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babylonsister

(171,102 posts)
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:39 PM Aug 2016

Trump Just Told His Supporters That Assassinating Hillary Clinton Is An Option

When is enough enough with this clod? Get the hook!

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/09/trump-urges-supporters-shoot-hillary-clinton-stop-supreme-court-picks.html
Trump Just Told His Supporters That Assassinating Hillary Clinton Is An Option

By Jason Easley on Tue, Aug 9th, 2016 at 3:28 pm

Donald Trump suggested that one of his supporters could shoot Hillary Clinton to stop her from picking Supreme Court justices if she is elected president.



Donald Trump suggested that one of his supporters could shoot Hillary Clinton to stop her from picking Supreme Court justices if she is elected president.
Video @ link:

Trump said, “By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks. Although, the Second Amendment people maybe there is. I don’t know.”

Donald Trump’s defenders will immediately claim that he was “joking,” but Trump’s comments certainly didn’t sound like a joke. There was no laughter. Trump didn’t say he was kidding. What Donald Trump was doing was suggesting that someone assassinate Hillary Clinton.

Even if Trump was joking, no one, especially not a major party presidential nominee, should joke about a presidential candidate being shot. Trump could provoke an assassination attempt against Hillary Clinton.

Donald Trump isn’t just a danger to the country. He is proving himself to be a personal danger to the life of the Democratic nominee.

The Secret Service should be having a conversation with Donald Trump very shortly.

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Trump Just Told His Supporters That Assassinating Hillary Clinton Is An Option (Original Post) babylonsister Aug 2016 OP
How the bloody hell is this bastard not being investigated? VulgarPoet Aug 2016 #1
but not until November... lapfog_1 Aug 2016 #2
Democrats are not regressive and Hillary could beat Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #5
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #13
Of course I want the GOP to be gone Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #24
This fucker IS FACEBOOK get the red out Aug 2016 #3
They tried to keep it hidden for as long as they could, but the tea party finally gave it a face. C Moon Aug 2016 #58
Well let's be fair whatthehey Aug 2016 #4
No, it is clear what he meant. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #6
Well if you are going to be humorlessly pedantic, no it really isn't whatthehey Aug 2016 #11
I have to tip my hat to your post... Whiskeytide Aug 2016 #22
It is clear what he meant Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #63
You are joking? OK. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #64
And that's better? shraby Aug 2016 #21
Um, NO. NO. Under ANY circumstances WHATSOEVER. calimary Aug 2016 #35
Remember when a kid in, I think, grade school--or maybe middle school--got in trouble tblue37 Aug 2016 #7
I keep seeing this IOKIYAR and know not what it means Ligyron Aug 2016 #30
It's OK If You're A Republican kestrel91316 Aug 2016 #32
I know what you mean PJMcK Aug 2016 #52
He had better watch MFM008 Aug 2016 #8
CNN just caught up. They're about to address it. nolabear Aug 2016 #9
I'm curious about how they will handle it. Kber Aug 2016 #12
What do you want to bet they draw a false equivalence democrattotheend Aug 2016 #18
Guaranteed. nt Stubborn Aug 2016 #27
Welcome to DU. calimary Aug 2016 #37
I'll be interested to see if we hear from the Secret Service about this. napi21 Aug 2016 #10
Between this and the Orlando shooter's father getting into that rally I'm unnerved! nolabear Aug 2016 #14
Don't be ridiculous and racist. The Orlando shooter's father has committed no crime. kestrel91316 Aug 2016 #31
I'm not being either. My point is that had they known he was there he wouldn't have been behind her. nolabear Aug 2016 #56
Wearing a bullet proof vest Runningdawg Aug 2016 #15
Drop out now Johnny2X2X Aug 2016 #16
Just when one thinks that TrumPutin can't get any worse, GoneOffShore Aug 2016 #17
I'm morbidly curious to see Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #19
Dog Whistle for some crazy Right Wing Nut to do it so "America can be Great Again". timlot Aug 2016 #20
He could have meant Geronimoe Aug 2016 #23
How would that stop Hillary from naming judges? Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #33
How can anybody who even pretends to be an American vote for a sniveling coward like the amber world wide wally Aug 2016 #25
He then goes on to say it 'will' be a horrible day but...unbelievable. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #26
Who will rid me of this troublesome priest? cer7711 Aug 2016 #28
Threatening the life of a presidential candidate is a Federal Offense......Lock him up!!! W T F Aug 2016 #29
I will stop paying my income taxes if he becomes president bluestateguy Aug 2016 #34
Jeff Sessions on CNN Johnny2X2X Aug 2016 #36
No matter how the matter is parsed... sanatanadharma Aug 2016 #38
A prime example...he is either not serious or Chakaconcarne Aug 2016 #39
He's clearly in over his head; babylonsister Aug 2016 #40
The way he said it--textbook Narcissist and Sociopath speaking style. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #41
The republican party are full sick idiots rockfordfile Aug 2016 #42
Don't let him get away with it. It was intentional. He knows what it means. He'll play innocent... NurseJackie Aug 2016 #43
It is typical behavior Hav Aug 2016 #44
Sarah Palin, anyone? July Aug 2016 #61
WTF? I was in a day long meeting (with few breaks) etherealtruth Aug 2016 #45
Video of the craven utterance BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #46
thank you etherealtruth Aug 2016 #48
Secret Service needs to go see TRump wearing these .... JoePhilly Aug 2016 #47
... napkinz Aug 2016 #49
Usually, Trump makes me angry or amused. This? This actually leaves me cold. malchickiwick Aug 2016 #50
From someone else who is new to posting, Welcome to DU. st17011864200074656 Aug 2016 #55
And welcome to DU! babylonsister Aug 2016 #66
Great post and welcome to DU nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #69
Welcome to DU! babylonsister Aug 2016 #65
Excellent post... WiffenPoof Aug 2016 #67
Who are the old couple in the back of him (the guy looks like a think Santa) redstatebluegirl Aug 2016 #51
I thought he was telling as to exactly what Donald meant. He knew. He said "WHOA." nolabear Aug 2016 #57
I just saw this NastyRiffraff Aug 2016 #53
IMO, MSNBC is playing it down. Laffy Kat Aug 2016 #54
Give it a few hours. This is going to be taken very seriously. nolabear Aug 2016 #59
Just like the Khan family remarks n/t AwakeAtLast Aug 2016 #68
How low can he go in his comments and get away with it? kimbutgar Aug 2016 #60
Uh, I stepped away from the news for a few hours, ate dinner, watched a movie auntpurl Aug 2016 #62
Offhand remark, or calculated dog whistle? Martin Eden Aug 2016 #70
Secret Service 'aware' of Trump's 2nd Amendment remark about Clinton napkinz Aug 2016 #71

