulting would be to call her his next former wife.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)That seems sarcastic to me. He seems to be worried about folks taking a Clinton victory for granted.
George Eliot
(701 posts)Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)Let's repeat once again: the democratic party is not entitled to anyone's vote. The democratic party is one of several left or leftish wing parties in this country. Left leaning people can vote their consciences among several left or leftish wing candidates.
You are just pushing potential Hillary voters away by this juvenile upset that the democratic party might have to compete with other left or leftish wing parties and candidates. That's life. Get out and work for Hillary, and talk to people who vote Green or Socialist or whatever about the issues. You will get 0 votes with insults. You will cause Hillary to lose votes by snarking about it to people who are leaning Hillary but still deciding.
Philly-Union-Man
(79 posts)Can you seriously not see that?
He's angry because this cakewalk talk is going to make people think they don't have to vote or they can waste their votes on idiot third parties.
We need to act like we're five points down all the time. And we need to stop giving Trump a pass on the debates.
You've got to be kidding me with this post.
spooky3
(34,458 posts)ymetca
(1,182 posts)... full media scrutiny anymore. For some reason we expect celebrities to conform to our expectations, which invariably seem more grandiose than their actual abilities. Why must he become a traitorous dog on his way toward inevitable irrelevance? The royal we is just us, after all. Love trumps hate, but forgiveness trumps love...
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)It's a sarcastic post about the media calling the election early.
Consider his email THAT WAS POSTED HERE ON DU YESTERDAY:
http://michaelmoore.com/makesuretrumploses/
Over the past few days, a number of polls have come out showing Hillary Clinton leading Donald Trump nationally by double digits, including in blue collar states like Michigan (10%) and Pennsylvania (11%).
If you are a Clinton supporter and have felt a sense of relief when you saw these numbers, your shoulders suddenly relaxing and an audible phew coming from your mouth, if you got excited that your belief system was now reassured that there was no chance your fellow Americans will vote for a narcissistic misogynist, then you just became part of the problem and why Donald J. Trump could actually win on November 8th.
check his link or the DU link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017396322 ...or return to your Two Minutes Hate rally already in progress.
George Eliot
(701 posts)trueblue2007
(17,228 posts)I find myself no longer a fan of his.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)These poll numbers only hold true IF EVERYONE VOTES.
LyndaG
(683 posts)Moore probably makes more $$$ when the Right is in charge. I still like him, but he gets on my nerves sometimes.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)kcr
(15,317 posts)He's worried that the media seemingly calling it for Hillary so soon will make voters complaisant and think, hey! I can vote Green, no problem! The media is sending this message. Not Michael.
SheriffBob
(552 posts)He tells it like it is.
I can not understand is that he gets criticized for making money without a million loan.
He's a blue collar advocate.
MM for president some day.
LSK
(36,846 posts)IF anyone saw him on Bill Maher you would know that.
And I didn't like what he said then either.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)2 tickled that Moore thinks that polls 3 months b4 an election will depress voter turnout 3 months later, then blames it on the h8ted media. Of which he is a part.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)I have a truly idiotic hide on DU that arose from a similar failure of reading comprehension.
As against that, I suppose one can argue that an experienced polemicist like Moore should be more careful not to be misunderstood.
With regard to the substance, it might be a net benefit for Democrats (especially downticket Democrats) if people are convinced that a Clinton win is a certainty. Turnout would be depressed across the board, but perhaps more significantly among Republicans.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)MelSC
(256 posts)He's a creepy whiny POS, who has never done our party any favors except make people hate liberals.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)Whether or not I agree with a point he makes here or there on this or that topic is one thing. But, when it comes to voting, and how to approach voting, Michael Moore is not someone to look to for possibly good advice.
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)will figure their state can afford protest votes like Stein . Why stand in line when there is already a winner or fight supression when it can be avoided ?
The media is setting up dems for apathy and low turnout because everyone will think their vote is not needed to win
GOTV
no rec
dembotoz
(16,808 posts)guess all things lefty are now suspect..............................................................................................
Arazi
(6,829 posts)He's chastising Dems for gleefully calling this for Hillary so early
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'd thought only fundies in southern churches took everything read as a literal interpretation rather than allowing for allegory, metaphor... even (as in this case) simple sarcasm.