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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 11:40 AM Aug 2016

Gary Johnson really having an impact against Trump!

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

More Republicans are considering Gary Johnson because they find Trump too vile to vote for but swear they won't vote for Hillary. Hey, ok with me - go ahead and vote Gary Johnson.

Look at some of the states where Hillary isn't solidly blue (like New York or California)

Ohio: Clinton 42%, Trump 39%, Johnson 10%
Arizona: Clinton 43%, Trump 42%, Johnson 5%
Florida: Clinton 43%, Trump 41%, Johnson 6%
Georgia: Clinton 43%, Trump 38%, Johnson 9%
Iowa: Clinton 38%, Trump 38%, Johnson 12%
Wisconsin: Clinton 42%, Trump 33%, Johnson 10%

Personally if Trump balks at ANY of the debates, Hillary should still have the debate but invite Gary Johnson and even Jill Stein. Republicans should see that Johnson is a viable option to Hillary (and Jill will probably come off loonier that before with her anti-science rhetoric).

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Gary Johnson really having an impact against Trump! (Original Post) LynneSin Aug 2016 OP
Wow, Johnson is growing! Happyhippychick Aug 2016 #1
Feel the Johnson? oberliner Aug 2016 #3
I'm hoping Johnson has a BIG impact on Trump LynneSin Aug 2016 #4
It would be better if they just stayed home Nictuku Aug 2016 #2
Iowa will not go to Trump CobaltBlue Aug 2016 #5
Hillary should NOT debate BlueMTexpat Aug 2016 #6
Normally I would agree but if Trump refuses to debate... LynneSin Aug 2016 #7
I can't seriously believe that there is any BlueMTexpat Aug 2016 #8

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
1. Wow, Johnson is growing!
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 12:05 PM
Aug 2016


Can you believe I'm a 51 year old woman? I swear the whole "Johnson" thing just makes me laugh every time!

Nictuku

(3,614 posts)
2. It would be better if they just stayed home
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 12:07 PM
Aug 2016

... thinking of the down ticket. We need a supportive congress for our President.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
6. Hillary should NOT debate
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 01:50 PM
Aug 2016

any challenger who is not polling at 15%. Period. It would be a terrible precedent to set for future elections.

Gary Johnson will get traction in a lot of "red" states in the West without Hillary's help, and he will pull votes mostly from Trump in those states.

Hillary has run a superlative campaign very well so far and I have full confidence in her ability and that of her surrogates to continue such.



LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
7. Normally I would agree but if Trump refuses to debate...
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 02:03 PM
Aug 2016

it's a way for Hillary to take the high road.

Ok I can understand why not to include Jill Stein. Personally I think she's a nutjob anyways. But Johnson is polling strong and to have a debate with just Johnson should Trump refuse - it would show voters that Clinton isn't afraid to debate.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
8. I can't seriously believe that there is any
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 02:11 PM
Aug 2016

sane voter in the US who believes that Clinton is afraid to debate.

If Trump bags the debates, it will be clear to all except for his frothing-at-the-mouth supporters that HE is afraid. If he does, Hillary should use her time in ways that it will increase HER own exposure - not anyone else's.

Or perhaps she should take some well-deserved R & R. She's been campaigning her heart out since she announced her candidacy in 2015 and November is still some months away. I doubt that she will take a rest though. This is too important to her.

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