Donald Trump: perhaps someone could shoot Hillary Clinton

[brooklynite]

Earlier today, Wilmington, NC

Just a guess, but he's off the Teleprompter again...

[liberalmuse]

1. Holy Sh*t!

I hope he is called out by the media and everyone else bigtime. Vile POS!

[Renew Deal]

2. He's not going to make it to labor day

[Stuart G]

50. He may not make through this week...that comment is unbelieveable

[napkinz]

85. I think a few more Republican senators are going to join Susan Collins after this

[Stuart G]

86. I agree with you..and some other Republican big shots too..

[chillfactor]

3. unbelievable!

now he is pushing his deranged supporters to contemplate murder?

[tblue37]

52. Stochastic terrorism:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/01/10/934890/-Stochastic-Terrorism-160-Triggering-the-shooters

Stochastic Terrorism: Triggering the shooters.

By G2geek
Monday Jan 10, 2011 · 8:37 PM CST

Stochastic terrorism is the use of mass communications to stir up random lone wolves to carry out violent or terrorist acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable.

This is what occurs when Bin Laden releases a video that stirs random extremists halfway around the globe to commit a bombing or shooting.

This is also the term for what Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity, and others do. And this is what led directly and predictably to a number of cases of ideologically-motivated murder similar to the Tucson shootings.

SNIP


The person who actually plants the bomb or assassinates the public official is not the stochastic terrorist, they are the "missile" set in motion by the stochastic terrorist. The stochastic terrorist is the person who uses mass media as their means of setting those "missiles" in motion.

SNIP

[kestrel91316]

61. It's a form of "putting out a hit" on somebody.

[SummerSnow]

65. They'll be at his rallies chanting " KILL HER, KILL HER"

[MichiganVote]

4. Secret service is not going to like that.

[VMA131Marine]

5. WTF!

His Secret Service detail needs to have few words with him.

[COLGATE4]

6. Un-fucking-believable.

If the MSM doesn't call him on this, they are truly in the bag.

[livetohike]

7. Someone needs to check and see he isn't hiding

666 tattooed on his forehead. I despise this man.

[Kber]

8. Incitement to murder is not protected speech

Neither is advocating the violent overthrow of the government.

[meow2u3]

69. Nor is threatening Presidential candidates, former Presidents, or ex-first ladies

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/879

[underpants]

9. No doubt what he meant by that.

Another new low

[sarae]

45. CNN was just talking about this with a Trump surrogate,

a blond woman (Kayleigh something)...

Her interpretation was that he probably meant 2nd Amendment supporters would have recourse because the NRA is so powerful as a lobbyist group. And she said this with a straight face.

[Whiskeytide]

10. Wow. I thought this was a joke...

... What the Hell do you say about that?

[emulatorloo]

16. Somethings you just don't joke about.

Like having the Democrat killed. Way over the top. And I bet some whackjobs took the suggestion seriously.

[Whiskeytide]

20. I'm generally pretty unimpressed with...

...politispeak. Mostly meaningless BS - often from both sides. But that absolutely floors me. His supporters are deranged enough to act on that statement - perhaps a very small contingent of them - but it only takes one. He has to know that.

And I don't see how he crawfishes away from this. What else could he have meant? That they could organize a militia in protest? That they could go 2nd Amendment on her SCOTUS picks, and not Hillary herself (...yeah, that's much better)? I don't see how he walks that back.

He just said that assassinating her was a viable option to prevent her from appointing progressive justices. Wow!

[tblue37]

53. See my post #52 above. nt

[Whiskeytide]

57. Interesting. The entire dialogue is even more in...

... than vein. See my post #47.

[IronLionZion]

11. He doesn't want to be president

He's seeing how much he can get away with and nobody is more surprised he's made it this far than Trump himself.

[LAS14]

66. That's what I think.

[MineralMan]

12. Jebus Crutch!

And there he goes again...

[Kber]

13. McCain? Ryan?

McConnell?

You all down with this?