lapfog_1

(29,228 posts)
2. but not until November...
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:44 PM
Aug 2016

We absolutely need him as the GOP standard bearer until then.

They created this monster, let them own it... and the loss of the Presidency, the Senate, and the House because of it... and then we start working on state races.

In the end, I want the GOP destroyed utterly and completely, a shell of an organization that occasionally makes news for the John Birch people they run. I want the Democrats to be the new "regressive" party and some new progressive party (true left) to arise to be the opposition.

Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #5)

Demsrule86

(68,719 posts)
24. Of course I want the GOP to be gone
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:41 PM
Aug 2016

But the Democratic party is not regressive and I doubt very much GOP types would want to be members. I am so sick of the Democratic is not this or not that...every bit of progressive achievement we have today is because of the Democrat Party. Nancy Pelosi sacrificed her majority in order to pass health care ...is it perfect? No, but it has saved thousands of lives and in my opinion, she and others like her are heroes. No party is perfect but I am proud to be a Democrat. You may not have meant your remark to be insulting but it was.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
3. This fucker IS FACEBOOK
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:48 PM
Aug 2016

This is the kind of shit that drove me to "unfriend" nearly everyone I grew up with in this "red state". Implying that someone ought to kill the President, praying for his death, and on and on. This shit head is nothing but one RW Facebook post after another.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
11. Well if you are going to be humorlessly pedantic, no it really isn't
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:10 PM
Aug 2016

