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The Millions of Americans Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton Barely Mention: The Poor (Original Post) elleng Aug 2016 OP
The middle class have been told that they are Skidmore Aug 2016 #1
There's still a contempt for the poor as if being poor is by choice. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #2
It's a basic characteristic of CONSERVATIVE personality, Hortensis Aug 2016 #6
She certainly has addressed it KMOD Aug 2016 #3
I believe that you BlueMTexpat Aug 2016 #4
It's an ARTICLE, BlueMT. elleng Aug 2016 #8
One of those candidates is and has been promoting solid plans on the campaign trail. Orsino Aug 2016 #5
Read the ARTICLE. elleng Aug 2016 #9
Yeah, the poor are often marginalized in our money-driven government. There was a study... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #7
The word "poor" has seemed to have evaporated from every Exilednight Aug 2016 #10
I suggest you listen to her Detroit speech today mcar Aug 2016 #11

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
1. The middle class have been told that they are
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 01:08 PM
Aug 2016

the poor. It's something that we've been hearing for quite a while now. Sanders engaged in this as well so it doesn't surprise me that the election rhetoric is geared toward the vaunted middle class.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. It's a basic characteristic of CONSERVATIVE personality,
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 02:01 PM
Aug 2016

that there is a natural order that rewards good behavior and penalizes bad. It used to be more sensible, before resistance to the social safety net turned them on all people who might need it.

The left comparatively does not have contempt for the poor.

Hillary Clinton has many policies to eliminate poverty for many and alleviate it for many others. During campaigning, though, the winning focus is on the middle class because this is where most voters are.

But if anyone wonders if this is true, GO CHECK HER ISSUES SITE! Abysmal ignorance of this serves those who want her to lose. And hurts the poor.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
3. She certainly has addressed it
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 01:51 PM
Aug 2016
Your constituents are already working harder and longer just to keep their heads above water. Too many of our urban neighborhoods are plagued by poverty that persists from generation to generation. Communities of color still face barriers of systemic racism. Wages are still too low, and inequality is too great. Jobs in many parts of our country are booming, and in other parts they are still too hard to come by. So these challenges are serious, but you give me hope that together we can overcome them. I believe with all my heart that our nation is at our best when we are rising together, when those who have been left out and left behind get a fair chance to lift themselves up. And that’s when communities, cities, and regions grow stronger, and our entire country is better off.


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Now, investments like these will help your cities unlock more economic potential and compete in the increasingly competitive global marketplace. So our goal should be full employment in a full-potential economy. And that means we have to make sure the good new jobs of the future reach the neighborhoods that need them the most – from urban cities to rural areas.

We’re going to have to target billions of dollars to help young people in underserved communities find a job, maybe a first job, because in the absence of that first job, getting them into the workplace is really difficult. They need the attitudes of what goes with a good work ethic as well as the skills and the preparation, so that they can start to build financial stability, gain those skills, the confidence, and the experience to build and pursue their own career.

We need to direct billions of dollars to support small businesses in hard-hit communities where investment is scarce, so entrepreneurs have a real chance to turn their ideas into growing enterprises that will put people to work. After all, most of the new jobs – two-thirds of them – will come from small businesses. And right now, we are falling backward in the creation of small businesses because we don’t have the credit, the access to credit, that we used to. It hasn’t come back after the Great Recession. And we need to do more to help people start those businesses and succeed.

And we need to focus on second chance reentry programs so that people returning from prison have a fair chance to reestablish their lives and strengthen their communities.

Now, there are some programs that I will shamelessly borrow from. For example, we need to push for initiatives like an expanded New Markets Tax Credit program – something that my husband introduced on a bipartisan basis toward the end of his second term. And everywhere I go across the country, I see projects, I see revitalization because of the New Markets Tax Credits. I want us to explore Jim Clyburn’s, Congressman Jim Clyburn’s 10-20-30 plan to direct more federal investment into underserved areas – those neighborhoods where we have generational poverty that need extra help to be able to get themselves up and going. And I want us to be measured by how much incomes rise for hardworking families, not how much higher CEO bonuses can go. We’ve been on that path, and now we need to move toward really investing in everybody again.

I want to see how many children climb out of poverty, how many urban communities can give their residents a better future. I think that’s what it means to have an economy that works for everyone, not just those at the top.


https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/updates/2016/06/26/hillary-clinton-delivers-remarks-at-u-s-conference-of-mayors/

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
4. I believe that you
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 01:57 PM
Aug 2016

may not really have been paying attention to HRC, elleng.

Perhaps she doesn't use the word "poor" outright in her campaign rhetoric enough to satisfy some purists. But she has espoused and continues to espouse policies that will help the "poor" - among others. Her accomplishments have principally benefited the most vulnerable among us - and that includes the "poor."

This she has done ALL her life, not simply for the 2016 election, and not simply when she has been in or running for office.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
5. One of those candidates is and has been promoting solid plans on the campaign trail.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 02:01 PM
Aug 2016

If you don't know which one, you've been too busy to notice. One assumes.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
7. Yeah, the poor are often marginalized in our money-driven government. There was a study...
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 02:10 PM
Aug 2016

... done a few years ago (maybe from Stanford???) in which surveys of people in various economic classes were done to indicate their general ideas about how government should operate. It was then compared to actual voting results in Congress broken down by party.

There was a positive correlation to wealthy ideologies for BOTH Republicans and Democrats, although Republicans were worse in that regard.

There was a strong negative correlation between voting actions and poor ideologies for both parties as well. Once again, Republicans were worse.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
10. The word "poor" has seemed to have evaporated from every
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 03:10 PM
Aug 2016

Pols vocabulary. This may have to view how people self identify. The second reason is how government identifies someone as being poor.

No president wants to move the government poverty line in fear of adding millions of people to the poverty list.

Most people, when asked, often consider themselves to be middle-class. Very few people consider themselves poor or rich. For this I blame the 1% narrative. It' s not the top 1% that are financially well off, they're the super-rich. The next 5-10% are the just the plain old rich, but rich none-the-less.

The word poor has a stigma to it, and no one wants to be viewed that way.

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