Inquiring minds want to know: is there anything that's too much?

[Curtland1015]

14. Whether he intended it as a joke or not...

...and as much as I hate the man, I'm sure he did, you just can't say that. You can't.

Because some lunatics listening just won't take it that way.

[Chemisse]

29. That's how he gets away with this - throwing things out as a 'joke.'

But he gets his point across. He is despicable.

[get the red out]

35. I hope the media doesn't laugh it off

He probably has supporters shopping for ammo right now.

[Chemisse]

40. We'll see if it's mentioned tonight.

Or at least on the talk shows in the morning.

[Demsrule86]

32. I saw the video ...he was not joking

Don't give him the benefit of the doubt. He does not deserve it.

[LAS14]

67. I wonder how the law reads about whether you...

... can count on everyone to get "the joke." You can't threaten the President. Can you threaten candidates? What's the law?

[etherealtruth]

74. Who the eff even "jokes" about something like that

[emulatorloo]

15. Wow! Remember Sharron Angel's 'second amendment remedies' comment? Sunk

her campaign, was the moment when the media could no longer pretend she was a credible candidate.

This is a big fucking deal, hope it gets some intense scrutiny and intense coverage.

[unitedwethrive]

17. Really Trumphole?! Isn't that illegal?

[Hortensis]

18. Remember when trolling for assassins was on Fox

News and talk radio all day long -- until the phenomenon became news itself? 2009, reaction to America's first black president.

I wonder who fed Trump this. Maybe it was in one of the tweets he reads.

[SunSeeker]

70. It appeared like he was repeating something he heard shouted by his deranged audience. nt

[Hortensis]

76. That sounds likely. Of script again.

And boy are the talking heads on it. Ex- CIA and NSA head General Michael Hayden said if he was a regular person he'd be tossed in the back of a police van for this. Hayden may be getting old. As much as I like the image of all the Fox trollers being hauled off for booking and questioning by the Secret Service, we don't arrest people for that. At least I hope not.

[SunSeeker]

77. They should be on it. Presidential candidates should not be inviting assassinations. nt

[Hortensis]

87. +1000. Someone is pointing out now that the RNC

has the power to replace a candidate, at least by his interpretation of "Rule 9," and that this kind of action is supported by a model in the Constitution in that a majority of the Cabinet can declare the president mentally or physically unfit and immediately the powers are transferred to the VP. The president can appeal to the House. (Another drama to look forward to some day!)

It's likely that Trump has never submitted himself to a certified professional to be formally diagnosed, so it would have to be overwhelming behavior problems that justified such an enormous action against the will of all those who voted for him--to significant numbers of those very people. Unfortunately, many are doubling down on their support.

Itm, this seems like just another straw on the camel's back of Trump's candidacy, which virtually certainly has already collapsed.

[Motley13]

19. When has the maggot ever told a joke

He is a joke, but who's laughing?

CNN idiot is trying to explain it, saying he meant she would get rid of the 2nd amendment if she appoints SC judges.

[brooklynite]

21. Let's review the quote, shall we?

And if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks. Although the second amendment folks, maybe there is

[Kber]

22. Only a willfully stupid person would buy the CNN idiot's explanation.

But we seem to have a surplus of those these days.

[MineralMan]

23. OK, here we go. A talk show guy on my local CBS news outlet just

quoted this on the air. It hasn't slipped by the media's attention. And this wasn't even a news show. They're talking about it now on the air. "How are they going to spin this?" the talk show host just said. Now, they're asking for listeners to call.

[Johnny2X2X]

24. Outrageous!!!

This needs to lead on every news channel this evening. He just told people to shoot the future President. This guy went too far.

[whatthehey]

25. That's so unfair. Give him some credit

He meant they should shoot the judges, and that's perfectly reasonable. Oh, it isn't? Okay then...

[UCmeNdc]

26. Instigator!

Donald Trump is pushing one of his crazy followers to do something stupid.