What they supposedly "can do nothing about" is if she appoints judges. The 2nd amendment option then added is not linked either grammatically or logically (ok this is Trump so you wouldn't expect it) to either "she" or "judges" specifically or separately. If you don't want HRC to appoint, say, Srinivasan, you can kill either Clinton or Srinivasan to stop that and the sentences still have the exact same implication. No syntax or grammar to define either way. Extending this to logic, if anything shooting the judges would be more inductively valid, because if you kill Clinton, Kaine can still nominate Srinivasan, whereas if you kill Srinivasan, he's off the bench for sure. To be sure we can assume Kaine would nominate an equally disagreeable judge to the right, but the appointment is more effectively quashed that way, not to mention a judge would be a less challenging target. Did Trump mean Clinton or the judges? What rational person even knowns what his stream of consciousness crap means? I doubt he does. It's surely clear he means someone should be killed, and doing an armchair psych bit Clinton is more likely to be on his mind, but clear it surely isn't.

Demsrule86

(68,719 posts)
63. It is clear what he meant
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:36 PM
Aug 2016

first, he said ...nothing can be done...then but second amendement might yadayada... He finishes by saying that will be a terrible day...Are you a Trump supporter?

calimary

(81,532 posts)
35. Um, NO. NO. Under ANY circumstances WHATSOEVER.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:16 PM
Aug 2016

NO. This is just NOT done!

Shit - the Olympics are on so news coverage is kinda taking a holiday.

I suggest we tweet EVERYBODY at MSNBC and ALSO on CNN - to make sure they didn't miss this, and that they cover it.

I just ran through a whole load of 'em, from Jake Tapper to Chuck Todd, from Wolf Blitzer to Morning Joe.

Make it unavoidable, folks!

tblue37

(65,502 posts)
7. Remember when a kid in, I think, grade school--or maybe middle school--got in trouble
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 03:59 PM
Aug 2016

for drawing a cartoon featuring W and a weapon? It was treated as a threat against the president.

So how does Trump, or how do the other GOP politicians and pundits, get away with suggesting "2nd Amendment remedies" to replace voting as a way to select office holders?

Oh, yeah--IOKIYAR.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
30. I keep seeing this IOKIYAR and know not what it means
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:04 PM
Aug 2016

I'm usually pretty good at decoding acronyms.

PJMcK

(22,059 posts)
52. I know what you mean
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:22 PM
Aug 2016

Should you find initials or acronyms that are indecipherable, I highly recommend the Urban Dictionary:

http://www.urbandictionary.com

It's informative, witty and often dirty so be prepared!

MFM008

(19,826 posts)
8. He had better watch
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:00 PM
Aug 2016

That plane with the huge TRUMP letters on the side.
Anything can happen in the wide blue yonder. You could hit a bird.

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
18. What do you want to bet they draw a false equivalence
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:31 PM
Aug 2016

Between what Trump said today and what Hillary said about Robert Kennedy in 2008? I am sorry, but even under the worst interpretation of that comment, nobody could reasonably believe that she was calling for Obama to be assassinated. But I wouldn't be surprised if they try to equate the two.

calimary

(81,532 posts)
37. Welcome to DU.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:20 PM
Aug 2016

I swear, I'm shaking! I told my husband about it and he literally started screaming - "WHAT????? WHAT???????!!!!!!!!" He's shaken, too. And I don't see too much of that, out of my calm, collected, cool-headed guy.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
10. I'll be interested to see if we hear from the Secret Service about this.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:01 PM
Aug 2016

I don't know if it will ever be made public, but I'm positive the SS is discussing how to handle this situation. Hell, people on Facebook have been visited because of talk like that. If nothing else, I'm sure he's been warned NOT TO SAY THAT KIND OF STUFF AGAIN!

With such a contentious campaign going on, public statements like that are very frightening to the SS, and with Don the Con encouraging violence, it makes it worse.

nolabear

(41,999 posts)
14. Between this and the Orlando shooter's father getting into that rally I'm unnerved!
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:13 PM
Aug 2016

The creep factor is off the charts.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
31. Don't be ridiculous and racist. The Orlando shooter's father has committed no crime.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:06 PM
Aug 2016

He certainly didn't support his son's crime.

nolabear

(41,999 posts)
56. I'm not being either. My point is that had they known he was there he wouldn't have been behind her.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:32 PM
Aug 2016

And that extrapolates to the ease with which someone could get that close to her.

