Republicans dream of getting concessions from Clinton in return for dumping Trump
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http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/08/the-case-for-a-negotiated-republican-surrender-to-hillary/
Given that Trump is on track to lose and given that his presidency might very well be worse for the country and conservatism than Hillary’s anyway, why don’t Republican lawmakers band together and see if they can come to some sort of deal with Hillary?
More precisely, top Republican and conservative leaders should band together and offer Hillary a deal to rescind their endorsements of Trump and endorse her in exchange for some policy concessions.
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What would a possible deal look like, you ask?
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This wouldn’t be a bad deal. In fact, it would be a pretty damn good deal given where the Republican Party finds itself.
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The real question isn’t whether such a deal would be good for Republicans given their current circumstances, but why Hillary Clinton would even contemplate such a deal at this point?
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But there are a couple reasons why Clinton might be inclined to come to an agreement. For starters, while Trump looks like he is tanking, you can never be so sure. A deal would make it more likely Hillary wins the White House, something she cares more about than any policy initiative.
Beyond that, a deal could be good for Hillary’s presidential legacy. If she can enlist Republican support in achieving some of her big policy goals before she is even sworn in, why not take it? Even the entitlement reform plank is something deep down she must know is necessary. History would remember her fondly for breaking from party orthodoxy to achieve something important for the country.
No matter who wins in November, conservatives have very little to look forward to politically over the next four years. A deal like this, fanciful as it may appear, would temper the pain.
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1. Clinton negotiating with Republicans for their support would make her seem weak and desperate. And would definitely cost her democratic votes in exchange for MAYBE winning more republican votes.
2. Republicans have shown in their negotiations with Obama that they don't negotiate in good faith.
3. The odds of Clinton winning are at 80+% right now. She's doing fine, thank you.
4. It's a weird assumption to say that Clinton cares more about being in the White House than about getting her policies forward.
5. It's weird how a democratic win means they are expected to govern in a bipartisan manner, but a republican win means they have a mandate for partisan recklessness.
6. It's weird how Democrats are supposedly the ones who are blocking everything with their stubborn adherence to party-orthodoxy.
7. A deal that would give the Republicans a partial victory despite losing the election? Yes, that would temper the pain.
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Hillary doesn't owe those who's campaign grew from slandering her name & censoring her message because they never stood strong enough on their own record of accomplishment to qualify themselves as a viable leader for the USA.
She is intelligent & accomplished enough to lead without them.
Grovel as you wish, non-winners.
Her platform has outshined that of any contender since she began this campaign. It is solid and well written, from concept to implementation.
Show me another candidate or Party that has such a thourough vision for our nation.
If Hillary can do it they certainly should be able to also. Yet here they come, lining up to move her in every direction other than the one she has taken the time to lay out.
Pity so few actually read it because it is masterful & forward thinking.
The best thing all these egos can do at this point is congratulate her successes & give her the space & support to rebuild this country into the 1st class world example it can be.
Unfortunate that slander ran the media.
Yet here she still stands. # 45 soon to be.
one of the most disgusting things I remember about 2008 was how immediately after Pres Obama was elected, the media ran with the RW bullshit about "the deficit is the most important thing." Drove me nucking futz. That wasn't what he ran on, but all of a sudden after 8 years of reckless deficit spending and the Repubs lose big and then it was the most important thing?
Even when Republicans don't win with a mandate, if they have the power, they are totally free and unencumbered to exercise it however they see fit. Yet, when Democrats win and have some real power behind them like they did from 2009-2011, we are supposed to be gracious in our victory and seek bipartisanship and consult with Republicans to avoid any hurt feelings. Now, I know that President Obama appeared to genuinely want to work with Republicans to fix things in the wake of the economic disaster unfolding around that time period (because, hey, we all love America, right? No matter who is in charge, we all want what's best, right?) but the point is that Democrats are naturally expected by the media, punditry, Republicans etc. to be Bipartisan and any Democratic aggressiveness in enacting policies is harshly attacked by same but Republicans can be as aggressive as they want about enacting their agenda, being obstructionist, etc. and they are essentially allowed to get away with it. The double standard here is simply infuriating and I'm certain that Hillary and the Democrats will be held to it if (when) they win in November.
IMHO she and the rest of the Democrats should NOT deal. Republicans nurtured the "base" that helped nominate Trump. That is THEIR internal party problem and it NOT Hillary's responsibility to try to "save" them from themselves.
Trumps the best god damned thing that happened to this election . . . right after our side having such a stellar candidate. 
No - just no. They can go hang! 
Those assholes can endorse Hillary all they want. Great. Don't give them a bucket to piss in.
They have done NOTHING but obstruct, and SLANDER, and hurt the ACTUAL PEOPLE of this country.
Suddenly they think we should be grateful for a slap on the back? God, what a pack of assholes. Whenever they have an INCH of power they go CRAZY with it. Redistricting, blocking any bills that might help anyone, lining their god damn pockets.
If we have the upper hand, they turn in the biggest pack of damned crybabies on the planet. "You need to reach across the aisle! You need to be bipartisan!"
Don't give them a damned thing. Don't even OFFER it!
GAH! Now I'm all worked up! 
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except unconditional. Maybe Hillary will let you keep one gun per man. If you take an oath of loyalty to the Constitution.