[unblock]

27. sorry donnie, not even that would keep hillary from kicking your butt in november.

[lindysalsagal]

28. If any bats%$t rwinger takes a shot at any dem, he's gonna own it. That's on tape and public.

When statements are made on camera in front of thousands of people, anyone with half a brain knows to keep it clean and not go anywhere near anything that could be misconstrued as unethical, immoral or even threatening.

Conversely, we've all said to someone off the cuff, "My ____'s gonna kill me" but it wasn't public, official or on the record.

There is a much higher threshold that a public speaker is required to pass for any public position, be it health administrator, town trustee, or dog catcher.

So for a presidential nominee to suggest, among all the other hostile moves made at his events, that anyone should use second amendment threats, should disqualify him from running.

I hope the DNC calls for just that.

[Chemisse]

37. Good point.

Trump is now on record as promoting assassination of Hillary.

[Whiskeytide]

39. I don't want to disqualify him ...

... I LIKE him being the GOP nominee! But I agree with everything else you said.

[nolabear]

30. Jake Tapper reporting it now. Says it's all over Washington.

I'm actually a bit scared for her.

[0rganism]

31. aka "will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?"

http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/Thomas-Becket/

[tblue37]

55. Precisely! nt

[Buckeye_Democrat]

33. That piece of sh*t!!!

If she gets shot, he's probably going to be responsible for it!



I have to log off for awhile.

[Beantighe]

34. wow...

just wow. I am embarrassed that there are people who still support this POS.

[nolabear]

36. Trump statement: he meant 2nd Amendment supporters should vote.

He'd better say that five thousand times. And he'd better pray she's the safest person on the planet.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

46. If he meant that he would have said it. He knew what he was saying but didn't think any further. nt

[Cracklin Charlie]

38. Does he think it will help his ego...

To get beat by a dead person?

Because even if she died, she would still beat his worthless ass.

[get the red out]

48. He just can't help himself

He cannot stay on script, he is not capable of it. He read from a teleprompter for what? 2 days before going completely over the edge with this statement? He has zero self-control, AND he is just parroting all the wretched crap that has been spewed out all over social media by the RW machine and it's followers for years.

[napkinz]

81. well, there goes that pivot all his surrogates were talking about

Donald will ALWAYS be Donald.

[Chemisse]

41. He followed it up with a statement about how horrible that will be.

As if that is adequate for covering his ass on this.

Speaking in Wilmington, Trump said, “If she gets to pick her judges – nothing you can do, folks.”

“Although, the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I dunno.”

“But I tell you what, that will be a horrible day.”

Trump went on to falsely claim that“Hillary essentially wants to abolish the Second Amendment.”

“If you don’t do what’s the right thing, you’re not going to have a Second Amendment. You’re not going to have much of it left. And you’re not gonna be able to protect yourselves, which you need.”

http://latest.com/2016/08/watch-trump-suggests-2nd-amendment-supporters-may-shoot-hillary-to-prevent-liberal-judges/

[Whiskeytide]

47. So let's analyze that statement...

"To stop her from appointing progressive judges, someone should shoot her".

"That WILL be a horrible day" (Not "would be&quot .

"But, if someone doesn't shoot her, you're going to lose your gun rights".

"Then you won't be able to defend yourself and your family".

It comes down to "it's either Hillary or your family".

WTF?

[tblue37]

60. EXACTLY! nt

[tblue37]

59. And THAT remark PROVES he was referring to assassination, not to voting,

or to getting the NRA to fund ads, or whatever other nonsense his surrogates are spewing to try to walk back the comment.

[Chemisse]

72. Indeed. It's useless to try and spin this.

His handlers should all just quit today.

[NYC Liberal]

79. I think "that will be a horrible day" is referring to Hillary picking judges

not getting shot.

[Chemisse]

83. Maybe you're right.

Since he does fly from one thought to another, one sentence needn't be connected to the previous one.

[SheriffBob]

42. trump's statement

has to be the straw that broke the camel's back.