The rest is your invention.

GoneOffShore

(17,342 posts)
17. Just when one thinks that TrumPutin can't get any worse,
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:30 PM
Aug 2016

He tops himself (would that he would top himself - as we used to say in the UK).

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
19. I'm morbidly curious to see
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:32 PM
Aug 2016

how far Trump is going to push the boundaries by the time October gets here, if he is this extreme now...

 

timlot

(456 posts)
20. Dog Whistle for some crazy Right Wing Nut to do it so "America can be Great Again".
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:33 PM
Aug 2016

A new low for political discourse.

Demsrule86

(68,719 posts)
33. How would that stop Hillary from naming judges?
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:08 PM
Aug 2016

Tbe Only thing that makes sense is that he was advocating for the assassination of Hillary Clinton. If he shot the judges, she could still name other judges. It is clear what he meant.

world wide wally

(21,757 posts)
25. How can anybody who even pretends to be an American vote for a sniveling coward like the amber
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:50 PM
Aug 2016

douchebag who asks Russia to hack his opponent and his craziest of supporters to shoot her because he knows he can't get more votes than she does?
Why don't you Trumpophiles just come out and say "fuck America. We just want our God-like leader Trump?

Johnny2X2X

(19,208 posts)
36. Jeff Sessions on CNN
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:19 PM
Aug 2016

Was blindsided. Didn't know quite what to say. Tried to chance the subject, but had no clear response.

Even he has to be thinking WTF? Donald will never stay on message.

sanatanadharma

(3,740 posts)
38. No matter how the matter is parsed...
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:25 PM
Aug 2016

No matter how the matter is parsed, Trump's comments are clearly calling the single-issue 2nd amendment gun owners to bring their armed power threats into the fray.

He is saying that within the Trump tribe trying to stop Madame President, the only political power with enough clout is in the not yet cold dead hands of the armed segment of their big-pup-tent tribe.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
41. The way he said it--textbook Narcissist and Sociopath speaking style.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:41 PM
Aug 2016

You speak cryptically enough to be able to deny responsibility.


Trump said, “By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks. Although, the Second Amendment people maybe there is. I don’t know.”


But you know the intent to cause harm and chaos to specific people and to "those lefties" in general, is conveyed by your message, and you know it will materialize.

At the least, you cause confusion in your listeners/targets. At "best", you incite more impulsive whack-jobs to do your dirty work for you. Among the middle, largest percentage of your followers, you stir up fear, anger, screaming and aggression.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
43. Don't let him get away with it. It was intentional. He knows what it means. He'll play innocent...
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:43 PM
Aug 2016

... and try to make you believe he meant something different, but don't believe it.

We don't have to meet court-of-law prosecutorial standards before we can condemn and call-out behavior like that. We know EXACTLY what he meant! It was an inflammatory lie, followed by a call-to-action for his supporters.

IT WAS A THREAT!!

His denying what he meant by that is along the lines of someone denying that "see you next Tuesday" doesn't mean anything vulgar and misogynistic either.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
44. It is typical behavior
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:54 PM
Aug 2016

Typical behavior of people who want something illegal to be done but who don't want to get their own hands dirty. Say something vile, incite violence and then play dumb when one insane person acts on the hints you put out in the open.

July

(4,751 posts)
61. Sarah Palin, anyone?
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:40 PM
Aug 2016

Remember the map with crosshairs over Gabby Giffords's district (and a few others', as well)?

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
45. WTF? I was in a day long meeting (with few breaks)
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:54 PM
Aug 2016

I can't believe this (I do, but don't want to) ....WTF?

Even this sick eff's run for the residency is doing unimaginable damage to our country.

WTF

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
48. thank you
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:10 PM
Aug 2016

In all honesty I am shocked and horrified .... I am not surprised to find myself horrified .... but, I truly would have not thought he could shock me.


