Does the RNC now have no choice but to remove Trump within days?

[NewsCenter28]

The use of the rwnj derogtative Hussein in reference to the President numerous times along with spouting blatant lies about ISIL crosses a line doesnt't it? I don't see how Trump survives this one. This is just so far beyond the pale on top of so many other beyond the pale comments.

I can't imagine this ISIL comment not exploding tomorrow.

Friday news dump of a RNC special session to replace Trump?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. They can't make him withdraw.

They have procedures for situations where a candidate voluntarily withdraws or gets sick or dies, but Trump was legitimately elected in the primaries and they can't make him drop out. They're stuck with him.

[NewsCenter28]

2. There's this though

The Republican Party rules states that “the Republican National Committee is hereby authorized and empowered to fill any and all vacancies which may occur by reason of death, declination, or otherwise of the Republican candidate for President of the United States or the Republican candidate for Vice President of the United States.” They could do this by calling a new convention, or, more likely, casting votes remotely.

[NewsCenter28]

3. Further

But because of that word “otherwise,” it’s likely within the RNC’s power to dump Trump even without his consent. Then they would be able to fill the “vacancy” by majority vote.

Daily beast.

[NurseJackie]

13. The "or otherwise" is essentially an "etc" that refers only to the reasons a vacancy may occur...

... it's not a blank-check that allows the RNC to create a vacancy because they so desire. They are, however, able to fill a vacancy regardless of the circumstances of that vacancy (death, abandonment, incarceration, "etc&quot

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. This allows the RNC to fill a vacancy (replace a candidate)

but even though it references vacancies "which may occur by reason of death, declination, or otherwise," but despite the word "otherwise" there is no specific provision allowing them to remove a candidate who was duly chosen at the convention and who doesn't want to be removed. If they did come up with an after-the-fact rule that purported to allow an involuntary removal there would be hell to pay because he did, after all, win more primary votes than the other candidates. His already demented supporters would almost certainly riot and it would be worse than Chicago 1968 because they will have guns.

[NewsCenter28]

6. Good points

Thanks. Although if Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are told that the house and senate are gone along with their jobs, they may take the risk.

[OnDoutside]

10. It would split the Republican vote though. They know it too, and that's what scares them above all

else. They're in a deservedly invidious position. Dah dah dah dah dah, I'm lovin' it !

[sofa king]

11. Consider Nixon

What pushed Nixon to resignation was when he was shown the Articles of Impeachment that were drawn up against him. He had a pretty good chance of beating the rap, but being presented with the paperwork was what finally sent him off. Nixon was not a little bit of a narcissist himself.

I think the same thing will happen here, and the "deal" presented will be a comparatively good one: get the fuck out, say whatever you want about it as long as it does not further violate national security, and keep your campaign cash and your freedom. The stick will be violations of espionage and political offense (assassination call) laws, and they might even toss in a threat of deportation of his wife, or exposure of mob ties from the recent roll-up.

To seal the deal, the RNC will show him the rules change that can be rammed through within five minutes of their meeting opening. Recall that the RNC is essentially a criminal organization built around the idea that rules are made to justify whatever they want to do. They can suspend their own rules and do whatever they wish, outside of the existing ten-day delay between announcement of the meeting and the meeting itself. They'll show him the text of the rules change and explain that once presented it is a foregone conclusion that it will pass.

I still think it's a little over 50-50 that this begins tonight and happens tomorrow. We may already be seeing the movement one would expect to see by those on the inside:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/republican-national-committee-trump-rnc-226844

(Edit: I should clarify that the key part of this article is not the people who have already left. It is this line: "But multiple former staff members, speaking on condition of anonymity, say there are significant misgivings among RNC staff, many of whom feel deeply loyal to the Republican brand and see Trump as something of an interloper.&quot

[KingCharlemagne]

14. Your version of Nixon's final days is at odds with the historical record. To wit, the

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SCOTUS' unanimous (9-0) decision that Nixon had to surrender the tapes, and their subsequent release, corroborated John Dean's allegations. Such that it was certain the House Judiciary Committee would vote out at least 2-3 articles of impeachment and that the Senate would subsequently vote to convict. Senator Barry Goldwater delivered the probable outcome to the White House. it was Goldwater's message that Nixon faced certain conviction that led him to resign, and not Nixon seeing the articles of impeachment.

[sofa king]

19. I stand corrected.

Nevertheless, I contend that we're in the same territory, only it's the Vaudeville version of it.

[KingCharlemagne]

21. History repeats itself, the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce. So said

Karl Marx and he seems eerily prophetic, doesn't he?

[sofa king]

22. Oh, yes.

Of course, as prophet myself, I well know that a good part of the art is finding what I said that was correct, and ignoring that which was not!

[auntpurl]

4. They're not going to dump him. He's not going anywhere

There isn't anything he could say or do that will prevent him from being the Republican nominee, and nothing that will prevent around 40% of the country voting for him. Nothing.

[chillfactor]

7. difficult to believe that 40%...

...of the voters are as stupid as t-rump.

[SoCalMusicLover]

8. And Nominate Who?

The only candidate who would have any chance at this late date, is Paul Ryan, and they need him right where he is, as party leader in the House.

Trump is their best chance at winning, but perhaps they don't want that to even have a chance at happening.

[Exilednight]

9. There is one vague word in Rule 9.

"otherwise" leaves a lot of wiggle room for them to dump him.

[CajunBlazer]

12. Give it a rest

No way in hell are they going to dump Trump. They know that while they have a rebellion of their GOP rank and file on their hands right now, it is nothing compared to the explosion they will experience if the even talk about getting rid of Trump.

Trump would have to remove himself from the race and if he did he would be labeled, and correctly so, as a quitter for the rest of his life, so that isn't going to happen. He is already gathering his excuses to explain his loss - "it's a rigged election" and "the establishment in both parties are against me".

The RNC best bet is to let him lose, hopefully not in a landslide which will eliminate their chances to retain power in the Senate and maybe even the House, and thus teach their party base not to rebel in the future.

[MohRokTah]

15. Too late, they ahve to carry the candidacy to term even if it threatens the life of the party. eom

[oberliner]

16. You can't imagine the ISIL comment not exploding tomorrow?

Trump has been calling Hillary the founder of ISIS for the past two weeks.

[nymichael]

17. RNC Chair warns Trump, but he doesn't care

Trump on CNBC’s “Squawk Box”“: "If at the end of 90 days I fall in short because I'm somewhat politically incorrect even though I'm supposed to be the smart one and even though I'm supposed to have a lot of good ideas, it's okay,” he continued. “I go back to a very good way of life.”

Wait what? That's how important this is to him? Wow.

[Demsrule86]

18. The Republicans have done that for years. nt

[tinrobot]

20. The RNC will never do it because it makes them look weak.

In their minds, it is better to lose an election badly than it is to capitulate.

Besides, Obama already told them to dump the Orange Menace, so now they can't.