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bonemachine

(757 posts)
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:55 PM Aug 2016

Trending on Facebook: Clinton seeks Kissinger and Rice endorsements

https://www.facebook.com/topic/Henry-Kissinger-and-Condaleezza-Rice/108475205843322?source=share&tr=1470868141


Politico reported Monday a source close to the Clinton campaign said her team sent "feelers" to Rice, Kissinger and other former GOP secretaries of state who have withheld support for Donald Trump.



Can someone explain to me why it would be a good thing to be endorsed by this pair of war criminals? Like, I get the idea of trying to peel voters away from Trump, but this seems just gross to me...

I know that Clinton has a camaraderie with Kissinger, for reasons I can't grasp, so that at least has an internal logic, regardless of how repulsive I, and most right thinking folks who remember their history, find him to be.

But Rice? Really? WHY?
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Trending on Facebook: Clinton seeks Kissinger and Rice endorsements (Original Post) bonemachine Aug 2016 OP
It would be a good thing because it would help her win. Any other questions? DanTex Aug 2016 #1
Rice is a war criminal like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, & Rove Chasstev365 Aug 2016 #2
Or maybe you should take Facebook Feeds and second hand reports of what's in Politico emulatorloo Aug 2016 #4
Fair Point, but I really hope it's not true! Chasstev365 Aug 2016 #5
Me too! emulatorloo Aug 2016 #6
I'll believe it when I see it. emulatorloo Aug 2016 #3
Lol Dem2 Aug 2016 #7
Maybe it's because I was weaned on Doonesbury bonemachine Aug 2016 #8
I just don't care Dem2 Aug 2016 #9
If he's not relevant bonemachine Aug 2016 #10
Old, respected Republican by old white people. Dem2 Aug 2016 #11
To piss off Trump and his supporters? zappaman Aug 2016 #12
BTW, What does "Trending on Facebook" mean? Does that mean it's TRUE? Or does that mean emulatorloo Aug 2016 #13
It doesn't mean that it's true or false bonemachine Aug 2016 #14
I've not seen any documentation that's she's "courting" Rice or Kissinger emulatorloo Aug 2016 #15

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
1. It would be a good thing because it would help her win. Any other questions?
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:58 PM
Aug 2016

If she doesn't win, then Trump wins. Not complicated.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
2. Rice is a war criminal like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, & Rove
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:59 PM
Aug 2016

So is Kissinger!

THIS is why Washington is just a little too cozy for some of us!

emulatorloo

(44,211 posts)
4. Or maybe you should take Facebook Feeds and second hand reports of what's in Politico
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:02 PM
Aug 2016

with a grain of salt.

I'm not gonna get outraged over something that hasn't happened.

bonemachine

(757 posts)
8. Maybe it's because I was weaned on Doonesbury
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:07 PM
Aug 2016

but I've known Kissinger was a soulless, evil fuck since I was a pre-teen.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
11. Old, respected Republican by old white people.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:10 PM
Aug 2016

The kind of voter that votes Republican based on tradition.

But the bigger point is that she seeks endorsements by a lot of Republicans, this is just being blown out of proportion.

emulatorloo

(44,211 posts)
13. BTW, What does "Trending on Facebook" mean? Does that mean it's TRUE? Or does that mean
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:43 PM
Aug 2016

lots of folks are talking about unsubstantiated rumors?

My guess would be the latter. I have a pretty poor opinion of Facebook, so I don't find TRENDING ON FACEBOOK tremendously compelling.

bonemachine

(757 posts)
14. It doesn't mean that it's true or false
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:50 PM
Aug 2016

But it does mean that it has people's attention, which is interesting in and of itself, no?

Also, that Clinton has been courting prominent republicans I think has been fairly well documented at this point, no?

emulatorloo

(44,211 posts)
15. I've not seen any documentation that's she's "courting" Rice or Kissinger
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 08:18 PM
Aug 2016

I've read thru your link and I see "Mint Press News" asserting it.

And I see a couple folks repeating something in a fact-free speculative article from Politico that quoted an anonymous source.

The article speculates Clinton is after Kissinger and Rice but has no facts to back it up

I will also note that the anonymous source is paraphrased as saying Clinton campaign has sent out feelers to GOP elders. The source says NOTHING about Kissinger or Rice.

I've posted the relevant paragraphs. IMHO this article is nothing but clickbait.

Can Clinton corner Condi, Kissinger?
Winning more endorsements from wary GOP foreign policy experts presents a big opportunity.
By Nahal Toosi
08/08/16 05:28 AM EDT
Updated 08/08/16 05:00 PM EDT

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/clinton-republican-elder-statesmen-kissinger-226680#ixzz4Gsoym4I1

"As Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign reaches out to Republicans alarmed by Donald Trump's national security blunders, there’s a group of high-profile GOP hold-outs whose endorsement would be a major coup if the Democrat could win them over."

Condoleezza Rice, James Baker, George Shultz and Henry Kissinger are among a handful of so-called Republican “elders” with foreign policy and national security experience — people who have held Cabinet-level or otherwise high-ranking positions in past administrations — who have yet to come out for or against Trump.

A person close to Clinton said her team has sent out feelers to the GOP elders, although it wasn't clear if those efforts were preliminary or more formal requests for endorsement, or if they were undertaken through intermediaries. Clinton campaign aides did not respond when asked if they had solicited endorsements or tried to persuade the elders to speak out against Trump.

POLITICO also reached out to Rice, Baker, Kissinger and Shultz for comment, but either did not get a response, was told the person would not comment or was told they had not yet taken a position on Trump. (An aide to Rice said, “We have not been in touch with the Clinton campaign,” but did not elaborate further.

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I've been around the block with Politico, this is not the first time they've published speculative articles with no back-up. Won't be the last.

So basically what I am seeing at your link is a bunch of folk who are very predisposed to think the worst of HRC getting way too excited about a fact-free article.



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