If a sitting potus said that he/she would be impeached.

Lock him up!

[sarae]

43. I see he's pivoting beautifully...

[Kber]

64. He's done a full 360

[The Wielding Truth]

44. With that kind of speech, he's going to end up in jail instead of the White house.

[Stuart G]

49. k and r...nt

[user_name]

51. Just showed it to my 14-year-old son...

just out of curiosity. He's politically aware, but he's a kid. He immediately said, "Holy cow! He's saying that they should shoot her or the judges!"

[Curtland1015]

54. This is spreading like wildfire. Good job Trump, you orange moron!

The next few days are going to be very interesting.

[tblue37]

63. Charles Pierce and "Esquire" generally are on it with articles:

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a47492/trump-hillary-assassination/


http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/videos/a47491/donald-trump-hints-at-hillary-clinton-assassination/

[Bill USA]

56. isn't this the same thing as inciting to riot? there's a law against that.

[Renew Deal]

62. His secret service detail should have thrown him into hand cuffs on the spot

[HockeyMom]

58. Why stop with just Hillary, Trump

Shoot anyone who has a Hillary Bumper Sticker on their car. More votes for HIM.

[bluestateguy]

68. I will stop paying my income taxes if he becomes president

nt

[sanatanadharma]

71. 2016 election, the gun-grabbers vs the trigger-pullers

No matter how the matter is parsed, Trump's comments are clearly calling the single-issue 2nd amendment gun owners to bring their armed power threats into the fray.

He is saying that within the Trump tribe trying to stop Madame President, the only political power with enough clout is in the not yet cold dead hands of the armed segment of their big-pup-tent tribe.

[NBachers]

73. They're trying to do a Gabby Giffords on her.

[NurseJackie]

75. Don't let him get away with it. It was intentional. He knows what it means. He'll play innocent...

... and try to make you believe he meant something different, but don't believe it.

We don't have to meet court-of-law prosecutorial standards before we can condemn and call-out behavior like that. We know EXACTLY what he meant! It was an inflammatory lie, followed by a call-to-action for his supporters.

IT WAS A THREAT!!

His denying what he meant by that is along the lines of someone denying that "see you next Tuesday" doesn't mean anything vulgar and misogynistic either.

[Hav]

78. I haven't seen a longer clip yet

But from that video, it is encouraging that it didn't result in definite agreement from the crowd. I interpret the older guy's reaction in the red shirt on Donald's left as a "What the hell did he just say?".
There is hope that more republicans see how horrible Trump is.

[napkinz]

80. lock him up!

[wiggs]

82. He's employing ISIS strategy. He wants a counter-attack. He wants his opponents to lower

themselves down to his level, where he is comfortable. He wants to be the victim so he can rally his supporters against the ones rigging the election, the ones who are unfair, the ones who are corrupt. He wants a political equivalent of a world war.

[napkinz]

84. This is the 2nd Time in 3 Weeks That Trump Has Threatened Hillary Clinton’s Life

After Trump adviser Al Baldasaro told a radio host that Clinton “should be put in the firing line and shot for treason, CNN reported on July 20th, “The US Secret Service is investigating an informal adviser to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign after he called for Hillary Clinton’s execution.”

It is just now August 9th. Donald Trump didn’t distance himself from Baldarsaro. Rather, he praised him. Two days ago, Think Progress reported, “Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has confirmed that his adviser who once called for Hillary Clinton’s execution is still part of the campaign… ‘Al has been so great,’ Trump said. ‘Where’s Al? Where’s my vet?’”

Given the insane hate at Donald Trump’s rallies, as captured by the The New York Times in a chilling video of Trump supporters complied from their time on the trail covering Trump, there is no reason to believe this will be taken as a “joke”. It didn’t get any laughter.

Trump supporters shout things like, “Kill her!” and “Trump that bitch!” on such a regular basis that reporters felt it necessary to document it in compiled footage.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/09/time-weeks-trump-campaign-threatened-kill-hillary-clinton.html