It is unfathomable that he could say something like this.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
50. Usually, Trump makes me angry or amused. This? This actually leaves me cold.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:16 PM
Aug 2016

I'm here on DU everyday, and have been for a coupla years -- reading, obviously, and not posting much. But this, suddenly, I have to comment: Trump I can usually dismiss as a blathering buffoon and a Cheeto-hued cocksplat. I love ridiculing him, mocking his supporters, and usually the only other emotion he raises in me is a low-grade, slow-burn angry exasperation. His latest comment insinuating that assassination is an appropriate response to political disagreement -- though it does piss me off -- actually has me on the verge of tears. I feel like I am mourning something, like I've lost a friend.

Trump is no canary in the coal mine; he is the fucking cloud of toxic gas itself, and he has permeated so thoroughly, I don't know if we will ever be able fully air the place out. I don't know if a good electoral throat-stomping of the fucker come November will be enough to eradicate Trumpism from our great republic, but it sure as hell is what I will be working for. Thank god that for the first time in my life I can vote in a battle-ground state (moved to NV recently).

Sorry for the long post; I think I needed to vent...

55. From someone else who is new to posting, Welcome to DU.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:27 PM
Aug 2016

Trump's comments are extremely dangerous, and go to prove that every thing people have said about him are very true. It would be morbidly humorous if he could be labeled as a loony caricature of the nastiness of the right, but he and his supporters have demonstrated that he is the real deal. He has ripped the mask off of the cesspit that is modern unprincipled conservatism, that seeks power for the sake of power.

Just know that your not alone, and that Trump no real chance of being elected, and that the reactionary right is fading, however slowly, but fading nonetheless.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
51. Who are the old couple in the back of him (the guy looks like a think Santa)
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:18 PM
Aug 2016

who are laughing at that comment? They need to be investigated as well.

nolabear

(41,999 posts)
57. I thought he was telling as to exactly what Donald meant. He knew. He said "WHOA."
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:35 PM
Aug 2016

And he laughed. I might be deluding myself but even he knew that was a nudge and wink to those who might just interpret it as license to act.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
53. I just saw this
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:22 PM
Aug 2016

To say I'm appalled doesn't begin to describe how I feel. Terrified? Shaking with anger? Crying? All of those.

Isn't it a CRIME to threaten physical harm to a presidential nominee? I fervently hope the Secret Service is on this. There is no possible doubt what he meant; his lame "I don't know" at the end is something he does all the time.

Laffy Kat

(16,389 posts)
54. IMO, MSNBC is playing it down.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:24 PM
Aug 2016

Donny Deutsch (sp?) called it a "bad joke" and "uncouth." Are you effing kidding me?

kimbutgar

(21,224 posts)
60. How low can he go in his comments and get away with it?
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:38 PM
Aug 2016

Can you imagine the outrage if Hillary suggested second amendment remedies against Cheeto? Fox would be blaring this on a 24 hour loop. Just when I think Cheeto goes too low he goes lower. He's practically a gopher now.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
62. Uh, I stepped away from the news for a few hours, ate dinner, watched a movie
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:47 PM
Aug 2016

and come back to...this. Just, what the fuck. I truly think this is the worst thing he's done. I actually cannot believe he said what he said.

BTW, this is headline news in the UK too - both BBC and Guardian have it front page, headline.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
71. Secret Service 'aware' of Trump's 2nd Amendment remark about Clinton
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 08:47 AM
Aug 2016

By Doug G. Ware
Aug. 9, 2016 at 8:57 PM

WILMINGTON, N.C., Aug. 9 (UPI) -- The U.S. Secret Service could potentially take a step unprecedented in American political history -- investigate one of the candidates it is assigned to protect.

The agency said it is "aware" of a remark made by GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump at a North Carolina campaign stop on Tuesday, which appeared to some a thinly-veiled quip about threatening Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton with gun violence.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/08/09/Secret-Service-aware-of-Trumps-2nd-Amendment-remark-about-Clinton/4071470788911/

U.S. Secret ServiceVerified account
?@SecretService
The Secret Service is aware of the comments made earlier this afternoon.

https://twitter.com/SecretService
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