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GaYellowDawg

(4,449 posts)
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 05:19 PM Aug 2016

Greens: Fuck 'em.

They're trying to Naderize this election, so fuck 'em. Stein's running around trying to claim - just like Nader tried to claim - that there's no difference between the Democratic and Republican parties.

We don't have to be polite to them. They're not trying to be polite to Democrats. In fact, they are trying to undermine us. Know what we ought to do? While they're down there trying to undermine us, we ought to step on them. HARD. They wouldn't hesitate to step on us, given the opportunity.

We don't have to "make space" for the Green far left. I don't want extremists in control of my party. I've seen what it did to the Republican Party, and no thanks. I don't want our party to be Republican Lite, but I don't want it to be the Green party, either.

Jill Stein is a lying asshole. Anyone who has been a medical professional but has also been anti-vax is a complete fucking quack. She's just as much of a quack as Bill Frist, but in the opposite direction. And she's been trying to evade the whole anti-vaxxer thing, too.

Ajamu Baraka is an extremist asshole. He said that President Obama shows "obsequious deference to white power." Called Bernie Sanders a white supremacist (any Bernie supporters feel warm and fuzzy about the Greens after that?). He also said that Cornel West is "sheep dogging for the Democrats." When you're so much of an extremist asshole that you make Cornel West look sane, then screw you.

So fuck the Green Party. The only thing we need from them is the occasional decent idea that comes bubbling out of the woo soup. And we definitely don't need to take any chances on them getting the opportunity to Naderize this election.




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Greens: Fuck 'em. (Original Post) GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 OP
And their defenders, apologists, trouble-makers, and shit-stirrers... NurseJackie Aug 2016 #1
...and the horse, and Nader wherever the arrogant, self-centered fucker is rotting away. FreeStateDemocrat Aug 2016 #2
Kick Squinch Aug 2016 #3
So do you get the feeling the man doesnt really smell that good also? Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #4
Shhhh... grubbs Aug 2016 #5
I'll take a bullet for ya'-DT is an asshole Jill Stein is an asshole too. MichiganVote Aug 2016 #8
Appeal it. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #11
I thought the Greens were fair game too. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #34
All male Green supporters lancer78 Aug 2016 #6
The Green Party is trying to elect Trump Gothmog Aug 2016 #7
Gore had more to do with his losing the 2000 election than Nadar did. That Guy 888 Aug 2016 #9
Without Nader, Gore wins. GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #10
No, he didn't. 100% the fault of FUCKING Ralph NAder and Green assholes! MohRokTah Aug 2016 #12
I agree. We have NADER to thank for so much... Still In Wisconsin Aug 2016 #19
Black box voting. Funny how we're all supposed to politely forget that... DRoseDARs Aug 2016 #20
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! MohRokTah Aug 2016 #22
However, we do in fact discuss BBV, in addition to other factors which ensured Gore's loss LanternWaste Aug 2016 #29
Take a look at the replies in this thread. Depressingly proves my point. DRoseDARs Aug 2016 #35
100% the fault of FUCKING Marcia Moorehead and the World Workers Party assholes. progressoid Aug 2016 #28
Gore actually won that election, in both popular and electoral vote Downtown Hound Aug 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author DRoseDARs Aug 2016 #21
Stein is an egotistical, narcissistic, oppurtunist. liberalnarb Aug 2016 #14
Republicans funded Nader. Are they funding Stein? (NT) The Wizard Aug 2016 #15
Greens Ate Normalizing Trump TomCADem Aug 2016 #16
Blame Gore Geronimoe Aug 2016 #17
Nothing like maintaining the status quo Chakaconcarne Aug 2016 #18
I don't consider any party other than the Democratic Party worth voting for. GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #23
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #33
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #36
The Greens aren't a party; it's a Stein vanity project Blue_Adept Aug 2016 #30
Fuck 'em EricMaundry Aug 2016 #24
Seriously, fuck them bravenak Aug 2016 #25
"We can disagree without being disagreeable" -- Barack Obama nt Gore1FL Aug 2016 #26
Not me. cheapdate Aug 2016 #27
. Capt. Obvious Aug 2016 #31
You're peddling fear - Fuck Fear demwing Aug 2016 #32
Wrong. GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #38
The Greens are dangerous totalitarians Expecting Rain Aug 2016 #37

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
1. And their defenders, apologists, trouble-makers, and shit-stirrers...
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 05:22 PM
Aug 2016

... they know who they are.

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Annie Wilkes, Green party member and Jill Stein supporter.
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Maru Kitteh

(28,342 posts)
4. So do you get the feeling the man doesnt really smell that good also?
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 05:52 PM
Aug 2016

I've just always had that impression, at least since 2000. He just looks like he smells bad, imo.

Maybe just me. I'm know I'm weird, lol.



grubbs

(356 posts)
5. Shhhh...
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 05:53 PM
Aug 2016

I got a warning for expressing how I really felt about these subversive skid marks. But I am good now. I shall no longer disparage Jillenstein even if I do it in the defense of Hillary or the Democratic Party , both of which I would take a bullet for.

Yeah. I am a little raw about that warning.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
8. I'll take a bullet for ya'-DT is an asshole Jill Stein is an asshole too.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 06:29 PM
Aug 2016

I haven't gotten one of those admin. messages in at least a couple of weeks.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
11. Appeal it.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 07:03 PM
Aug 2016

I got a hide for calling Jill Stein (G-Moron) a FUCKING FASCIST along with everybody who supports her.

That hide was overturned, so Skinner is fine with you calling Jill Stein (G-Moron) and everybody who supports her a FUCKING FASCIST!!!

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
6. All male Green supporters
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 05:56 PM
Aug 2016

use their campaign for "social justice" to make it easier for them to crush puss.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
9. Gore had more to do with his losing the 2000 election than Nadar did.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 06:34 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Mon Aug 8, 2016, 07:39 PM - Edit history (1)

As far as accusations of racism goes, it would be a TOS violation to point out how ironic that part of the op is.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2350557

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
12. No, he didn't. 100% the fault of FUCKING Ralph NAder and Green assholes!
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 07:04 PM
Aug 2016

And yeah, I consider Stein a FUCKING FASCIST AND RACIST!

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
19. I agree. We have NADER to thank for so much...
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:19 PM
Aug 2016

eight years of Bush, thousands of dead soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, millions of $$ lost in the great Bush recession, and on and on and on.

Fuck Nader with a fire extinguisher sideways and fuck the Greens too.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
20. Black box voting. Funny how we're all supposed to politely forget that...
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:35 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:24 PM - Edit history (2)

The stunning voting irregularities, the impossible tallies, the exit polls magically and ahistorically being so far off the mark.

Just blame the bogeyman du jour like we always do.

This site was FOUNDED on the outrage of the literal, criminal theft of the 2000 presidential election. But, to appeal to more mainstream sensibilities, all that was quietly swept under the rug. First into the sub-forums, and then away altogether.

Shhh, we don't talk about *that* anymore. Mustn't acknowledge the coup that occurred. Couldn't happen here, not in the US. Much like an open fascist running for president under a major party and actually having a shot at winning. Couldn't happen here, not in the US...

It will happen again. Because we politely pretend it didn't happen in 2000...
*Just not for Trump. He's bad for business. He's bad for everything.

Edit: Huh, double-post.

Edit2: Self-deleted the duplicate.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
22. BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:38 PM
Aug 2016

"Black Box Voting" is scam to separate people whose side lost from their money. Scam artist Bev Harris started it scamming liberals pissed off at Bush being handed the election by Nader and moved on to Wingnuts pissed off at a black man in the white house.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. However, we do in fact discuss BBV, in addition to other factors which ensured Gore's loss
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 02:11 PM
Aug 2016

"Shhh, we don't talk about *that* anymore. Mustn't acknowledge the coup that occurred..."

However, we do in fact discuss BBV (indeed, rather often), in addition to other factors which ensured Gore's loss as well. Speaking of X does not deny speaking Y.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
35. Take a look at the replies in this thread. Depressingly proves my point.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:13 PM
Aug 2016

Open mockery of BBV as the sole invention of one individual? THAT takes the cake... /smdh

progressoid

(49,992 posts)
28. 100% the fault of FUCKING Marcia Moorehead and the World Workers Party assholes.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 01:24 PM
Aug 2016

100% the fault of FUCKING butterfly ballots that gave thousands of Gore votes to Buchanon.

100% the fault of FUCKING 12% of Florida Democrats that voted for Bush in Florida.

100% the fault of FUCKING of Katherine Harris and purging thousands of eligible voters.

100% the fault of FUCKING Supreme Court.

100% the fault of FUCKING...



Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
13. Gore actually won that election, in both popular and electoral vote
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 07:19 PM
Aug 2016

It was Nader that made it possible for the Repukes to steal it from him. Without Nader, Gore's margin of victory would have been too great to contest. And we are still crawling out from the mess that followed. Thanks Nader and the Green Party!

Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #13)

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
17. Blame Gore
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 07:54 PM
Aug 2016

He ran a terrible campaign, losing his home state of TN. Losing Clinton's State of Arkansas. Only 50% of registered democrats in FL voted.

Gore presented himself as similar to Bush with a lock box.

Chakaconcarne

(2,460 posts)
18. Nothing like maintaining the status quo
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:17 PM
Aug 2016

Of a 2 party system......just not this election....or the next...right?

GaYellowDawg

(4,449 posts)
23. I don't consider any party other than the Democratic Party worth voting for.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 10:16 PM
Aug 2016

Until then, Greens? Fuck 'em. Libertarians? Fuck 'em. Republicans? Fuck 'em. And I don't give a goddamn if my party's competing against one other party or many. There's no evidence to suggest that a multi-party system works any better than two.

So do you support the Green Party? If so, why are you here? They are not friends, colleagues, or allies. They are competition. And since they are trying - as they always have - to legitimize themselves specifically at the expense of the Democratic Party, then fuck 'em.

Response to GaYellowDawg (Reply #23)

Response to Post removed (Reply #33)

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
30. The Greens aren't a party; it's a Stein vanity project
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 02:15 PM
Aug 2016

Get back to me about them as a party when they're actively winning state and local elections and building up a cohesive platform that doesn't involve flipflops from the head of it.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
27. Not me.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 01:04 AM
Aug 2016

There are good people with the Greens and good people with the Democrats.

There'll be 4 votes for the Democrats coming from the Cheapdate family, but I won't be joining in any hate-fest against my Green friends.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
32. You're peddling fear - Fuck Fear
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 02:30 PM
Aug 2016

"we ought to step on them. HARD. They wouldn't hesitate to step on us, given the opportunity."

Honestly, your fear mongering is more dangerous than any Green Party vote.

GaYellowDawg

(4,449 posts)
38. Wrong.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:22 PM
Aug 2016

That's not fear. That's a realistic assessment of an opponent who is trying to get a seat at the big table at our expense. What do Green Party ads push? They always go after the Democratic Party and they always try to establish a false equivalence between us and Republicans. There's no fear mongering in that observation. If you're getting all mad over that, then perhaps the grass is Greener in other pastures.

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